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Comprehense
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
#23496435 - 07/31/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Duncan Rowhl said: You should remove the box.
Double the amount of holes.
Sit your FC on four large food tins ( beans / soup ) or your empty BRF cake jars one each corner.
alright will do
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Inocuole
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23496511 - 07/31/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your hands could be in less pain with a drill... either put all the holes or just don't bother at all, a few isn't going to cut it.
I'm not getting the "I want to succeed" vibe much right now.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23496901 - 07/31/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Your hands could be in less pain with a drill... either put all the holes or just don't bother at all, a few isn't going to cut it.
I'm not getting the "I want to succeed" vibe much right now. 
yeah I'm feeling some regret at not taking the comfortable path. too far now for it to be worth it for me though. I'm almost done manually drilling with my trusty pocket knife and grade school scissors.
To any other noobs watching, I'm an idiot.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23497383 - 08/01/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Added a ton more holes and rolled the 2nd and 3rd cakes. Last cake is dunking right now 
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23497431 - 08/01/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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After doing some reading of other threads here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23495102#23495102
I'm guessing I should just let the verm sit on those cakes for a full day before misting them. I've pretty much given up on the first cake (figured I'd fail one anyways :P) because I've been moving it so much, had it in a failchamber for a few days, and the verm largely fell off, even when I let it sit for an hour before misting.
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PsilocyBen17
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23497516 - 08/01/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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when I did PF Tek I found the best way to get the verm to stick to cakes was not to lightly roll it but to put it in a bag and do a shake and bake thing.
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mupetmower
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: PsilocyBen17]
#23497785 - 08/01/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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thats the second time i have seen someone say to put them in a bag and shake.. does this really work? i would imagine it would just end up knocking the verm that would stick back off when you shake it.. and possibly bruise the cake. and if you had any primordia/pins, then those would for sure abort/fall off.
hell, maybe im wrong, though. i mean, i probably am.. it's just than in my head, i cant see this working all that well..
i just put verm in a bag, beat it with a hammer to make ti fine, then put it in a pan, and roll my cakes and kinda make a mound with them. then i leave them for about 30min in there, and then put in SGFC, an dont mist for about 24hours. the verm sticks verm well, with a pretty nice, thick layer.


these also had lots of in-vitro pins, so i wouldnt have been able to shake em up like that. maybe ill give it a try with a cake in the future, to see how well it does.
Psilo, when you do it, does the verm stick like those pics, better, worse? just curious at this point.
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Duncan Rowhl
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
#23502755 - 08/02/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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My verm doesn't adhere unless I make it fine.
I use a little electric blender.
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mupetmower
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
#23504646 - 08/03/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, that too. i just put mine in a bag and beat it with a hammer haha! i have also noticed m verm sticks better when i put it in the oven for 30mins at 250F after beating it, and before trying to roll the cakes. not sure why, but it does seem to help. maybe it makes it a little fluffier..
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
#23511671 - 08/05/16 04:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Moisture and other chemical changes while heating should make it easier to crumble larger grade verm right?
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mupetmower
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Adden]
#23511872 - 08/05/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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iono.. actually just used a coffee grinder last night to grind some verm before adding it to my coir and prepping it. gonna be doing that for my cakes roll from now on. just a pain since you have to do it with fairly small amounts at a time. but it does work better than a hammer =p
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23511878 - 08/05/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Oh man... I can't wait to see the janky looking holes that produces. 
I did this with my first SGFC. Omg it was terrible. It worked, but Jesus Christ. I bought a drill after that, but my hands were numb from trying to work the holes for days. :/
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Mushierage]
#23525292 - 08/09/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushierage said:
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Inocuole said: Oh man... I can't wait to see the janky looking holes that produces. 
I did this with my first SGFC. Omg it was terrible. It worked, but Jesus Christ. I bought a drill after that, but my hands were numb from trying to work the holes for days. :/
Yep pretty much. I'm on a low budget and the pain is gone now so I guess I don't regret it but I'm not doing that shit again. What did help it was I figured out that I could use my pocket knife to start the hole and my scissors to actually make it into a round hole, since the scissors can act as a lever when you separate the blades.
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