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Big BRF Cake
    #23489494 - 07/29/16 02:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So over the duration of my first grow (14 cakes, plus what you see in the photos below), I used 1/2 pint brf cakes.  I wanted to see how well a larger cake would do, so I inoculated a 5 pint container.  In order to reduce colonization time, I inoculated the center of the container as well. 

Here are the results so far:



55 grams wet:

edit: The other cake you see in the background is not a 1/2 pint, it was made in a bourbon glass (larger than 1/2 pint).

Interestingly enough, I did not use a pressure cooker to sterilize any of my jars, even the big one.  Had zero issues with contamination.   


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489500 - 07/29/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I am highly offended that I was tricked into clicking on an offsite link when I thought I would be zooming.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Inocuole]
    #23489503 - 07/29/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I am highly offended that I was tricked into clicking on an offsite link when I thought I would be zooming.





Someone is testy today.

I'm trying to change that.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Inocuole]
    #23489506 - 07/29/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489511 - 07/29/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Can't see the big pics, just the thumbnails, due to the site being blocked by the firewall. Looks really nice though, congrats! Wonder if those little guys are going to be super potent, you could probably pull some nice spores out of the one in your hand, too.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23489514 - 07/29/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks.  I fixed the photos.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23489521 - 07/29/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Thanks.  I fixed the photos.



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Can't see the big pics, just the thumbnails, due to the site being blocked by the firewall. Looks really nice though, congrats! Wonder if those little guys are going to be super potent, you could probably pull some nice spores out of the one in your hand, too.




I'm not experienced enough to try to make spore prints.  I'm gonna chill out for a bit on cultivation for the foreseeable future after this cake is spent, I've gone through 14 cakes already.  My only interest in growing is to micro dose. 

The picture is my hand is deceiving because I have huge hands (I'm 6'4'').


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489525 - 07/29/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

All you do is take a Cap cut the stem off and put it on some foil


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23489539 - 07/29/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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All you do is take a Cap cut the stem off and put it on some foil




I must have read a different tek, or I'm confused. 

I used a spore syringe from one of the sponsors, and it was very interesting to see the size and appearance variations that were produced.  The photos above are by far the biggest shrooms that have grown.  My second largest was 18 grams (wet) from one of the 1/2 pint cakes.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23489540 - 07/29/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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All you do is take a Cap cut the stem off and put it on some foil




And even if you take a break, the spore prints will probably still be good when you start again :thumbup:


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23489545 - 07/29/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



I still have half a syringe left :wink:.



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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489566 - 07/29/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quick question about dosing:

I haven't used any of my yield yet (have over 2 dry OZ).

I know that with MS syringe the potency of each shroom can vary.  Should I grind them all up in order to homogenize, then weigh out my doses?

I've dried them all in a food dehydrator set at 160 degrees F.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489571 - 07/29/16 03:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Best to homogeneously mix them yes


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23489609 - 07/29/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Best not to grind your whole stash at once though....


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Inocuole]
    #23489615 - 07/29/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Best not to grind your whole stash at once though....




Why is that?  I store them in a dark and temperature stable environment, within an airtight container.

Is your reasoning that grinding increases exposed surface area of the shrooms, accelerating potential degradation of the "good" compounds via light and/or air?


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489626 - 07/29/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone who has ever ground up more than a half ounce and left some for later has found out the hard way I'm sure.  I'm not up to bothering to think about the exact reason, I'm sure it has to do with surface area and exposure but experience tells me that the potency declines pretty quickly once ground.  Probably about ~50% potency loss in 1-2 months.  If your powder for any reason becomes slightly hydrated there will also be no way to re-dry it, which is another great reason to store whole and only grind before dosing, if your method of dosing does in fact require grinding.  I kinda smash mine up but making powder has never done me any good.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Inocuole]
    #23489630 - 07/29/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyone who has ever ground up more than a half ounce and left some for later has found out the hard way I'm sure.  I'm not up to bothering to think about the exact reason, I'm sure it has to do with surface area and exposure but experience tells me that the potency declines pretty quickly once ground.  Probably about ~50% potency loss in 1-2 months.  If your powder for any reason becomes slightly hydrated there will also be no way to re-dry it, which is another great reason to store whole and only grind before dosing, if your method of dosing does in fact require grinding.  I kinda smash mine up but making powder has never done me any good.




Thanks for the tip.  I did not think of that.  I will make sure to not grind them all up at once.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489644 - 07/29/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If I grind it goes into gel caps or tea right away. Gel caps kind of suck. Tea is great


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23489732 - 07/29/16 03:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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If I grind it goes into gel caps or tea right away. Gel caps kind of suck. Tea is great



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If I grind it goes into gel caps or tea right away. Gel caps kind of suck. Tea is great




Planning on weighing out powder each time I want to dose.  Too lazy to put into individual capsules.

Not sure how you would put ground up shrooms into gel caps? Are you injecting the ground up material into gel caps filled with DI water or something?

Edit:  This forum's user interface needs to be updated :wink:


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489755 - 07/29/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This forums user interface will never be updated.  Learn it, it's not hard.

Further, gelatin caps are not... liqui-gels or whatever you're thinking of.  You know... two halves of a capsule, that you stuff powder in and put together, like tons of supplements come in?


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Inocuole]
    #23489766 - 07/29/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Look up cap machines for 00 caps. You'll see how it works


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489769 - 07/29/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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If I grind it goes into gel caps or tea right away. Gel caps kind of suck. Tea is great



Quote:

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If I grind it goes into gel caps or tea right away. Gel caps kind of suck. Tea is great




Planning on weighing out powder each time I want to dose.  Too lazy to put into individual capsules.

Not sure how you would put ground up shrooms into gel caps? Are you injecting the ground up material into gel caps filled with DI water or something?

Edit:  This forum's user interface needs to be updated :wink:





They're no longer carried on amazon apparently, but a manual capsule filling machine is used to fill gel caps, i think. They are used for innocuous purposes more than illicit, not sure why they'd take them down like they did but who knows.

The site has been around for something like two decades, in the website feedback forum an admin recently was asked about this and answered that they're in the process of redoing everything and it will be done "soon". not sure if it's going to in terms of months or over a year, but they're working on it. :super:

Also, next time don't grind everything up at once. Keep them whole and dry, once they're cracker dry, throw em in a jar and close it tightly. From what is out there, it's believed they'll retain their potency for years, if not more.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Inocuole]
    #23489774 - 07/29/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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This forums user interface will never be updated.  Learn it, it's not hard.

Further, gelatin caps are not... liqui-gels or whatever you're thinking of.  You know... two halves of a capsule, that you stuff powder in and put together, like tons of supplements come in?




Whether it's easy to learn or not is irrelevant, it is very dated, which may put off potential members.


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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: Silverspork]
    #23489782 - 07/29/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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This forums user interface will never be updated.  Learn it, it's not hard.

Further, gelatin caps are not... liqui-gels or whatever you're thinking of.  You know... two halves of a capsule, that you stuff powder in and put together, like tons of supplements come in?




Whether it's easy to learn or not is irrelevant, it is very dated, which may put off potential members.




That's fine. The userbase is massive and extremely rich in knowledge as it is. If a user cbf to learn a free site in order to contribute and learn from it, so be it.

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Re: Big BRF Cake [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23489786 - 07/29/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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If I grind it goes into gel caps or tea right away. Gel caps kind of suck. Tea is great



Quote:

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If I grind it goes into gel caps or tea right away. Gel caps kind of suck. Tea is great




Planning on weighing out powder each time I want to dose.  Too lazy to put into individual capsules.

Not sure how you would put ground up shrooms into gel caps? Are you injecting the ground up material into gel caps filled with DI water or something?

Edit:  This forum's user interface needs to be updated :wink:





They're no longer carried on amazon apparently, but a manual capsule filling machine is used to fill gel caps, i think. They are used for innocuous purposes more than illicit, not sure why they'd take them down like they did but who knows.

The site has been around for something like two decades, in the website feedback forum an admin recently was asked about this and answered that they're in the process of redoing everything and it will be done "soon". not sure if it's going to in terms of months or over a year, but they're working on it. :super:

Also, next time don't grind everything up at once. Keep them whole and dry, once they're cracker dry, throw em in a jar and close it tightly. From what is out there, it's believed they'll retain their potency for years, if not more.




I have a bunch of spent ZMA capsules that I was going to use. 

I haven't ground anything up yet man :smile:.  They are all dehydrated and sitting pretty in a container.


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    #23489851 - 07/29/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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That's fine. The userbase is massive and extremely rich in knowledge as it is. If a user cbf to learn a free site in order to contribute and learn from it, so be it.

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    #23489858 - 07/29/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

For how big craft beer is forums like pro-brewer suck dick compared to this place


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