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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Urmomma] * 1
    #23492942 - 07/30/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Why not put spores in the cow's drinking water?




This is the only way that has a chance.

The reason fungal dungloving spores need to be consumed by the bovines is because outdoors they occupy a niche environment. Spraying substrate already colonized by bacteria and other fungi mean the food source is already captured and is no longer available. Go ahead and waste your time if you want. But it's a waste of time.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493021 - 07/30/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh my god. So this is what I've been missi. Hahahahahahahaha.
OP, do you really think silicone is going to hold the pressure of 440 lbs of lc???
Sounds like you live in fl. If so, send me a pm and I'll come down there and you can pay me an astronomical consulting fee. And I guarantee if you follow my advice, you can grow a few thousand pounds. But my time and knowledge is not cheap. Let me know


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: azur]
    #23493029 - 07/30/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

this how we eat man! :vato:


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: spacechildo]
    #23493037 - 07/30/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well then maybe I've had my fill.
I know that silicone is very strong. They build massive aquariums out of it. But op is not an engineer and should pay me to consult


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: azur]
    #23493064 - 07/30/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Perhaps big gyms or Panaeolus Subbalteatus.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23493133 - 07/30/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

perhaps you should do a little more research. If you knew what you were doing, a gallon of LC would take you very far. Ever hear of overkill? Or maybe too much effort for too little return?

Get a PC, learn about agar, do things right… $$$$ profit.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: dankington]
    #23493179 - 07/30/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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perhaps you should do a little more research. If you knew what you were doing, a gallon of LC would take you very far. Ever hear of overkill? Or maybe too much effort for too little return?

Get a PC, learn about agar, do things right… $$$$ profit. And call Azur for consulting!




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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: azur]
    #23493222 - 07/30/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid: if I could afford to hire the bastard, and had the means to start a farm, I wouldn't think twice.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: dankington]
    #23493232 - 07/30/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup: +1 for hiring Azur


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: dankington]
    #23493312 - 07/30/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

On that level of LC you would need to start a gallon of VERY GOOD and thick LC from normal methods and materials. Do this first using any one of several TEKs

For LC on this scale, sterilization isn't what you would want, what you's want would be very good pasteurization to kill fungi, but leave some bacteria in it, otherwise it will contaminate for sure. The bacterial make antibiotic chemicals that help fend off mold, but won't harm healthy mushroom myc.

For your bulk LC you would probably want to add boiling water to several quart size jars worth of previously PC'd grains and a couple pounds of black-strap molasses.

Add everything together in the drum and install a few large capacity fish tank or DWC hydro aerators with HEPA filters on the intake to your drum along with some sort of heavy duty mechanical stirring device.

You could probably insulate the drum with fiberglass and heat directly using a hot-water heater element to at least 165 deg F, better to go all the way to 212 and hold for an hour or better though.

Do not activate the aerators until the drum has cooled to about 70 degrees F. When at 70 degF, add your gallon of LC and start the aeration with the mixer operating for 15 to 20 minutes twice a day on a timer. This should work in theory, but delivery of the LC to your substrate will require creative modification of some basic farm equipment.

Most important parts would be the master LC quality, pasturizing the bulk LC matrix, and aereation/mixing.

Good luck!


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23493355 - 07/30/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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On that level of LC you would need to start a gallon of VERY GOOD and thick LC from normal methods and materials. Do this first using any one of several TEKs

For LC on this scale, sterilization isn't what you would want, what you's want would be very good pasteurization to kill fungi, but leave some bacteria in it, otherwise it will contaminate for sure. The bacterial make antibiotic chemicals that help fend off mold, but won't harm healthy mushroom myc.

For your bulk LC you would probably want to add boiling water to several quart size jars worth of previously PC'd grains and a couple pounds of black-strap molasses.

Add everything together in the drum and install a few large capacity fish tank or DWC hydro aerators with HEPA filters on the intake to your drum along with some sort of heavy duty mechanical stirring device.

You could probably insulate the drum with fiberglass and heat directly using a hot-water heater element to at least 165 deg F, better to go all the way to 212 and hold for an hour or better though.

Do not activate the aerators until the drum has cooled to about 70 degrees F. When at 70 degF, add your gallon of LC and start the aeration with the mixer operating for 15 to 20 minutes twice a day on a timer. This should work in theory, but delivery of the LC to your substrate will require creative modification of some basic farm equipment.

Most important parts would be the master LC quality, pasturizing the bulk LC matrix, and aereation/mixing.

Good luck!




Why would you suggest that much work and effort for something that would be a waste of time? Shit why not tell him to get a crop duster or a water bomber as well? At least that way he could colonize the LC with a woodlover and have a prayer at this working on some level.

The OP of this thread is starting to smell like troll bait.

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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23493571 - 07/30/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

Urmomma said:
Why not put spores in the cow's drinking water?




This is the only way that has a chance.

The reason fungal dungloving spores need to be consumed by the bovines is because outdoors they occupy a niche environment. Spraying substrate already colonized by bacteria and other fungi mean the food source is already captured and is no longer available. Go ahead and waste your time if you want. But it's a waste of time.




Wrong.

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Well then maybe I've had my fill.
I know that silicone is very strong. They build massive aquariums out of it. But op is not an engineer and should pay me to consult





The silicone would be between the Plexiglas and the wall of the barrel. The Plexiglas would be mounted on the INSIDE of the barrel and the pressure of the fluid would sandwich the silicone. Perhaps I should come by and you help you out. No charges, just expenses. The results will be the pudding.
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dankington said:
perhaps you should do a little more research. If you knew what you were doing, a gallon of LC would take you very far. Ever hear of overkill? Or maybe too much effort for too little return?

Get a PC, learn about agar, do things right… $$$$ profit.




Read the entire thread, assumptions and an opinion to to end your comment. Not in it for the money.

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Bragging rights. Why do people put a V8 engine on a motorcycle frame?




For people that like to expand their minds there are certainly a lot of people with narrow horizons. Is this a shroom forum or fucking catholic school? The dogma is suffocating.

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Eywa_devotee said:
On that level of LC you would need to start a gallon of VERY GOOD and thick LC from normal methods and materials. Do this first using any one of several TEKs

For LC on this scale, sterilization isn't what you would want, what you's want would be very good pasteurization to kill fungi, but leave some bacteria in it, otherwise it will contaminate for sure. The bacterial make antibiotic chemicals that help fend off mold, but won't harm healthy mushroom myc.

For your bulk LC you would probably want to add boiling water to several quart size jars worth of previously PC'd grains and a couple pounds of black-strap molasses.

Add everything together in the drum and install a few large capacity fish tank or DWC hydro aerators with HEPA filters on the intake to your drum along with some sort of heavy duty mechanical stirring device.

You could probably insulate the drum with fiberglass and heat directly using a hot-water heater element to at least 165 deg F, better to go all the way to 212 and hold for an hour or better though.

Do not activate the aerators until the drum has cooled to about 70 degrees F. When at 70 degF, add your gallon of LC and start the aeration with the mixer operating for 15 to 20 minutes twice a day on a timer. This should work in theory, but delivery of the LC to your substrate will require creative modification of some basic farm equipment.

Most important parts would be the master LC quality, pasturizing the bulk LC matrix, and aereation/mixing.

Good luck!




Good ideas, got my juices flowing again. Nice to see someone else with a creative mind helping a brother out. I bet I could rig up one of these babies, Barrel Mixer , instead of the pvc and just hook up a drill to it. I had the same idea for FAE.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23493585 - 07/30/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I read the whole thread, the punchline just flew well over your head.
But yeah. Good luck with that.

:failboat:

As I said, if you were a competent grower, 1 gallon of LC could really take you places. Especially if you learned to expand it cleanly. It'd be so much better than say, putting all your eggs in one basket >> losing all your stupid eggs.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: dankington]
    #23493651 - 07/30/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, obviously I'm the one not getting it...


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23493667 - 07/30/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What is hard about putting spores in the water as nature intended? You think mycelium is going to want to leap off with nearly no stored energy to a food source low in nutrients? You might see a bit of fruit. Not nearly enough for the effort you are making.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23493683 - 07/30/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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For people that like to expand their minds there are certainly a lot of people with narrow horizons. Is this a shroom forum or fucking catholic school? The dogma is suffocating.






I wish I could punch every motherfucker who said this.  I suppose you expect us all to be peaceful spaced out hippies but we're people who live by and appreciate good results and good effort.  You're not unique by making this stellar non-observation.  When you realize you're the one that's against the grain, perhaps the "dogmatic" approach as you put it, will make a bit more sense.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: MykoMykoAnay]
    #23493724 - 07/30/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

apparently
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I have a 55 gallon steel drum and I need some outside opinions on my logic...
I'll be adding an injection port just like on a little jar and will be pumping a Qt jar of LC in to the barrel using a 100 ml syringe. 2.75 gallons of Karo will be used with 50 gallons of mineral water. Before I add these two together I would set the barrel on something, haven't figured this out yet, perhaps at least a foot off the ground. Then build a fire around the barrel and boil the mixture for at least an hour. Not sure how to protect the Plexiglas either. After cooling for 24 hrs I'd move the barrel back into my garage and knock it up. Monitored with the windows installed and then when the day comes hook it up to the PTO sprayer on the tractor and spread my seed.

Any flaws?



I don't mean to rain on your parade or nuthin', but you'd be better off expanding that quart of LC into other quarts of LC.

On second thought, you're really better off hiring azur at this point.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23493885 - 07/30/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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MykoMykoAnay said:
For people that like to expand their minds there are certainly a lot of people with narrow horizons. Is this a shroom forum or fucking catholic school? The dogma is suffocating.






I wish I could punch every motherfucker who said this.  I suppose you expect us all to be peaceful spaced out hippies but we're people who live by and appreciate good results and good effort.  You're not unique by making this stellar non-observation.  When you realize you're the one that's against the grain, perhaps the "dogmatic" approach as you put it, will make a bit more sense.




You're right, dogma was way off, Nazi is a better descriptor.

"I'm just a hard working shroom farmer that don't want no body trying to change the way we do things around here. Long haired hippy freak, with your big ideas and dreams, trying to come in here and start trouble in our peaceful little community of fascists." Sound familiar, glad to see you have your good ol' boy posse with you. Wake up, hylic.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: dankington]
    #23493890 - 07/30/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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apparently
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I have a 55 gallon steel drum and I need some outside opinions on my logic...
I'll be adding an injection port just like on a little jar and will be pumping a Qt jar of LC in to the barrel using a 100 ml syringe. 2.75 gallons of Karo will be used with 50 gallons of mineral water. Before I add these two together I would set the barrel on something, haven't figured this out yet, perhaps at least a foot off the ground. Then build a fire around the barrel and boil the mixture for at least an hour. Not sure how to protect the Plexiglas either. After cooling for 24 hrs I'd move the barrel back into my garage and knock it up. Monitored with the windows installed and then when the day comes hook it up to the PTO sprayer on the tractor and spread my seed.

Any flaws?



I don't mean to rain on your parade or nuthin', but you'd be better off expanding that quart of LC into other quarts of LC.

On second thought, you're really better off hiring azur at this point.




Dude, you really, reeeally don't get the point of this project.


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Re: 55 gallons of LC [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23493897 - 07/30/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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What is hard about putting spores in the water as nature intended? You think mycelium is going to want to leap off with nearly no stored energy to a food source low in nutrients? You might see a bit of fruit. Not nearly enough for the effort you are making.





I think you missed that part where I moved on from the pasture and think doing it in the woods would be better. Partially based on some points you made in previous posts.


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