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The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors
    #23486154 - 07/28/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

And human psychology is very much controlled by the unconscious mind.

Basically all of our problems on this planet are caused by human behaviors.  There are natural challenges and our corresponding decisions and behavior control the impact of the problem, usually.

This topic is very much against the agenda of the powers that be.  I've already tried to deal with that directly here and the thread was removed.  Probably because it challenged a covert group few even believe exists.  Okay, I can post here without doing that, but when they show up, there will be less ability to cope with them and the effect of their agenda.  That includes even being able to recognize reasonably that it exists.  Another subject, partly.

Hopefully viewers of this thread have seen the hundredth monkey thread I revived.  This is where I start with my knowledge of a 1962 book by 23 Japanese biologists which has been removed from global existence for the most part.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23467563#23467563

Note that the implications of the existing 1974 book and the events surrounding Lyle Watsons research are not addressed by those opposing the assertion of the existence of a 1962 book titled, "The Hundredth Monkey".

In conclusion, we basically we have elements in our world that do not want the public to know that the public dreams together.

An implication of that is that if you control what the public knows, then the direction of the public's dreaming may be controlled and any cultural effects in public behavior or performance can be mitigated or directed.  There is also the possibility that there are ancient techniques that cause dreamers to be controlled by specific groups dreaming in specific directions and information.  In that thread I make mention of a potential for that which I can expand on if someone wants to go there.

The reasons for this thread are vital to our species survival, as far as I can tell.  I've looked very closely for many years at all of the controlling issues to that survival, and the continuity of our species is threatened.  Science makes promises they do not fulfill.  The good fork science has done is real, but it cannot do everything within the timetables we are presented with.  Our behaviors will have to take up the slack.  We need to adapt.

Accordingly what ever helps us to adapt is a vital need.  That means that substances that help us with the resolve to make up our minds and act can also be vital.  Hence the importance of mushrooms and techniques of working with the human mind to get it to do what needs to be done to survive IS a tool of adaption.  Discussion that is unbridled upon HOW to effect this is VITAL to our survival, eventually.

This thread directly starts that discussion.

To begin, I will point out the current political situation where people are faced with increasingly serious world events logically need the most competent and ethical leadership possible.  What people are faced with is illegal, unethical performance by most divisions of politics.  This is not new and that time has passed with the influence of those unethical events, has considerably worsened the possibilities.

At this point I'm going to point out a fact that is generally in control of our part of the world.  The government for the united states of America.

Factually it is supposed to be controlled by the 1787 constitution, but after the civil war, the 1787 constitution was covertly abandoned.  Ever since that time the infiltration into the federal government has become broader, and less constitutional.

With these facts, the increasingly common attitude of hopelessness, that the government is so messed up, based in contemporary lawlessness, corrupt politics, unconstitutionality etc., that we are in a hopeless situation, is not reasonable or comprehensive to the facts of law in the constitution.  Those facts are not understood, which results in the hopelessness.

This thread is about a real reason and plan with lawful due process and strategy which can state citizens in control of their states, who can in turn control the federal government.

It appears all that in the way is the individual feelings of hopelessness, apathy or confusion that prevent focus upon the law of the land.  Therein is where the hundredth monkey effect could be in control.  And that effect may be enhanced greatly by the manipulation of information that the public is provided through media.

With all of that stated, this web page presents a summary of legal due process;

http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html

where the agreement and declaration here;

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/declarator-declare-constitutional-intent

are to be used.  You will see that there are only 2 signatures, and that petition has been up for about 2 weeks.  This, while the cited laws and process described on the web page is absolutely rock solid in every way.  In 4 years of presenting this process, not one person could show it is not valid constitutional law.  It does require 51% of 3/4 of the states to accomplish, but that is the only difficulty. 

Therein is the collective unconscious problem that I feel could easily be the 100th monkey effect working against our adaptation and survival, because of an informational environment specifically designed to create hopeless, apathetic masses that are incapable of independent thinking when it comes to comprehensive actions against the agent of the infiltrated government.

Seriously, think about it.  With as many people disgusted with politics, environmental issues, diplomacy, media manipulation etc. as there are, is it not reasonable to consider that many people would be willing to involve themselves with a lawful process requiring no real effort or expense that is also the ultimate function of the law of the land?  The constitution, the thing that is supposed to protect our rights and freedoms.

But no, they are not doing it.

The only real possibility is that people are indeed sheep.  We are quite completely controlled by our social surroundings.  And no sheep are stating they understand the law and that it is our law, and that there is due process and we can institute it.  With no sheep stating that in a social setting, no other sheep are willing to use their mind and a fairly small amount of time to independently evaluate the situation.  Instead, they are willing to see the government, its corrupt politics and corporations have their way with our world.

What kind of de evolution does this represent?  How did our populations get to this point?  Will it require a total collapse into martial law or chaos before people are willing to do something?  Of course by then, it is too late.

Now, if there is no participation in this thread, I will assume that the hundredth monkey effect is in control, and that each night, for whatever reason, all those reading are dreaming together a dream of hopelessness and acceptance of extinction.  And that tomorrow, the sociopolitical events they see will confirm the futility and they will feel justified in ignoring everything which might provide solution to the extensive problems they have become aware of in the last 16 years. 

And, in about 300 years, all of our descendants will know for certain, that within a few generations, all human life, and a great deal of the natural world will rapidly die off, and that is okay with everyone reading and going elsewhere because it is more entertaining, and short term entertainment is far more important than long term survival and overcoming extinction.


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You always want what you need, but do not always need what you want.

People that do not want what they need, have a problem.

Can we stop doing all of the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23486446 - 07/28/16 04:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This topic is very much against the agenda of the powers that be.




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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23486614 - 07/28/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This topic is very much against the agenda of the powers that be.




:rofl2:




Explain yourself please.


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23486689 - 07/28/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

One giant wall of text dotted with paranoia and not one single data point demonstrating the 100th Monkey.

You present nothing to debate.


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23486740 - 07/28/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Basically all of our problems on this planet are caused by human behaviors. 





I assume you define a "problem" as suffering?

This idea plagues humanity . . .

suffering = problem


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23486891 - 07/28/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Basically all of our problems on this planet are caused by human behaviors. 





I assume you define a "problem" as suffering?

This idea plagues humanity . . .

suffering = problem




Yes, that works.  But more significantly, extinction can be caused by problems.  Problems can cause potential suffering.  I do not suppose that extinction will occur without a great deal of suffering.


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23486919 - 07/28/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This topic is very much against the agenda of the powers that be.




:rofl2:



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One giant wall of text dotted with paranoia and not one single data point demonstrating the 100th Monkey.

You present nothing to debate.




Will you fail to explain yourself and also why Keyes wrote his 1974 book titled "The Hundredth Monkey" and Lyle Watson was attacked, while researchers like Rupert Sheldrake has theory that explain the hundredth monkey effect like morphogenetic fields and morphic resonance?

I do imply that our social political dilemma is a demonstration where cognitive potentials for understanding problems and solutions to them are over ridden by something.  That is many data points.

So is your agenda to make the possibility of dream state sharing go away?


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People that do not want what they need, have a problem.

Can we stop doing all of the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown] * 1
    #23486945 - 07/28/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

no
no
dream is real
co-dream happens
life is full of mysteries
explaining them wrongly (with bad theories) destroys both the mystery and the wonder in the face of an unexplained thing that happens.

you have to be able to enjoy something you can't explain.
you also have to not lie to get people to believe you and thus rob them of the joy of experiencing something inexplicable.


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23486978 - 07/28/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You reference Rupert Sheldrake, yet another debunked fraud? :rolleyes:

Is this a comedy club?


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23487751 - 07/28/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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You reference Rupert Sheldrake, yet another debunked fraud? :rolleyes:

Is this a comedy club?




Please show where and how Sheldrake is"debunked"


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23487772 - 07/28/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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But more significantly, extinction can be caused by problems.





So do you perceive death itself to be a problem?

Was the extinction of the dinosaurs a problem?

An obtuse reference, but the bumper stickers that say "Fuck Cancer" comes to mind.

I think we invent our problems.


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23487849 - 07/28/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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But more significantly, extinction can be caused by problems.





So do you perceive death itself to be a problem?

Was the extinction of the dinosaurs a problem?

An obtuse reference, but the bumper stickers that say "Fuck Cancer" comes to mind.

I think we invent our problems.




Death is not a problem.  It is the end of the life cycle.  It is when life cannot reestablish itself and continue the natural evolution of the cycle that there is a serious problem.

Dinosaurs were replaced in the natural changes with more adaptive species by epigenetics.  The extinction we are faced with is triggered by unnatural developments conceived by our cognitive abilities.

Yes, our behaviors create problems.  We invent behaviors in the idle time created by our cognitive efficiency in meeting our needs.


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You always want what you need, but do not always need what you want.

People that do not want what they need, have a problem.

Can we stop doing all of the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?


Edited by ChristopherABrown (07/29/16 09:02 AM)


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23490775 - 07/29/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The lack of explanation for WHY Americans are not supporting the fundaments of their constitution in a tangible way persists in supporting the notion that some collective unconscious fear is controlling Americans.

This petition is the true beginning of American states citizens controlling the federal government through their states.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/declarator-declare-constitutional-intent

But that represents the end of the power/comfort fantasy that those controlling the federal government have sold to the public for some generations.  An aspect defined here,

http://algoxy.com/law/lawfulpeacefulrevolution.html

Is " preparatory amendment", and the first thing it does is end the abridging of the purpose of free speech.  This means that Americans may learn some powerful truths that they have been induced to not want to know.  Again, unconscious fears appear to be in control, and it is widely pervasive.

It is very serious.  It is the root of "red pill, blue pill" dilemma because humanity eventually NEEDS to know.


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Can we stop doing all of the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23504100 - 08/02/16 11:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Death is not a problem.  It is the end of the life cycle.  It is when life cannot reestablish itself and continue the natural evolution of the cycle that there is a serious problem.





But 99.9999% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct.


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    #23504316 - 08/03/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Most ended up on my BBQ grill. :ohwell:


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    #23504605 - 08/03/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm in the mood for a Brontosaurus Shish Kabob.


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    #23506141 - 08/03/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Death is not a problem.  It is the end of the life cycle.  It is when life cannot reestablish itself and continue the natural evolution of the cycle that there is a serious problem.





But 99.9999% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct.




So does that mean its okay that your species will cause its own extinction and that of thousands of others because of its unconscious mental issues that are being covered up and neglected?


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23508074 - 08/04/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Because in the ene humans think nothing but our selfs. No matter what we say are actions are clear. There is no goodwill for any of us.I


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    #23508271 - 08/04/16 03:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

mammoth trunk was a delicacy


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    #23508794 - 08/04/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Because in the ene humans think nothing but our selfs. No matter what we say are actions are clear. There is no goodwill for any of us.I




That would be all or nothing thinking, a cognitive distortion.

The fact is that the leadership is close to what you describe, or the violent coercive elements of it enforce such thinking.

That being the case, it's everyone else's small minded ness, cowardice and ignorance that allows it.  Selfishness is the survival instinct allowed to dominate unreasonably, such as in greed.

All of that is unconscious control.  This while members like orgone conclusion and green red vines argue against the dominance of the unconscious mind with unaccountably.


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You always want what you need, but do not always need what you want.

People that do not want what they need, have a problem.

Can we stop doing all of the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: ChristopherABrown]
    #23509479 - 08/04/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So does that mean its okay that your species will cause its own extinction and that of thousands of others because of its unconscious mental issues that are being covered up and neglected?




No, just that extinction, just like death, is frequent and natural. 

I agree we should strive to be good stewards of all life and this planet.

Except mosquitoes, house flies, and HIV. I'm OK with promoting their extinction. 


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That would be all or nothing thinking, a cognitive distortion.





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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23515456 - 08/06/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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So does that mean its okay that your species will cause its own extinction and that of thousands of others because of its unconscious mental issues that are being covered up and neglected?




No, just that extinction, just like death, is frequent and natural. 

I agree we should strive to be good stewards of all life and this planet.

Except mosquitoes, house flies, and HIV. I'm OK with promoting their extinction. 


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That would be all or nothing thinking, a cognitive distortion.





:thumbup:




A funny thing about cognitive distortions.

They can be very efficient when there is understanding between two people about their meanings.

What if we could naturally, epigenetically create chemicals that exude from our skin that repelled Mosquitos and flies?  Would they be okay fhen?  And HIV seems like exactly the kind of thing that epigenetics might defeat eventually IF we could create enough mental impetus to trigger the right genes into cell production.

The oneness is a realm of intention.  Can we find new ways to source intention and use it to interpret information from our unconscious mind.  Interpretation of the complexity of our thoughts and feelings, or thoughts about feelings may be the key.  There is some good information in another thread here that can be applied to that task.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23481061/fpart/3/vc/1#23481061

There is no good evidence that we only dream in the present.  What if people in the future know this and are trying to dream back guidence to us so we may use it to enhance our survival.

I think I may have found evidence of this.


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People that do not want what they need, have a problem.

Can we stop doing all of the things we are doing that we do not want to do while still doing what we need to do?


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Re: The Significance of the 100th Monkey Effect-Human psychology controls behaviors [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23552965 - 08/18/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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No, just that extinction, just like death, is frequent and natural. 

I agree we should strive to be good stewards of all life and this planet.





And the adaptations of of like forms are frequent and natural also.  Logically, being good stewards of our own capacity to adapt will be foremost in our survival and evolution.

Tending to the unconscious mind which controls us, and out behaviors, which are critical to our ability to evolve, is the most logical activity we can conduct.

Accordingly, restoration of the global hemp economy that worked on local levels and the promotion of effective mental health care to accelerate our ability to adapt, are the most logical and natural activities of a species like ours that is going to survive.

Visit this faebook page and like it:-)

https://www.facebook.com/Cannament-Initiatives-968328873263539/


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