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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23489688 - 07/29/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The title might as well be should it be legal to murder children, and the answer should be no.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: stzacrack]
    #23489690 - 07/29/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Crystal G hates all men dont take it personally


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23489711 - 07/29/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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hex_enduction said:
Can't help but answer "no". I don't think anyone is completely irredeemable at age 7, and call me old fashioned but I have ideological qualms with killing people.

I definitely understand where you're coming from, though.




Same, but I put "yes". Children have it too easy :morningtoke:




Yea of course you would, perhaps all they wanted was a sex change, correct?


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Patlal]
    #23489757 - 07/29/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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It is illegal to diagnose any children under 18 as a psychopath as per the DSM



Off topic but a previous edition of the DSM (maybe III) diagnosed strongly Christian people as mentally ill. I was quite amused. Then an increasing number of members of the American Psychological Association became Christians, so they took that out. Maybe the ASA is just a popularity contest.

    AS far as Crystal's original thesis it sounds inhumane yet rather pragmatic. I would not put down retarded children who were not overly violent, but I personally am too selfish to raise one. When it comes to very violent children, this is a good question, but not likely to happen in Christian 'Merica.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: stzacrack]
    #23490272 - 07/29/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm a Russian male

I'm offended by that statement

You're a cheap Chinese female whore, does that sound about right to you?




Calling me Chinese is about as accurate as calling you a Pole.

Also, sorry, but, Russian men have a stereotype of being violent and crazy. :shrug:


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23490276 - 07/29/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
i used to be a pos when i was like 11-14 nd i turned out ok

i wasnt poking out the eyes of animals tho so idk




Makes me glad I voted yes


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23490439 - 07/29/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:nojustno:

Cant believe im hearing this shit.

Even if we could detect with 100% certainty psychopathic tendencies, AND could prove that would lead 100% to criminal activity in the future, putting psycho kids to death would reduce our ability to learn about, and possibly rehab those with, the disease.

Itd be like the nazis gassing the jews without doing medical tests on them first. Totally immoral.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23490443 - 07/29/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
i used to be a pos when i was like 11-14 nd i turned out ok

i wasnt poking out the eyes of animals tho so idk




Makes me glad I voted yes




:somefunnyshit:


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23490468 - 07/29/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Has anybody ever been locked up in a psych ward before? It's horrible. You're surrounded by depressed or crazy people who talk nonsense, nurses hold power to strap you down and inject you with drugs against your will, you are not able to go outside ever, you never see the sunlight...




This is absolutely true, these places are ghoulish.  They are run by sociopaths who care nothing for the true welfare
of the individual, there may be some exceptions to the rule but...  IME they care enough to keep you alive and to keep up appearances but that's it.  They will prescribe powerful and lasting psych meds that turn you into a zombie, they will label you crazy on a whim, and get paid huge amounts to keep you there forever. 

I have extensive first hand knowledge of how the minds of these people operate, my family was in the business. 

One hospital got shut down because of nurses beating drugged patients when they thought noone was looking, just for fun. 

You have no rights there, you're like a piece of meat.  Who is going to believe anything you say, your crazy after
all remember? 

If the state is paying $500 a day to keep you there what incentive is there for them to let you go?

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But getting back the main point of the thread, I've seen a couple of kids like what the OP is describing,
they don't seem to get better by themselves, in fact they seem to spiral ever downward.  Few if any know how to truly
help these people and they do need help.  I don't know what the answer is but they can end up being a terribly violent
menace to society.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: invitro]
    #23490498 - 07/29/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

We need to talk about kevin


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23490648 - 07/29/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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How about instead we put irresponsible parents down :strokebeard:




Fuck yeah!!!


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Anahata]
    #23490651 - 07/29/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Or at least sterilize them. We can start with the longterm welfare population and go from there.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23490664 - 07/29/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They should not be put down.  They are innocent until they murder or whatever, and then they can go to jail and/or receive the death penalty.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: California]
    #23490725 - 07/29/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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They should not be put down.  They are innocent until they murder or whatever, and then they can go to jail and/or receive the death penalty.




What about a guy who says he won't change his tires until they actually blow, no matter how much rubber is gone and the
threads are showing.  What if he blows a tire, veers into oncoming traffic kills a few people, then changes his tires?


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: invitro]
    #23490731 - 07/29/16 10:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

But killing people is kind of messy, and requires a lot of energy. Would you wanna be that guy?


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: invitro]
    #23491006 - 07/30/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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California said:
They should not be put down.  They are innocent until they murder or whatever, and then they can go to jail and/or receive the death penalty.




What about a guy who says he won't change his tires until they actually blow, no matter how much rubber is gone and the
threads are showing.  What if he blows a tire, veers into oncoming traffic kills a few people, then changes his tires?



You should probably make a thread about that guy because it doesn't have shit to do with this thread about putting "dangerous" children down.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: invitro]
    #23491028 - 07/30/16 12:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I enjoyed the psyche ward for the most part. I really looked forward to the food and some things that happened where really funny.There was this one guy who was constantly rude AF to the nurses and would pull his pants off and talk ridiculous shit. The bad part is how they dose you with large amounts of drugs to the point of discomfort. Also there was gross stuff like this dude that rubbed shit all over the bathroom at night when I needed to use it.  I have never been violent or dangerous to anyone but myself to some degree.

When I was a toddler my parents took care of a bunch of severely abused and deranged children. some of them had already done fucked up stuff like kill a bunch of kittens by putting them in the dryer and other godawful shit. I'm glad they didnt do anything fucked up to me that I can remember. You shouldn't kill anyone that hasn't done anything to harm anyone else. Anyone who proposes preemptive punishment is an absolute fucking moron of the highest order. I suggest they think long and hard about what it means to be free

I do believe that people that want to die should be given the tools to end their life as efficiently and painless as possible
I know death is nothing to fear and I trust the architect of this dream.

Killing people is easy and not much of a mess. There are ways to do it that are 100% effective and painless. Lethal injection on the other hand is fucking diabolical. It should never be done under any circumstance. A failed drug overdose is absolute torture of the highest order. It makes me wonder if on rare occasion they let it happen just to get revenge for the victims.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23491377 - 07/30/16 05:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Id do what the us government did in the 60s and dose them with lsd and mushrooms till they are better.....i wish i could find that report again.


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23493204 - 07/30/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Can't help but answer "no". I don't think anyone is completely irredeemable at age 7, and call me old fashioned but I have ideological qualms with killing people.

I definitely understand where you're coming from, though.





you're right, we can use electroshock as a conditioning tool to bring those little
bastards back in line, after 3-7 years of therapy if they arent compliant then we'll
try a lobotomy. that should make them much easier to deal with


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Re: Should It Be Legal to Put Dangerous Children Down? [Re: Crystal G]
    #23494086 - 07/30/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well, the answer is simple: Make abortions legal retroactively to age 18. Sounds good to me.


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