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Comprehense
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First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong?
#23488103 - 07/29/16 02:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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First of all thanks for all the great resources here!
Overview with light: Close up on setup: 
no that's not mold the jars are blue 
So after using this guide https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613 I've gotten to the point of having 4 jars of mycelium, 3 of which are almost finished. The other seems to be done because it was already pinning. I only used 3 injection points for each and couldn't really spread it out vertically much with the lengths of the syringe/jars, so I think the colonization might have gone a bit abnormally. Definitely seemed to take long haha. By my dating it was 19 days for the one, and probably gonna be a few more days at least before the other jars are definitely finished.
-Now I did the birth, dunk, 24 hours, and roll for the first jar and got my set up all done. I know the mushroomvideos.com video showed a lot of holes in the tank, but I don't really have the tools and possibly not the privacy to drill holes in the thick plastic container I have. Also I'd kind of like to have it for actual storage in the future. -Another difference is I didn't put much perlite in, as I only have double that amount and want to maybe repeat this process, but I'm going to mist it regularly in addition to the perlite humidification to make up for that. I imagine the harvest from these 4 will be enough to last a while though so I guess I don't really mind using all the perlite if it really matters. -Another thing I'm slightly concerned about is the location. I'm in a small apartment so the only place I can really use is the closet area. It's not really as enclosed as normal closets and I normally keep the door half open but idk if it matters. -Finally the only light I have that I guessed would be enough is the closet light. You can see it in one of the pictures, it doesn't hit the cake directly right now, although I can move it up to the edge of the tub where it will.
I realize this is pretty low effort but I've read that B+ or maybe just cubensis are hard to fuck up so I'm hoping I can get my haul anyways. But yeah if there's anything I should change let me know!
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mandrax360
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23488125 - 07/29/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The holes in the fruiting chamber are there for a reason . Just follow the Tek guide and you can't fail . You put all this effort into getting this far so why not see it through .
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mandrax360]
#23488182 - 07/29/16 03:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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As I said the plastic is extremely thick and I don't have a drill. I really don't see what the difference could possibly be as long as I keep it open and fan it often. All they need to grow is fresh air and humidity right?
If you know what the actual reason is please do tell
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Papa Pukati
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23488452 - 07/29/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mupetmower
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Papa Pukati]
#23488587 - 07/29/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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and this
there is a huge difference.
fanning is not FAE.
-------------------- -The wise man never stops seeking knowledge.
-I wanna feel the change consume me, feel the outside turning in. I wanna feel the metamorphosis and cleansing I've endured within.
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Inocuole
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
#23488670 - 07/29/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What they said. Don't come asking what you're doing wrong if you don't want to hear it. If you're gonna do cakes you better get holes in that box, otherwise you need to find something else to do.
Imagine you were stuck in there, and had to breathe inside that box. Would you prefer it full of holes, or for somebody to come by every few hours and fan like 1 minute worth of fresh air in there for you?
The perlite isn't even serving a purpose without holes on the bottom. So, you basically have a fail chamber right now.
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xPTxHIPPIe
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23488700 - 07/29/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Trust there people I posted the same thing a month ago 1/4 inch holes 2 inches apart over the entire box. Check out some of the guys signatures that seem to know what they are talking about and you can find links to awesome teks. For the sgfc just type in the search box proper sgfc and you should find a link with ease.
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Inocuole
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mupetmower]
#23488705 - 07/29/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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He's already been given the best links..
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mupetmower said: and this
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xPTxHIPPIe
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23488721 - 07/29/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My bad didn't realize that was the link for the sgfc. Just pointing out what pasty pointed out to me. Trying to not be a stranger by reading random post.
Edited by xPTxHIPPIe (07/29/16 09:35 AM)
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: xPTxHIPPIe]
#23490225 - 07/29/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright as much as I really don't want to ruin the tub and yadda yadda you guys are scaring me and gave some good links so I guess I'll try it, I have a hammer and a screwdriver that will probably work. I assume you're all going to say the same thing if I question putting holes in every single side, but I'm not sure how holes in the bottom works. Do I put paper towel over the holes to prevent the perlite from coming out? Also will I no longer have a use for the fan (pictured)? And can anyone reply to the rest of the OP about if any of the other issues are going to matter?
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Inocuole
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23490248 - 07/29/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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A hammer and a screwdriver will shatter your tub before it makes holes.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Inocuole]
#23490339 - 07/29/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Inocuole said: A hammer and a screwdriver will shatter your tub before it makes holes.
Ah alright. I tried with my pocket knife and that seemed to work. Now to do that x40
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Inocuole
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23490350 - 07/29/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh man... I can't wait to see the janky looking holes that produces.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23494317 - 07/31/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright I pretty much remade the terrarium from scratch, I threw in the rest of the perlite because whatever and made a mess when I put the holes in the bottom, then I got the loose water drained and finished the rest. Using a pocket knife for those holes was some physical labor for my hands I must say.
It's definitely a helluva lot more humid in there.
I birthed the 2nd and 3rd cakes too. Will report back once it's filled and hopefully upon some pins in the box!
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23494408 - 07/31/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I can get some more pictures tomorrow of the substrates. Is a total of ~25-30 holes good enough btw? I believe they're all 1/4" diameter.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense] 1
#23494428 - 07/31/16 02:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not enough holes.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: mindbentempire]
#23494443 - 07/31/16 02:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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1/4" holes spaced 2" apart
4-5" of perlite. and you don't dispose of perlite. so good thing you threw it all in there. sgfc needs to be raised. forgot the minimum height
daylight 6500k bulb or indirect sunlight 12/12
use an exacto knife, soldering iron, or lighter+nail for holes. work smart not hard.
maybe trim the foil
remove the fan. leave the door completely open
Edited by locallorax (07/31/16 03:00 AM)
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PsilocyBen17
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: locallorax]
#23494957 - 07/31/16 08:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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needs more holes....
And take the foil off of your jars while they are colonizing. How would you feel if you were stuck in there trying to breathe with a piece of aluminium foil over your face?
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Duncan Rowhl
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Comprehense]
#23494981 - 07/31/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Comprehense said:

Alright I pretty much remade the terrarium from scratch, I threw in the rest of the perlite because whatever and made a mess when I put the holes in the bottom, then I got the loose water drained and finished the rest. Using a pocket knife for those holes was some physical labor for my hands I must say.
It's definitely a helluva lot more humid in there.
I birthed the 2nd and 3rd cakes too. Will report back once it's filled and hopefully upon some pins in the box!
Don't go through all that using a knife. You'll split the box and run risk of accident.
You dont even need a drill.
A soldering iron is the answer...(giving you a pic so this post stands out).

Now the task is not only easy, but therapeutic as you melt in the holes. 
Just make sure you do it outside because you'll soon get dizzy / high from the plastic fumes. It's best to do two sides then take a breather.
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Re: First time PF tek. Am I doing anything too wrong? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
#23495003 - 07/31/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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a drill is a good thing to invest in if you know your way around Kijiji is and have access to the internet....
Jar lids, monotubs, sgfcs....if you don't need now you'll need one later.
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