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Inocuole
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: PsilocyBen17]
#23495005 - 07/31/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not to mention, what kind of fuckin savage doesn't put up shelves?
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: locallorax]
#23495155 - 07/31/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can't afford a soldering iron or a drill right now. I will definitely add the rest of the holes now, the only thing that's not good about it is the stress on my hands but I'll be alright.
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locallorax said: sgfc needs to be raised. forgot the minimum height
The current setup is raised, the tub is on those jar lids on top of a large cardboard box.
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locallorax said: daylight 6500k bulb or indirect sunlight 12/12
I'm in a small apartment and the only place I can really put it is in that closet area, I tried to get a picture of the light relative to the tub. I don't have another bulb as of now but I think that should be good enough?
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PsilocyBen17 said: And take the foil off of your jars while they are colonizing. How would you feel if you were stuck in there trying to breathe with a piece of aluminium foil over your face?
The colonizing jars aren't sealed, I left the inoculation holes open with the dry verm as a filter as I was told in the guide I used.
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locallorax said: maybe trim the foil
Will trim the foil a bit, didn't know if that mattered. I assume you mean in the sgfc.
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locallorax said: remove the fan. leave the door completely open
Like leave my closet door wide open? That won't add a huge amount of airflow but I guess it'll happen without manually turning that fan on and off.
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spacechildo
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23495189 - 07/31/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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are the jar lids 3-4" tall? if not, replace them with jars or glasses.
pf-tek uses dry verm as a filter, not alu foil. remove foil as pr the TEK.
sgfc's really dont like fans and closets, try your best to get at least 3 feet clearance from any walls.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
#23495395 - 07/31/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The soldering iron suggestion was not only given as a means to do the holes easily, but for the fact they are only $8 or so - much less than any drill.
https://www.amazon.com/Meter®-Watts-High-performance-Soldering-Stand/dp/B007XCQAIE/ref=sr_1_9?s=industrial&ie=UTF8&qid=1469989064&sr=1-9&keywords=Soldering+iron
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spacechildo
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
#23495532 - 07/31/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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unless you live with your parents you're gonna need a drill for house stuff anyway. And once you start culting you really need one.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
#23495552 - 07/31/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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not to mention, drills are actually super nice to have around.. i cant tell you how many times i have used my drill outside of mycology, since i got it.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
#23495568 - 07/31/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah that's what I tried to mention in the first sentence
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
#23495595 - 07/31/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: not to mention, drills are actually super nice to have around.. i cant tell you how many times i have used my drill outside of mycology, since i got it.
I feel this way more about my pressure cooker.
Rich, meaty, piping hot, beef and ale stews done in bulk, ahoy.
It's the perfect food to have too after the mushroom experience.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
#23495603 - 07/31/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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sorry, im a little burnt out today haha. 
about the PC, though, i havent actually used mine for anything outside of mycology haah.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
#23495851 - 07/31/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright I cut a bunch more holes in it now. The tub is 1ft x 1ft x 1.5ft. Bottom has 15 holes in it, top has 25, the sides have ~50. Maybe I need more in the bottom? Not sure.
Yeah I guess I could consider buying a soldering iron, I'm almost broke though and I really don't think I need it. I'm in an apartment and am not messing with much stuff so I don't really need a drill right now.
The first cake has been in and out of the chamber a couple times now and I had to re-apply the verm layer because it came off from spraying a couple days ago. Maybe I should dunk it again or just get the other ones started and see if they work?
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23496000 - 07/31/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Forgot pictures.
Here's the chamber with all of the holes Close up of jar 1 (idk why it's rotating it like that even after i unchecked the auto-rotate box) The verm falls off a bit no matter what when I spray it... And here's the last jar, I think the debris is just vermiculite since it's not spreading, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23496010 - 07/31/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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holes should be spaced 2" apart in a grid pattern like explained here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542
just do your best to get close to that.
and elevate your sgfc at least 3-4" off whatever its resting on.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
#23496152 - 07/31/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said: holes should be spaced 2" apart in a grid pattern like explained here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542
just do your best to get close to that.
and elevate your sgfc at least 3-4" off whatever its resting on.
Thanks, I cut some more holes in the bottom and put it on a small box 4" high.
I would guess i have ~65% of the optimal number of holes. I have a fan I'm gonna run over top of the chamber (lower air pressure from movement) to help pull air through.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23496160 - 07/31/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23496181 - 07/31/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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just read the link explains everything
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Inocuole
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: spacechildo]
#23496193 - 07/31/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm guessing you probably still only have like half as many holes as you need.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23496368 - 07/31/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i dont think you read the link either.. a box under it isnt going to work.. it needs that 4-6in of space for air flow. if its sitting on a box, how will the air flow up through the bottom. or are any of those holes you made even on the bottom? if not then nvm, it wont really even matter to lef tit at all. that sgfc link will explain why it needs the holes were they are and how it works. read it.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23496384 - 07/31/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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amidogen said: Don't use a fan with an SGFC.
got it
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Inocuole said: I'm guessing you probably still only have like half as many holes as you need.
My hands are in pain. If I don't finish does that mean I will get less growth or none at all. I think it's working some small amount because the sides don't get condensation.
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Condensation forms on the inside walls when the temperature inside the SGFC is higher than outside the SGFC. A properly made SGFC shouldn't have enough of a temperature difference to cause condensation. If it does, then you are not likely getting good FAE. In other words, condensation is not a good sign of proper humidity, instead it's more of a sign of low FAE.
I'm not going to argue or anything. I'll put more holes in if it's necessary according to you guys.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
#23496388 - 07/31/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: i dont think you read the link either.. a box under it isnt going to work.. it needs that 4-6in of space for air flow. if its sitting on a box, how will the air flow up through the bottom. or are any of those holes you made even on the bottom? if not then nvm, it wont really even matter to lef tit at all. that sgfc link will explain why it needs the holes were they are and how it works. read it.
No i understand, I put more holes in that aren't being covered by the box. There are about 15. is that enough for it to work at all or no?
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23496407 - 07/31/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should remove the box.
Double the amount of holes.
Sit your FC on four large food tins ( beans / soup ) or your empty BRF cake jars one each corner.
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