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 mcbob
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 Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) 
#2321274 - 02/10/04 01:23 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ok, i was gettin a little confused...
ive read th FAQ`s etc, but i am still a little in th dark when it comes down to what im actually looking for...
I hope to be picking liberty caps in the season, i live in england, in the north west.
I have basicly been getting conflicting ideas of what a typical "liberty cap" looks like. i tried to avoid pictures from th USA etc.
As you can see in th pictures i posted (one was nicked from another shroomery poster  ), they do look quite different. for starters, one`s bloody white, the others brown???
Could someone please clear this up, as one is classed as mature, the other freshly mature.
Another question, how safe is picking liberty caps in england? i read that it was much safer in england, because there are VERY few look-a-like mushrooms around.
any nfo welcome!
cheers
bob
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mcbob
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 Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: mcbob]
#2321315 - 02/10/04 01:36 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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sorry bout th pic quality... heres another.
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 Gumby
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 Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: mcbob]
#2321339 - 02/10/04 01:42 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Good questions, nice to hear that you read the FAQ too 
As far as the coloring goes, "fresh" mature liberty caps will have brown viscid(slimey) caps. As the mushrooms sit around in the elements(weather) for a while, the sun will start to have a bleaching effect on the caps, turning them an offwhite - cream color. Once you've picked a good amount of liberty caps, you'll get a general idea of the shape and gill structure, and the white caps won't throw you off. Until you've got a good idea of libs in general, it'd be best to take spore prints of them so that you can insure you have the right mushroom.
Good luck.
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mcbob
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: Gumby]
#2321367 - 02/10/04 01:48 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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kool. cheers dood. so i`ll try nd pick a few, then take spore prints of them by taking the stem off, nd leaving them to air in a warm place on a dry piece of paper, caps down, so the spores fall off? how will this determine if they liberty caps or not? are the spores a certain color?
bob
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: mcbob]
#2321474 - 02/10/04 02:21 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Go to my site at http://www.mushroomjohn.com/species.htm
There are dozens of liberty cap images there and a description and habitat, etc..They grow in manured fields but never directly out of manure. There is a second similar shroom growing in manure (Psilocybe strictipes) , also psychoactive and often collected with the liberty caps. And other habitats include any well manured lawn in public parks and rural areas, int he cities, etc. Season fall when the fall rains began until the freeze.
mj
I just answered this same thing for someoen in an email. Was that you?
mj
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mcbob
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: mjshroomer]
#2321556 - 02/10/04 02:43 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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dont think so. but is there not a test for liberty caps then?
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: mcbob]
#2321783 - 02/10/04 07:26 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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IS this a test?
Read the FAQS
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: mcbob]
#2328144 - 02/12/04 07:12 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey, those are my pics your using! 
I picked those P semilanceata in The Peak District late last November, some were huge which was quite suprising considering it was such a bad season.
If you look closely at the last image you posted you can see the difference between the 2 "fresh" specimens at the front and the 2 more "weatherbeaten" specimens at the back.
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: mcbob]
#2331967 - 02/13/04 06:38 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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mcbob: if you are going to post another user's picture[s] you need to get permission or credit the source.
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season yet!) [Re: canid]
#2335870 - 02/14/04 11:36 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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its not like the pics are copyrighted...
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season y [Re: mcbob]
#2344373 - 02/17/04 01:10 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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Old liberty caps bleach out, but also appear very different when wet. They pop up green-brown, can dry to a cream-yellow in a matter of minutes in a warm wind (or in your hand after you pick them) and will return to the translucent green again after further rain. This is a good feature for aiding identification. They dry from the nipple down, and can often be found half yellow on top, as you can see in this pic the shroom on the left is just starting to change
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season y [Re: mcbob]
#2346131 - 02/17/04 02:41 PM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know this is off topic but I don't really want to start a new thread.
I read somewhere (god knows where) that liberty caps have been found in england up until March!! Is this true? If it is, is this very very rare occurance or if I went out shrooming after a nice rain now would I have a chance of finding anything? I know that after 3 days of frost you won't be finding much but how long does it take for the ground to "recover" from the frost? It must have been 3 weeks now since we had the snow and I don't recall seeing any frost after that.
Not getting my hopes up or anything but it would be nice to know, any excuse to scour the fields
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Re: Liberty Caps In England, (yes, i kno its not th season y [Re: Slite]
#2348854 - 02/18/04 04:52 AM (21 years, 3 months ago) |
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This pic shows a group of libs of diferent colours.
Interestingly some of the smaller ones are cream as well as the larger one in the main group. This is an older mushroom as the spores are ripe along the bottom edge. The smaller ones, although cream in colour, are obviously much younger specimens. Cap colour is not determined solely by age, it is mositure content, position, exposure to wind and sun etc
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