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Squeezy Bottle Syringe 1
#23486437 - 07/28/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is a tesco (UK supermarket) ketchup bottle.

The bottle is PP5, the cap has no markings but has held up to long heatings near boiling so I think it is PP5. The PP5 stamp is on the neck area when you take the cap off, most squeezy bottles I have are not PP5, as sauce bottles are sealed you can check in supermarkets by screwing off the cap, most I have have the plastic number listed there. Heinz ketchup was not, but could be in other regions.
I have used it with no syringe to make LC which proved to be clean.
  
I do not bother with filters on LCs, so none to get wet, you can shake freely to aerate the liquid and break up myc. With quick bursts of squeezing I get a pretty consistant 1ml/1gram out each time. It is quick and easy to work with and does not seem to drip, the exit port seems to have held up to the heating. When you let go after squeezing it draws air into the port and closes off. I have not tested it with agar yet but as it pours thick ketchup I think it will be OK. The liquid jets out of the bottle so you can just lift a jar lid up a little and squirt in LC from the side with the bottle held at an angle in a SAB. It could make filling petris very quick & easy, you would get the knack of how much of a squeeze to give. The same ketchup comes in bottles which are nearly 1 litre.
I attached a BD 10ml syringe to the top, it actually required no silicone or adhesives, it was a perfect fit. I cut it at the 1ml mark, I then cut it smaller to minimise the space between needle and port but it broke when I pushed it on. So my second was at 1ml and seemed fine too. I think if this is PC'd or even boiled it may become loose as the plastic will be under stress and soften when hot, so I think it will need to be siliconed on.

To stop the deformation issue the needle part could be wrapped in foil and sterilized alongside the bottle, then put the cap on in a SAB, the lid is left loose during sterilizing, if it is tightened at all you risk the plastic deforming and cooling and setting in that deformed state. The sauce outlet port itself could be used as an injection port with a needle, and as you are not piercing it then it could last a long time. In the photo I squeezed the bottle and took photos to show how it opens up, this happens in a split second.
The needle limits the amount which comes out so in the same quick squeezes I consistently get 0.3ml/0.3g of liquid out (it was 1ml with no needle)
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: blackout]
#23486483 - 07/28/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: azur]
#23486517 - 07/28/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by shroominmyroom (12/12/17 04:28 PM)
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That's pretty cool. For when 60cc ain't cutting the mustard ketchup.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23486596 - 07/28/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is really cool, but i just thought about something. when you squeeze out and it opens that port thing, when you release the squeeze, when your done doing whatever, wont it pull some air back into it? i know it would be used in a SAB, but couldnt that cause some potential contam vectors from that air getting pulled in?
either way, it's still an awesome idea. im gonna see if i can find some of those Ketchup bottles here in the US.. i wanna use it for blenderless LI!
EDIT - just realized you mentioned it does pull the air back into it(i missed that part) but this doesnt concern you? im just curious if it could cause any problems.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: blackout]
#23486619 - 07/28/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey I remember you talking about this in the UK section interested to see how this works out My thought on it is if you need to flame the needle each time would the port on the bottle not possibly hold contams that my be picked up on the squirt? Btw I'm not trying to knock you down genuinely want to do this myself got two empties saved after reading your post on UK section
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: mrmazdarx9]
#23487623 - 07/28/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is quite an inovation to me! I will definitely be constructing this device.
The bottle pictured is the original ketchup bottle?
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I'm digging this idea! 
I will probably give this a shot, if I can find a PP5 ketchup bottle. Maybe I'll amazon that European shit.
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been saving these bottles after seeing you mention them before, will be trying them soon.
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Edited by weetsie (07/29/16 01:56 AM)
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mupetmower said: just realized you mentioned it does pull the air back into it(i missed that part) but this doesnt concern you?
Yes, it does worry me, however if you are pouring agar or LC from a jar in a SAB from a bottle or jar it is doing the same thing, just not as noticeably, any displaced volume is taken up by new air.
If in a SAB it will hopefully draw in clean air. If you are injecting into PF jars or filtered grain jars you release the squeeze before taking out and hopefully it draws up air from inside the jar which is clean.
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mrmazdarx9 said:My thought on it is if you need to flame the needle each time would the port on the bottle not possibly hold contams that my be picked up on the squirt?
yes, I think you will have to be careful when you release the squeeze on the bottle, it could suck up tiny bits from a PF jar althogugh those bits should be sterile themselves. I tired to minimize the volume held in the original syringe body, but as I said, trim too much off and it cracks. When finished you have a small volume of LC trapped in that volume. This device might be best used all in one session.
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Bigbadwooof said: I will probably give this a shot, if I can find a PP5 ketchup bottle. Maybe I'll amazon that European shit.
I would look in your local supermarket, take the caps off, you will look odd but they are all sealed inside these days. This is a supermarket own brand so less likely to be on sale on amazon or in those US stores that might have uk food for ex-pats.
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Mycologist217 said: The bottle pictured is the original ketchup bottle?
yes, there are at least 3 sizes of this type and all are pp5 bottoms and the lids look the same.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: blackout]
#23489461 - 07/29/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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These ones also have PP5 bottoms, I cannot be sure of the caps but they looked similar to mine.
 the one above is surprisingly available online, but I still reckon just search your local supermarket for PP5 as shipping is probably high. https://www.britishonlinesupermarket.com/british-store/tesco-salad-cream-squeezy-550g.html#SID=400
 
If bottles are too clear they are usually PET, some which look PP5 are not, like tesco mayo.
EDIT: the value salad cream does not have a self sealing port, just a small hole.
Edited by blackout (08/03/16 03:30 PM)
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: blackout]
#23489473 - 07/29/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm. It's unfortunate that Heinz doesn't use PP5. Cheap fucks.
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right, yeah.. i bet we can find pp5 stuff similar to these in the US though. im going o be looking out for some on the next grocery trip.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: mupetmower]
#23489509 - 07/29/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, if you run across something, post it here Otherwise, I will also check it out myself, next time I go grocery shopping.
Does anyone know if Super Soakers are PP5?
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Bigbadwooof said:
Does anyone know if Super Soakers are PP5? 
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: mupetmower]
#23495357 - 07/31/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Any luck finding PP5 condiment bottles in the US?
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Well up in Canada we apparently don't rate a pp5 condemned container.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: Bigbadwooof] 1
#23495375 - 07/31/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i actually havent gone to get groceries, yet. i was tripping yesterday, so ill prolly go today or tomorrow to look.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: mupetmower]
#23505778 - 08/03/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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alright, i went to Walmart. while i didnt find anythign Tesco, i did find just one, almost exact same thing:

it is Heinz Mustard. and only the mustard. both sizes of the bottles are PP5. the ketchup bottles re not, though. the lids for these do not say PP5 however. but, they have the same little squeeze port, thing in them. with the little suction flap things haha.
most everything is mad with the PET 1 stuff, or whatevver it is. i also noticed a lot with a 2 in the little triangle, but cant rmemeber whaat the letters where.. i tink something with a H. and then there were wuite a few with 7 in the triangle, which said "OTHER" under. so, not sure what that all means, really. gonna look it up.
I am only aware of being able too PC PP5.
Also, this is kinda off topic, but kinda on topic:
Found these for only a dollar!

They say PP5 on the bottle part, and the outside of the cap. so, these might be great for pouring agar. you could even mayube cut the tip of the nipple to where you could use it to pour, or just take the cap off to pour. Both sizes were only a dollar, with the taller one being 250mL.
Then there were these:

The bottle part had PP5 on the bottom, but the cap either didnt say or was the PET 1 kinda. cant remember. i dont think i wouldve taken a picture if it said 1 in the triangle, though, so i think it just didnt say.
Just wanted to let people in the US know that there are very similar mustard bottles at Walmart, as the bottles in OP.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: mupetmower]
#23505835 - 08/03/16 02:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the update. I will have to check those out! I think PP7 can be PC'd also.
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The number is just the recycling code. The pp is what you are looking for. It stands for polypropylene. Anything with pp on it should be good as far as i know.
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oh.. well the things with 7 only said "OTHER" where the PP is under the triangle with the 5 in the center of it. if 7 can be PC'd then there are quite a few bottles that could be really perfect for pouring agar and even blenderless LI.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: mupetmower]
#23506199 - 08/03/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The tesco value salad cream does not have a self sealing port, just a small hole. I wonder if water would readily drip from a needle though, if held upside down.
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“1” signifies that the product is made out of polyethylene terephthalate (PET) (beverage bottles, cups, other packaging, etc.) “2” signifies high-density polyethylene (HDPE) (bottles, cups, milk jugs, etc.) “3” signifies polyvinyl chloride (PVC) (pipes, siding, flooring, etc.) “4” signifies low-density polyethylene (LDPE) (plastic bags, six-pack rings, tubing, etc.) “5” signifies polypropylene (PP) (auto parts, industrial fibers, food containers, etc.) “6” signifies polystyrene (PS) (plastic utensils, Styrofoam, cafeteria trays, etc.) “7” signifies other plastics, such as acrylic, nylon, polycarbonate and polylactic acid (PLA).
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: blackout]
#23506257 - 08/03/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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hmmm wonder if any of those under 7, Other, are PC-able.. i guess since it is something that encompasses a lot of different types of material that it would probably be better off not to test it. since it could be one of many, many different types.
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Re: Squeezy Bottle Syringe [Re: mupetmower]
#23506411 - 08/03/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for that blackout!
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