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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: invitro]
    #23494585 - 07/31/16 05:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Plexiglass?  I don't think the bond will hold.

From http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2261709
"The question of whether silicone adhesive can be used to secure acrylic baffles, overflows, etc. to glass comes up repeatedly. Most people with experience say no"

You want to use borosilicate glass here.  Excellent bonding and capable of taking heat stress.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: tump]
    #23494714 - 07/31/16 06:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok better plan for 55gallons of lc. This plan a little more theasable. First its going to take a dick year to colonies of myc for that big amount. So in the meant time bluid a stream sterilizer barrels and then buy grow bags. Run 30 gallons of cracked corn spawn a day for 30 days. Plus a barn to store these bags also for drying later. Once the lc is grown and stired with huge magnet stirer. Make a pressure needle to sprays 25 ml of lc per gallon bag. Let it colonies through out. Then plant them in your cow shit field. Later when you have the trouble drying. A few thoumd pound of shrooms use the barn you bluiding. Then invite all of us over to party for a week.




I love your thought patterns!


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: 7munkee]
    #23494898 - 07/31/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

this reminds me of when I was 14 and just found out you can clone marijuana plants.
I dreamt of cloning enough to fill the woods from start to end. of course its only dreaming, and plans made out from a complete lack of knowledge.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: spacechildo]
    #23494988 - 07/31/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This reminds me of the guy who make 100 or so BRF cakes following a "modified" recipe and stored them upsidedown covered in foil in an incubator.

Start small OP. "Big things" in this hobby are often synonmous with "bad things" I love filthyknees analogy about the cow farm.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: 7munkee]
    #23495001 - 07/31/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok better plan for 55gallons of lc. This plan a little more theasable. First its going to take a dick year to colonies of myc for that big amount. So in the meant time bluid a stream sterilizer barrels and then buy grow bags. Run 30 gallons of cracked corn spawn a day for 30 days. Plus a barn to store these bags also for drying later. Once the lc is grown and stired with huge magnet stirer. Make a pressure needle to sprays 25 ml of lc per gallon bag. Let it colonies through out. Then plant them in your cow shit field. Later when you have the trouble drying. A few thoumd pound of shrooms use the barn you bluiding. Then invite all of us over to party for a week.




I love your thought patterns!





I like how he uses words like "Theasable", "bluid", "stired", "stirer", "let it colonies", "thoumd" "bluiding".


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23495013 - 07/31/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yeah...

cow shit field :laugh2:

I wish i had one of those.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: invitro]
    #23495974 - 07/31/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Plexiglass?  I don't think the bond will hold.

From http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2261709
"The question of whether silicone adhesive can be used to secure acrylic baffles, overflows, etc. to glass comes up repeatedly. Most people with experience say no"

You want to use borosilicate glass here.  Excellent bonding and capable of taking heat stress.





The silicone will be used less as an adhesive than a gasket, which in hindsight I should have said RTV. That's is exactly what it is made for. The Plexiglas will have an interior frame on it to tighten fasteners compressing the gasket and conforming the plexiglas to the shape of the barrel. The heat tolerance is something I'll have to research more, I just need something that can hold up to temps of ~170.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23495981 - 07/31/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think people are drawing conclusions based on the number of posts I've made.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23495990 - 07/31/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think people are drawing conclusions based on the number of posts I've made.




I'm drawing conclusions based on the number of times this subject comes up and goes nowhere. If you are so sure it would work why not just go and do it instead of posting some hypothetical BS. You could be the first person to actually pull a result worthy of the effort involved :shrug:


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23495999 - 07/31/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Why did you switch to woodlovers?

Was that in response to Lemon's comment about them outcompeting contams?

If so why pasteurize the water at all, just use tap water and wait a bit for the
chlorine to gas off even that step might not even be necessary (depending on the concentration in your area).


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23496014 - 07/31/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I think people are drawing conclusions based on the number of posts I've made.




I'm drawing conclusions based on the number of times this subject comes up and goes nowhere. If you are so sure it would work why not just go and do it instead of posting some hypothetical BS. You could be the first person to actually pull a result worthy of the effort involved :shrug:




#1 Not referring to you.

#2 I'm sure it could work but I'm not sure how.That's why I'm hear  laying out my ideas to have them inspected and then constructively criticized.

#3 Nothing I've posted is hypothetical, it's all based on current, well established  methods just scaled up to industrial levels.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23496016 - 07/31/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

what do you guys really think is gonna happen if you spray 55 gallons lc on the forest bottom? whats it gonna colonize?
do you really think 55gallons lc sprayed out will yield more than say 20-30 myc hearts spread out?


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: invitro]
    #23496020 - 07/31/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I believe he was saying pan cincts which is a grass lover. Why anyone would intentionally look to grow a whole bunch of em is beyond me. Sure indoors for the challenge is one thing. But a weak ass pan that is more of a weed than cubes? Definitely not my go too.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: spacechildo]
    #23496023 - 07/31/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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what do you guys really think is gonna happen if you spray 55 gallons lc on the forest bottom? whats it gonna colonize?
do you really think 55gallons lc sprayed out will yield more than say 20-30 myc hearts spread out?




Exactly. He is killing flies with sledgehammers.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: invitro]
    #23496024 - 07/31/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The woods are far more plentiful than bovine and equine pastures. Then I can spray the woods in towns or cities. I can collect fruit more discretely as well as spread the seeds incognito.

The water for the LC?


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: invitro]
    #23496025 - 07/31/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Plexiglass is brittle.  If your pushing it against the rtv.... with some kind of internal frame, you
risk cracking the plexiglass.  The stuff is like peanut-brittle, ok not that weak but close, you can
easily snap it in half with your hands. 

I'm not sure what your hoping to see through the plexiglass anyway,
just some random whisps of mycelium that you don't know if they are mushrooms or not, likely moving way too
fast to be able to inspect in the first place.  You could just take a sample as you go and inoculate and watch for
recovery, much simpler.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23496028 - 07/31/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I believe he was saying pan cincts which is a grass lover. Why anyone would intentionally look to grow a whole bunch of em is beyond me. Sure indoors for the challenge is one thing. But a weak ass pan that is more of a weed than cubes? Definitely not my go too.





What would be your go to? Need USDA zone 3 hardiness.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23496033 - 07/31/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The USDA zones don't really help with fungus :shrug:
But I'd guess you could grow ovoids outdoors. Do much better making a stem butt slurry than a 55gallon LC though.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23496038 - 07/31/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Dude just make a damn patch in the woods. Something like 2 dozen quarts of cube spawn and a bale of straw with some manure or coir or a mix. Dig a hole, mix it all up, cover with a tarp and keep it watered. Come back in a month and pull a few pounds.

Or even easier, get a woodlover native to your climate, soak some cardboard and get some stem butts. Let em colonize then mix a patch up in the woods with the cardboard and chips or something. You don't even need to sterilize shit. Or a slurry is even easier. Just blend the fruits up and go.

Outside growing for people with the climate is the simplest thing imaginable. Your giant LC is a completely unnecessary step that won't work nearly as well in the end.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: invitro]
    #23496041 - 07/31/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Plexiglass is brittle.  If your pushing it against the rtv.... with some kind of internal frame, you
risk cracking the plexiglass.  The stuff is like peanut-brittle, ok not that weak but close, you can
easily snap it in half with your hands.




I've worked with Plexiglas before making wind screens for my motorcycles. I own a heat gun and will soften before molding it. 

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I'm not sure what your hoping to see through the plexiglass anyway,
just some random whisps of mycelium that you don't know if they are mushrooms or not, likely moving way too
fast to be able to inspect in the first place.  You could just take a sample as you go and inoculate and watch for
recovery, much simpler.




I like this idea, I'll have to look into some sort of chamber/dipstick. These vintners have some pretty cool stuff.


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