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If energy can only be transferred.....
#23487550 - 07/28/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Then where does the very begenning of a single thought come from?
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow] 9
#23487552 - 07/28/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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calories
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: demiu5]
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23487592 - 07/28/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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#23487600 - 07/28/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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From like, the universe, man!
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: nooneman]
#23487616 - 07/28/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23487619 - 07/28/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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God, dipshit.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23487625 - 07/28/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
the thought itself comes from the brain. the brain produces thoughts, through energy by way of calories
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: nooneman]
#23487628 - 07/28/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It all comes from the sun. Heat energy radiates from the sun down to the Earth where it's stored by plants in chemical bonds that go on to fuel animal and human metabolism.
All of our energy ultimately comes from the sun. Even the energy stored in fossil fuels originally came from the sun through the same processes that provide us with food.
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#23487638 - 07/28/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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God, dipshit.
That would imply we do not have free will.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23487640 - 07/28/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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How so?
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: demiu5]
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spirit_shadow said: That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
the thought itself comes from the brain. the brain produces thoughts, through energy by way of calories
How does it produce the thought? Or should I say WHY? im thinking this sentence as I type it. What caused me to form those words?
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Shiithead]
#23487652 - 07/28/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The energy is a gift. You can do whatever you want with it.
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#23487653 - 07/28/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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why do hippies say "energy" and "the universe" so much
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
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spirit_shadow said: That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
the thought itself comes from the brain. the brain produces thoughts, through energy by way of calories
How does it produce the thought? Or should I say WHY? im thinking this sentence as I type it. What caused me to form those words?
are you on drugs?
also, sophistic technically has this correct
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Shiithead]
#23487656 - 07/28/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The real question you should be asking is the origin of life.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: demiu5] 5
#23487658 - 07/28/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Technically, to create a thought one must first create the universe
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
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spirit_shadow said: That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
the thought itself comes from the brain. the brain produces thoughts, through energy by way of calories
How does it produce the thought? Or should I say WHY? im thinking this sentence as I type it. What caused me to form those words?
i'm not a neurobiologist/physicist
you should probably ask someone that is
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23487665 - 07/28/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, that's only if you wish to make an apple pie from scratch
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23487666 - 07/28/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Technically, to create a thought one must first create the universe 
the mind was born into the universe, not the other way around
i.e. a program/application can't execute without a base (i.e. an operating system/shell) to run from
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: demiu5]
#23487671 - 07/28/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The mind is an expression of the laws of the universe. It cannot exist without them. Unless you're suggesting some cracked out spiritual theology.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Shiithead]
#23487673 - 07/28/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: How so?
If our thoughts come from god then they are not our own. Plus people have dark thoughts so that is impossible.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23487678 - 07/28/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stimuli from your current environment combined with past experiences and mood/state/etc are what drive new thoughts in the human brain (not to mention innate mental processes). There was one (old) inhumane study I remember where a child was deprived of external stimuli and grew up to be essentially a blank sheet. It's going to take some digging and I learned about it in a psych class, so it's out there somewhere.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23487694 - 07/28/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It really depends on what you want to chalk up as "first cause". You could say that that the first cause is the Big Bang, and this is the theory with the most evidence and consensus backing it up it, but in fact it's totally provisional upon what evidence is available to us and how talk about it. The first cause could be your own mind. You would have no way of really knowing.
I usually tend to go with the consensus of the scientific community when trying to decide how to look at things, but it's healthy to bear in mind that any theory is subject to disproof.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23487695 - 07/28/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If our thoughts come from god then they are not our own. Plus people have dark thoughts so that is impossible.
The energy comes from God. It takes energy to create thought, no?
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Shiithead]
#23487701 - 07/28/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And that energy can either be given back to God or used for the self. It's why we are all here. To test the waters and to use energy wisely. In the next life we will be given so much more. If we can handle it here. Earth is a cradle. There's a whole universe out there if you didn't know..
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Shiithead]
#23487709 - 07/28/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you absorb peoples souls when you kill them? You should legit get their left over energy if you kill them.
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Interesting. But sometimes thoughts just happen randomly. Are those from the variables you listed as well?....you are making me feel like a robot. Anyway I need sleep, I will continue this converstion tomorrow. Goodnight
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Shiithead]
#23487712 - 07/28/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I personally think that talk of first causes muddies the water. It implies that time has a beginning and an end, when we have no way of knowing that this is true.
It would make more sense to me if time was cyclical, rather than linear. But, we don't talk about time in a cyclical sense, we talk about it in a linear sense because we're preoccupied with birth and death. I think that's probably why we have to rely on a theory like the big bang or on any other notion of a first cause. If we had learned to understand time as cyclical instead of linear, we would have very different theories of energy and matter and we would have no cause to doubt the existence of free will.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23487720 - 07/28/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: The mind is an expression of the laws of the universe. It cannot exist without them. Unless you're suggesting some cracked out spiritual theology.
no, i'm saying the mind wouldn't be able to create the universe if the universe didn't already exist for the mind to be
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23487721 - 07/28/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Do you absorb peoples souls when you kill them? You should legit get their left over energy if you kill them.
No the soul goes back to God, if you believe in Him anyways. That's why you gotta enslave them and siphon their energy while they are here.
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Sophistic Radiance said: I personally think that talk of first causes muddies the water. It implies that time has a beginning and an end, when we have no way of knowing that this is true.
It would make more sense to me if time was cyclical, rather than linear. But, we don't talk about time in a cyclical sense, we talk about it in a linear sense because we're discontinuous beings who go through birth and death. I think that's probably why we have to rely on a theory like the big bang or on any other notion of a first cause. If we had learned to understand time as cyclical instead of linear, we would have very different theories of energy and matter.
I see it as both. Probably all the LSD fueled scripture learning. Who knows though for sure. You gotta believe in something though.
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Sophistic Radiance said: I personally think that talk of first causes muddies the water. It implies that time has a beginning and an end, when we have no way of knowing that this is true.
It would make more sense to me if time was cyclical, rather than linear. But, we don't talk about time in a cyclical sense, we talk about it in a linear sense because we're discontinuous beings who go through birth and death. I think that's probably why we have to rely on a theory like the big bang or on any other notion of a first cause. If we had learned to understand time as cyclical instead of linear, we would have very different theories of energy and matter.
I see it as both. Probably all the LSD fueled scripture learning. Who knows though for sure. You gotta believe in something though.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: demiu5]
#23487734 - 07/28/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you believe in yourself?
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Shiithead] 1
#23487810 - 07/28/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I sure don't, never even met the guy
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Ezuma]
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I sure don't, never even met the guy
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
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spirit_shadow said: That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
the thought itself comes from the brain. the brain produces thoughts, through energy by way of calories
How does it produce the thought? Or should I say WHY? im thinking this sentence as I type it. What caused me to form those words?
basically its like this
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Sheekle] 2
#23487962 - 07/29/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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the universe is made up of empty space and matter, which is just empty space, but energy condensed to a slow vibration
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: 404]
#23487976 - 07/29/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You are the universe man 
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Plain]
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In some belief systems based on the Tree of Life, above the Crown exists a place where all ideas and thoughts already exist in an inconceivable infinite light known as Ain Soph Aur, where by its nature, there's no input or output as nothing can be added or removed from infinity. Ideas are only "discovered" as they pass down the Tree of Life from non-existence, to subconscious, to consciousness, and finally to existence in the world. So in essence, the beginning of a thought already exists "out there," and is waiting to be "discovered" in the way that gravity or lightning were "discovered;" they already existed and a combination of factors led to their path into human consciousness. Interestingly, this process describes not only the creation of ideas, but of the universe itself and mankind. Mankind's descent from the infinite light into the material world could be called "the fall of man."
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: 404]
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Sheekle said: why do hippies say "energy" and "the universe" so much
the universe is made up of empty space and matter, which is just empty space, but energy condensed to a slow vibration
As empty space is capable of containing the energy condensed to a slow vibration that is matter, and matter can only exist within the realm of that which does (exist) because it can't exist within the realm of that which doesn't as nothing doesn't exist, is empty space truly empty? What the farts is empty space?
I'm gonna get to the bottom of this. Pun slightly intended.
@Sheekle, maybe because those are the broadest terms which by their definitions encompass any observation of anything. Pretty much anything they're trying to explain probably involves energy of some form, and it probably took place in the universe.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Into The Woods]
#23488169 - 07/29/16 03:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thought can refer to the ideas or arrangements of ideas that result from thinking, the act of producing thoughts, or the process of producing thoughts. Although thought is a fundamental human activity familiar to everyone, there is no generally accepted agreement as to what thought is or how it is created. Thoughts may or may not arise in the mind from the product of subconscious brain processing.
Because thought underlies many human actions and interactions, understanding its physical and metaphysical origins, processes, and effects has been a longstanding goal of many academic disciplines including psychology, neuroscience, philosophy, artificial intelligence, biology, sociology and cognitive science.
Thinking allows humans to make sense of, interpret, represent or model the world they experience, and to make predictions about that world. It is therefore helpful to an organism with needs, objectives, and desires as it makes plans or otherwise attempts to accomplish those goals.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: The Phleg]
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spirit_shadow said: That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
the thought itself comes from the brain. the brain produces thoughts, through energy by way of calories
How does it produce the thought? Or should I say WHY? im thinking this sentence as I type it. What caused me to form those words?
basically its like this

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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Shiithead]
#23488342 - 07/29/16 06:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: Do you believe in yourself?
in what way?
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: demiu5]
#23488357 - 07/29/16 06:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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transferred into solar power !
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: demiu5] 1
#23488494 - 07/29/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
the thought itself comes from the brain. the brain produces thoughts, through energy by way of calories
This is why nerds are always thin and lanky.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Magenta]
#23488628 - 07/29/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Into The Woods]
#23488731 - 07/29/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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HI WOODS! HOWVE U BEEN?!
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Sheekle]
#23488779 - 07/29/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My conclusion is that conciousness is not a physical "thing", it has to be spiritual.
Edit: therefore it can not be measured in our reality.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Magenta]
#23488791 - 07/29/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: That may be what allows them to be executed but im talking the essence, idea, the thought itself. Where does it come from?
the thought itself comes from the brain. the brain produces thoughts, through energy by way of calories
This is why nerds are always thin and lanky.
P. sure this is actually true

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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23489576 - 07/29/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: Then where does the very begenning of a single thought come from?
From our brains, of course!

Our brains are like the recievers for the energy being transmitted by the universe. It's a yin and yang relationship, all one energy.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: abltsandwich]
#23489633 - 07/29/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like that
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: ImSl8]
#23490674 - 07/29/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Then how do you explain conciousness? God, or as I would like to call it, "it" has to exist. If energey can neither be created nor destroyed then the essense of an idea is an unexplainable miracle.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23490695 - 07/29/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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But it can be created, hence the big bang.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23490702 - 07/29/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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if the big bang really did happen where did the starting materials come from? Nothing?
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23490716 - 07/29/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats the obvious deduction. If they want the big bang then logically it follows that there was a point where there was nothing. Or as most assert, it was always there. Both suggestions are the embodiment of a paradox.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23490804 - 07/29/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Thats the obvious deduction. If they want the big bang then logically it follows that there was a point where there was nothing. Or as most assert, it was always there. Both suggestions are the embodiment of a paradox.
Exactly. Which is why only the unexplainable can explain it.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23490935 - 07/29/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Thats the obvious deduction. If they want the big bang then logically it follows that there was a point where there was nothing. Or as most assert, it was always there. Both suggestions are the embodiment of a paradox.
Exactly. Which is why only the unexplainable can explain it.
unexplain =/= explain
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23490993 - 07/30/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Chemicals can be altered with electricity to create energy.
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Re: If energy can only be transferred..... [Re: Sheekle]
#23491060 - 07/30/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: Then how do you explain conciousness? God, or as I would like to call it, "it" has to exist. If energey can neither be created nor destroyed then the essense of an idea is an unexplainable miracle.
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spirit_shadow said: if the big bang really did happen where did the starting materials come from? Nothing?
It's a work in progress. There's lots of mind boggling open questions just waiting to be answered to give rise to more questions that will drive the future generations of physicists absolutely bananas.
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WOODS. why is it so hard to stay in touch with you? 
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