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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23493901 - 07/30/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If the point of the project is to grow mushrooms you are taking the absolute most difficult path. . .

So what species are you growing in the woods since you moved out of the pasture? If the answer is a woodlover you should have a look at the stuff people have done on that front. You don't need 55 gallons of LC. You need some stem butts and cardboard.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23493905 - 07/30/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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delivery of the LC to your substrate will require creative modification of some basic farm equipment.




I'm thinking a battery powered backpack sprayer, concealed in a large camping pack when needed, would be best.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23493912 - 07/30/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Talk about reinventing the wheel. Good luck man. I won't expect an update because out of the hundreds of people who have made this exact same thread over the years the number of those who came back with results is precisely 0.

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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493917 - 07/30/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not worried about the difficulty at all. That is part of the draw, like mountain climbing. I guess I could make a slurry to spray, but that would require growing mushrooms. I would like to do a tissue LC rather than a MS LC. It seems that Panaeolus Cinctulus would be my best bet, any thoughts on this choice?
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Talk about reinventing the wheel. Good luck man. I won't expect an update because out of the hundreds of people who have made this exact same thread over the years the number of those who came back with results is precisely 0.

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Do you have any links to people that did this exact same thing? Links or it didn't happen.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23493920 - 07/30/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

With woodies it would be a while before I saw results anyways.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23494027 - 07/30/16 10:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Trust me. There have been 100s of similar threads where people have this great idea and want to try it then get destroyed on here. Then the op freaks out and cusses everyone. They cuss back. My advise is solid. Look at what small mushroom farmer are doing with edibles. Bluid everything they bluid and do what they do. If its just for opening your mind start with simple two pressure cookers running once a day with 14 qts of grains your choice. Make lots of lc in jars thwn knonk up the same. Make a mono tub or two a day and in no time you be tripping on 8grams a day. Until you rob a bank high as hell then feds raid you


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23494107 - 07/30/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Why not put spores in the cow's drinking water?




This is the only way that has a chance.

The reason fungal dungloving spores need to be consumed by the bovines is because outdoors they occupy a niche environment. Spraying substrate already colonized by bacteria and other fungi mean the food source is already captured and is no longer available. Go ahead and waste your time if you want. But it's a waste of time.




Wrong.

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Well then maybe I've had my fill.
I know that silicone is very strong. They build massive aquariums out of it. But op is not an engineer and should pay me to consult





The silicone would be between the Plexiglas and the wall of the barrel. The Plexiglas would be mounted on the INSIDE of the barrel and the pressure of the fluid would sandwich the silicone. Perhaps I should come by and you help you out. No charges, just expenses. The results will be the pudding.
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perhaps you should do a little more research. If you knew what you were doing, a gallon of LC would take you very far. Ever hear of overkill? Or maybe too much effort for too little return?

Get a PC, learn about agar, do things right… $$$$ profit.




Read the entire thread, assumptions and an opinion to to end your comment. Not in it for the money.

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Bragging rights. Why do people put a V8 engine on a motorcycle frame?




For people that like to expand their minds there are certainly a lot of people with narrow horizons. Is this a shroom forum or fucking catholic school? The dogma is suffocating.

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On that level of LC you would need to start a gallon of VERY GOOD and thick LC from normal methods and materials. Do this first using any one of several TEKs

For LC on this scale, sterilization isn't what you would want, what you's want would be very good pasteurization to kill fungi, but leave some bacteria in it, otherwise it will contaminate for sure. The bacterial make antibiotic chemicals that help fend off mold, but won't harm healthy mushroom myc.

For your bulk LC you would probably want to add boiling water to several quart size jars worth of previously PC'd grains and a couple pounds of black-strap molasses.

Add everything together in the drum and install a few large capacity fish tank or DWC hydro aerators with HEPA filters on the intake to your drum along with some sort of heavy duty mechanical stirring device.

You could probably insulate the drum with fiberglass and heat directly using a hot-water heater element to at least 165 deg F, better to go all the way to 212 and hold for an hour or better though.

Do not activate the aerators until the drum has cooled to about 70 degrees F. When at 70 degF, add your gallon of LC and start the aeration with the mixer operating for 15 to 20 minutes twice a day on a timer. This should work in theory, but delivery of the LC to your substrate will require creative modification of some basic farm equipment.

Most important parts would be the master LC quality, pasturizing the bulk LC matrix, and aereation/mixing.

Good luck!




Good ideas, got my juices flowing again. Nice to see someone else with a creative mind helping a brother out. I bet I could rig up one of these babies, Barrel Mixer , instead of the pvc and just hook up a drill to it. I had the same idea for FAE.



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This is a great troll thread. I'm not a troll, but I can dig it.
I reread the op and saw you said, "sealed with silicone."  My apologies.
This is actually a feasible project, but you can't nigger rig it.
Start off making an lc in something like an eberbach container.  Then make a few hundred more.
Next build a larger container, and a large autoclave to sterilize this larger container.
After complete success, build an autoclave large enough to lower a milk truck trailer, stainless steel with agitaters in it. Obviously,  some serious disassembling will be required to sterilize such a thing.
Craftiness comes into play with a small opening in the massive autoclave so you can put several hundred agar dishes in a small opening in the milk tank.
After inoculation, remove the tank and turn it back into a trailer.
Let the lc do it's thing. Agitate it and pump that shit out of a fireman's hose.
Would definitely work, especially with oyster mushrooms. But I'd guess off the top of my head, it'd be at least a $200,000 project, initially.  And that's if you build everything yourself.  After all of the equipment is built, you could probably clean up land fills and kill patches of kudzu.
I'm crafty and can build anything. And I am very experienced in liquid inoculations. So if you're wealthy, shoot me a pm. If you've got the money, I've got the time.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: azur]
    #23494117 - 07/30/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone other than you saying that azur, and I would :facepalm:


But I believe you could do it.



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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23494196 - 07/31/16 12:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ha ha. It could really work, and work well. I can't say I haven't dreamed of a tanker load of LC. But the initial start up costs would be astronomical. I think you could profit considerably in a short time though.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: azur]
    #23494212 - 07/31/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Mycologist217]
    #23494214 - 07/31/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:haha:
I just want to team up with op :shrug:


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: azur]
    #23494240 - 07/31/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Ha ha. It could really work, and work well. I can't say I haven't dreamed of a tanker load of LC. But the initial start up costs would be astronomical. I think you could profit considerably in a short time though.




To what end? For actives it would be horribly inefficient. I could pull more weight with a couple quarts of LC and controlled conditons. For gourmet it would be hugely inconsistent. Might have some real benefit for bio remediation but I doubt that's the OPs angle.

No the original post smacks of a drunken idea called out. He went from cubes in a pasture to pan cincts in the forest. It's just a load of gibberish. I guess I give more credit to those who do and then post.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23494254 - 07/31/16 12:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well indeed. And like I said, it's a troll post.

But, for  bio remediation I think it holds a lot of promise. Unfortunately, my asshole isn't currently leaking money, so I won't be doing this any time soon.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: azur]
    #23494328 - 07/31/16 01:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

"Why do people put a V8 engine on a motorcycle frame?" That sums up my ambitions to a T. It's not about efficiency, Sunday driving, this is all about balls to the wall ridiculous, mad scientist, techniques. Really though more shroomites should get into spreading LC all over the place. In parks, their yards, public forests, name it, anywhere they can grow. The cost wouldn't be much, less than a new gaming rig.

$99 - 55 gallon steel drum
$2.65 - case of 6 1/2 gallon jars
$14.29 - pressure cook gauge
$15.99 - pressure cook weight
$89.99 - drill barrel stirrer (from vintner shop)
$150 - various plumbing fittings for adapting task holes
$15.28 - Plexiglas
$6.24 - silicone
$30 - various fasteners, rivets, hose clamps etc.
$159.99 - ON SALE!!! li-ion powered backpack sprayer
$79 - 60L camping pack
$27.61 - 5 gallons light corn syrup

Total-$690.04


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23494331 - 07/31/16 01:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You've seen it here first...:facepalm:


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: azur]
    #23494354 - 07/31/16 01:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

OP, this thread has the answers that you seek:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22861379


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23494399 - 07/31/16 02:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I already addressed your opinion on this undertaking. This conversation is very redundant. I understand you're doing your part as a hand holder but you're also holding people down with those types of threads. A grumpy old man, jaded by experience.

What about wrapping the barrel in a copper coil, insulating, and pumping hot water from a fire around the barrel, like an alcohol still? Turning the barrel into a giant pressure cooker.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23494403 - 07/31/16 02:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Do you not agree, however far fetched, that people seeding woodlands everywhere would be fucking awesome? I think once I get the kinks worked out I'll start one of those fill a bucket farms, like they have strawberries, apples or Christmas trees.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23494490 - 07/31/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Do you not agree, however far fetched, that people seeding woodlands everywhere would be fucking awesome?




Umm..... You do know that people already do this, right?

Your "plan" would be more fruitful if you stuck to the basics. 55gallons of LC is stupid, a few quarts will do. Even better would be using grain spawn but by all means, don't let us "hold you down", experience it all for yourself. And please, do post your results, that would be a first for a thread such as this.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23494576 - 07/31/16 05:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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If you use the 55g drum LC there's no way it's going to work for anything but spraying on straw and making outdoor beds.




Have you or anyone you know ever gotten this to work on straw?  I would have wagered it would not work on straw.
I would love to be proven wrong.

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