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First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong?
    #23488103 - 07/29/16 02:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

First of all thanks for all the great resources here!

Overview with light: Close up on setup:

no that's not mold the jars are blue :smile:

So after using this guide https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613 I've gotten to the point of having 4 jars of mycelium, 3 of which are almost finished. The other seems to be done because it was already pinning. I only used 3 injection points for each and couldn't really spread it out vertically much with the lengths of the syringe/jars, so I think the colonization might have gone a bit abnormally. Definitely seemed to take long haha. By my dating it was 19 days for the one, and probably gonna be a few more days at least before the other jars are definitely finished.

-Now I did the birth, dunk, 24 hours, and roll for the first jar and got my set up all done. I know the mushroomvideos.com video showed a lot of holes in the tank, but I don't really have the tools and possibly not the privacy to drill holes in the thick plastic container I have. Also I'd kind of like to have it for actual storage in the future.
-Another difference is I didn't put much perlite in, as I only have double that amount and want to maybe repeat this process, but I'm going to mist it regularly in addition to the perlite humidification to make up for that. I imagine the harvest from these 4 will be enough to last a while though so I guess I don't really mind using all the perlite if it really matters.
-Another thing I'm slightly concerned about is the location. I'm in a small apartment so the only place I can really use is the closet area. It's not really as enclosed as normal closets and I normally keep the door half open but idk if it matters.
-Finally the only light I have that I guessed would be enough is the closet light. You can see it in one of the pictures, it doesn't hit the cake directly right now, although I can move it up to the edge of the tub where it will.

I realize this is pretty low effort but I've read that B+ or maybe just cubensis are hard to fuck up so I'm hoping I can get my haul anyways. But yeah if there's anything I should change let me know!


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23488125 - 07/29/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The holes in the fruiting chamber are there for a reason . Just follow the Tek guide and you can't fail . You put all this effort into getting this far so why not see it through .


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mandrax360]
    #23488182 - 07/29/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

As I said the plastic is extremely thick and I don't have a drill. I really don't see what the difference could possibly be as long as I keep it open and fan it often. All they need to grow is fresh air and humidity right?

If you know what the actual reason is please do tell


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23488452 - 07/29/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Papa Pukati]
    #23488587 - 07/29/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

and this

there is a huge difference.

fanning is not FAE.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23488670 - 07/29/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What they said.  Don't come asking what you're doing wrong if you don't want to hear it.  If you're gonna do cakes you better get holes in that box, otherwise you need to find something else to do.

Imagine you were stuck in there, and had to breathe inside that box.  Would you prefer it full of holes, or for somebody to come by every few hours and fan like 1 minute worth of fresh air in there for you?

The perlite isn't even serving a purpose without holes on the bottom.  So, you basically have a fail chamber right now.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23488700 - 07/29/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Trust there people I posted the same thing a month ago 1/4 inch holes 2 inches apart over the entire box. Check out some of the guys signatures that seem to know what they are talking about and you can find links to awesome teks. For the sgfc just type in the search box proper sgfc and you should find a link with ease.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23488705 - 07/29/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

He's already been given the best links..

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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23488721 - 07/29/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My bad didn't realize that was the link for the sgfc. Just pointing out what pasty pointed out to me. Trying to not be a stranger by reading random post.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
    #23490225 - 07/29/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Alright as much as I really don't want to ruin the tub and yadda yadda you guys are scaring me and gave some good links so I guess I'll try it, I have a hammer and a screwdriver that will probably work. I assume you're all going to say the same thing if I question putting holes in every single side, but I'm not sure how holes in the bottom works. Do I put paper towel over the holes to prevent the perlite from coming out? Also will I no longer have a use for the fan (pictured)? And can anyone reply to the rest of the OP about if any of the other issues are going to matter?


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23490248 - 07/29/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A hammer and a screwdriver will shatter your tub before it makes holes.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23490339 - 07/29/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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A hammer and a screwdriver will shatter your tub before it makes holes.



Ah alright. I tried with my pocket knife and that seemed to work. Now to do that x40


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23490350 - 07/29/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh man... I can't wait to see the janky looking holes that produces.  :lol:


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23494317 - 07/31/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



Alright I pretty much remade the terrarium from scratch, I threw in the rest of the perlite because whatever and made a mess when I put the holes in the bottom, then I got the loose water drained and finished the rest. Using a pocket knife for those holes was some physical labor for my hands I must say.

It's definitely a helluva lot more humid in there.

I birthed the 2nd and 3rd cakes too. Will report back once it's filled and hopefully upon some pins in the box!


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23494408 - 07/31/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I can get some more pictures tomorrow of the substrates. Is a total of ~25-30 holes good enough btw? I believe they're all 1/4" diameter.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense] * 1
    #23494428 - 07/31/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not enough holes.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mindbentempire]
    #23494443 - 07/31/16 02:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

1/4" holes spaced 2" apart

4-5" of perlite. and you don't dispose of perlite. so good thing you threw it all in there.

sgfc needs to be raised. forgot the minimum height

daylight 6500k bulb or indirect sunlight 12/12

use an exacto knife, soldering iron, or lighter+nail for holes. work smart not hard.

maybe trim the foil

remove the fan. leave the door completely open


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: locallorax]
    #23494957 - 07/31/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

needs more holes....

And take the foil off of your jars while they are colonizing. How would you feel if you were stuck in there trying to breathe with a piece of aluminium foil over your face?


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23494981 - 07/31/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Alright I pretty much remade the terrarium from scratch, I threw in the rest of the perlite because whatever and made a mess when I put the holes in the bottom, then I got the loose water drained and finished the rest. Using a pocket knife for those holes was some physical labor for my hands I must say.

It's definitely a helluva lot more humid in there.

I birthed the 2nd and 3rd cakes too. Will report back once it's filled and hopefully upon some pins in the box!




Don't go through all that using a knife. You'll split the box and run risk of accident.

You dont even need a drill.

A soldering iron is the answer...(giving you a pic so this post stands out).





Now the task is not only easy, but therapeutic as you melt in the holes. :thumbup:

Just make sure you do it outside because you'll soon get dizzy / high from the plastic fumes.  It's best to do two sides then take a breather.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23495003 - 07/31/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

a drill is a good thing to invest in if you know your way around Kijiji is and have access to the internet....

Jar lids, monotubs, sgfcs....if you don't need now you'll need one later.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23495005 - 07/31/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not to mention, what kind of fuckin savage doesn't put up shelves?


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: locallorax]
    #23495155 - 07/31/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I can't afford a soldering iron or a drill right now.
I will definitely add the rest of the holes now, the only thing that's not good about it is the stress on my hands but I'll be alright.

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locallorax said: sgfc needs to be raised. forgot the minimum height



The current setup is raised, the tub is on those jar lids on top of a large cardboard box.

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locallorax said: daylight 6500k bulb or indirect sunlight 12/12



I'm in a small apartment and the only place I can really put it is in that closet area, I tried to get a picture of the light relative to the tub. I don't have another bulb as of now but I think that should be good enough?

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PsilocyBen17 said: And take the foil off of your jars while they are colonizing. How would you feel if you were stuck in there trying to breathe with a piece of aluminium foil over your face?



The colonizing jars aren't sealed, I left the inoculation holes open with the dry verm as a filter as I was told in the guide I used.

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locallorax said: maybe trim the foil



Will trim the foil a bit, didn't know if that mattered. I assume you mean in the sgfc.

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locallorax said: remove the fan. leave the door completely open



Like leave my closet door wide open? That won't add a huge amount of airflow but I guess it'll happen without manually turning that fan on and off.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23495189 - 07/31/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

are the jar lids 3-4" tall? if not, replace them with jars or glasses.

pf-tek uses dry verm as a filter, not alu foil. remove foil as pr the TEK.

sgfc's really dont like fans and closets, try your best to get at least 3 feet clearance from any walls.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23495395 - 07/31/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The soldering iron suggestion was not only given as a means to do the holes easily, but for the fact they are only $8 or so - much less than any drill.

https://www.amazon.com/Meter®-Watts-High-performance-Soldering-Stand/dp/B007XCQAIE/ref=sr_1_9?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1469989064&sr=1-9&keywords=Soldering+iron


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23495532 - 07/31/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

unless you live with your parents you're gonna need a drill for house stuff anyway.
And once you start culting you really need one.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23495552 - 07/31/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

not to mention, drills are actually super nice to have around.. i cant tell you how many times i have used my drill outside of mycology, since i got it.


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    #23495568 - 07/31/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yeah that's what I tried to mention in the first sentence :stoned:


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    #23495595 - 07/31/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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not to mention, drills are actually super nice to have around.. i cant tell you how many times i have used my drill outside of mycology, since i got it.




I feel this way more about my pressure cooker.

Rich, meaty, piping hot, beef and ale stews done in bulk, ahoy.

It's the perfect food to have too after the mushroom experience. :thumbup:


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23495603 - 07/31/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

sorry, im a little burnt out today haha.  :stars: :drool2:


about the PC, though, i havent actually used mine for anything outside of mycology haah.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23495851 - 07/31/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Alright I cut a bunch more holes in it now. The tub is 1ft x 1ft x 1.5ft. Bottom has 15 holes in it, top has 25, the sides have ~50. Maybe I need more in the bottom? Not sure.

Yeah I guess I could consider buying a soldering iron, I'm almost broke though and I really don't think I need it. I'm in an apartment and am not messing with much stuff so I don't really need a drill right now.

The first cake has been in and out of the chamber a couple times now and I had to re-apply the verm layer because it came off from spraying a couple days ago. Maybe I should dunk it again or just get the other ones started and see if they work?


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23496000 - 07/31/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Forgot pictures.

Here's the chamber with all of the holes Close up of jar 1 (idk why it's rotating it like that even after i unchecked the auto-rotate box) The verm falls off a bit no matter what when I spray it...
And here's the last jar, I think the debris is just vermiculite since it's not spreading, but I'm not 100% sure.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23496010 - 07/31/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

holes should be spaced 2" apart in a grid pattern like explained here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542

just do your best to get close to that.

and elevate your sgfc at least 3-4" off whatever its resting on.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
    #23496152 - 07/31/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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holes should be spaced 2" apart in a grid pattern like explained here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542

just do your best to get close to that.

and elevate your sgfc at least 3-4" off whatever its resting on.




Thanks, I cut some more holes in the bottom and put it on a small box 4" high.

I would guess i have ~65% of the optimal number of holes. I have a fan I'm gonna run over top of the chamber (lower air pressure from movement) to help pull air through.


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    #23496160 - 07/31/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23496181 - 07/31/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

just read the link :super: explains everything


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    #23496193 - 07/31/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm guessing you probably still only have like half as many holes as you need.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23496368 - 07/31/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i dont think you read the link either.. a box under it isnt going to work.. it needs that 4-6in of space for air flow. if its sitting on a box, how will the air flow up through the bottom. or are any of those holes you made even on the bottom? if not then nvm, it wont really even matter to lef tit at all. that sgfc link will explain why it needs the holes were they are and how it works. read it.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23496384 - 07/31/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't use a fan with an SGFC.



got it

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I'm guessing you probably still only have like half as many holes as you need.



My hands are in pain. If I don't finish does that mean I will get less growth or none at all. I think it's working some small amount because the sides don't get condensation.

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Condensation forms on the inside walls when the temperature inside the SGFC is higher than outside the SGFC. A properly made SGFC shouldn't have enough of a temperature difference to cause condensation. If it does, then you are not likely getting good FAE. In other words, condensation is not a good sign of proper humidity, instead it's more of a sign of low FAE.




I'm not going to argue or anything. I'll put more holes in if it's necessary according to you guys.


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
    #23496388 - 07/31/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i dont think you read the link either.. a box under it isnt going to work.. it needs that 4-6in of space for air flow. if its sitting on a box, how will the air flow up through the bottom. or are any of those holes you made even on the bottom? if not then nvm, it wont really even matter to lef tit at all. that sgfc link will explain why it needs the holes were they are and how it works. read it.



No i understand, I put more holes in that aren't being covered by the box. There are about 15. is that enough for it to work at all or no?


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    #23496407 - 07/31/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You should remove the box.

Double the amount of holes.

Sit your FC on four large food tins ( beans / soup ) or your empty BRF cake jars  one each corner.


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    #23496435 - 07/31/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You should remove the box.

Double the amount of holes.

Sit your FC on four large food tins ( beans / soup ) or your empty BRF cake jars  one each corner.



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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
    #23496511 - 07/31/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Your hands could be in less pain with a drill... either put all the holes or just don't bother at all, a few isn't going to cut it.

I'm not getting the "I want to succeed" vibe much right now. :shrug:


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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23496901 - 07/31/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Your hands could be in less pain with a drill... either put all the holes or just don't bother at all, a few isn't going to cut it.

I'm not getting the "I want to succeed" vibe much right now. :shrug:



yeah I'm feeling some regret at not taking the comfortable path. too far now for it to be worth it for me though. I'm almost done manually drilling with my trusty pocket knife and grade school scissors.

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    #23497383 - 08/01/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Added a ton more holes and rolled the 2nd and 3rd cakes. Last cake is dunking right now :smile:



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    #23497431 - 08/01/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

After doing some reading of other threads here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23495102#23495102

I'm guessing I should just let the verm sit on those cakes for a full day before misting them. I've pretty much given up on the first cake (figured I'd fail one anyways :P) because I've been moving it so much, had it in a failchamber for a few days, and the verm largely fell off, even when I let it sit for an hour before misting.


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    #23497516 - 08/01/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

when I did PF Tek I found the best way to get the verm to stick to cakes was not to lightly roll it but to put it in a bag and do a shake and bake thing.


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    #23497785 - 08/01/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

thats the second time i have seen someone say to put them in a bag and shake.. does this really work? i would imagine it would just end up knocking the verm that would stick back off when you shake it.. and possibly bruise the cake. and if you had any primordia/pins, then those would for sure abort/fall off.

hell, maybe im wrong, though. i mean, i probably am.. it's just than in my head, i cant see this working all that well..

i just put verm in a bag, beat it with a hammer to make ti fine, then put it in a pan, and roll my cakes and kinda make a mound with them. then i leave them for about 30min in there, and then put in SGFC, an dont mist for about 24hours. the verm sticks verm well, with a pretty nice, thick layer.





these also had lots of in-vitro pins, so i wouldnt have been able to shake em up like that. maybe ill give it a try with a cake in the future, to see how well it does.

Psilo, when you do it, does the verm stick like those pics, better, worse? just curious at this point.


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    #23502755 - 08/02/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My verm doesn't adhere unless I make it fine.

I use a little electric blender.


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    #23504646 - 08/03/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, that too. i just put mine in a bag and beat it with a hammer haha! i have also noticed m verm sticks better when i put it in the oven for 30mins at 250F after beating it, and before trying to roll the cakes. not sure why, but it does seem to help. maybe it makes it a little fluffier..


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    #23511671 - 08/05/16 04:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Moisture and other chemical changes while heating should make it easier to crumble larger grade verm right?


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    #23511872 - 08/05/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

iono.. actually just used a coffee grinder last night to grind some verm before adding it to my coir and prepping it. gonna be doing that for my cakes roll from now on. just a pain since you have to do it with fairly small amounts at a time. but it does work better than a hammer =p


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    #23511878 - 08/05/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh man... I can't wait to see the janky looking holes that produces.  :lol:





I did this with my first SGFC.  Omg it was terrible.  It worked, but Jesus Christ.  I bought a drill after that, but my hands were numb from trying to work the holes for days. :/


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    #23525292 - 08/09/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Oh man... I can't wait to see the janky looking holes that produces.  :lol:





I did this with my first SGFC.  Omg it was terrible.  It worked, but Jesus Christ.  I bought a drill after that, but my hands were numb from trying to work the holes for days. :/




Yep pretty much. I'm on a low budget and the pain is gone now so I guess I don't regret it but I'm not doing that shit again. What did help it was I figured out that I could use my pocket knife to start the hole and my scissors to actually make it into a round hole, since the scissors can act as a lever when you separate the blades.


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