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El-Duderino
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All hope is Lost
#23485912 - 07/28/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So here is my current situation, a foaf has 8 pftek jars that have gone smoother/ looked healthier than any of his previous attempts! He credits this to the fact that during his previous incubations, the winter weather has kept the ambient temp to ~ 68f. Now, the summer weather has been keeping his room temp to a pretty constant 86f. The colonization was lighting fast and the cakes oh so white. Now birthed in his sgfc he cannot get the temp down at all and has no A/C. Its very humid where he lives and has no problem maintaining 99% with 5-6 mistings/fannings a day. 2- 2Ft 6500k fluorescent provide plenty of lumens for his cakes. Birthed exactly a week ago and they have count 'em 0 pins. Could that all be equated to the fruiting temp being too high? Should he give up because buying and running an A/C is just not practical for him.
**he will give pics soon**
Edited by El-Duderino (07/28/16 02:00 PM)
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morty422
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Registered: 07/06/16
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I would say to just be patient. One week with no pins is not enough time to start worrying!
This hobby is all about patience!
You say your fruiting temperature is 86F(ish)? I have fruited a few grows indoors in a room with no A/C. Temperatures were in the 85F range... I got 3-4 flushes out of all the cakes without any issue. The best way to make sure contaminates stay away from your grow is to keep the air exchange high. Stagnant air means contaminates are near!
If you have these items checked off-you will be just fine: -Good Fresh Air Exchange -High Humidity -Properly constructed SGFC -Indirect sunlight or a 6500k light on for 12/12 or 24 hour.
I would say you are jumping the gun a bit!
Also, search a bit more next time and you will find that this question has been answered MANY times by people in your situation.
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mupetmower
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1: it can take two weeks for pins to form sometimes.
2: you do not want your jars colonizing at 86F.. 68F is totally fine, and was not the problem for previous fails. temps higher than 80F are excellent for contams and bacteria to thrive.
3: you dont want or need a constant 99% rH. a fluctuating rH is beneficial. you want the surface of the cakes to have tiny beads of moisture n them, and when those evap, you mist again. that along with the SGFC(which i hope you are using for your cakes) will generate the proper micro-climate on the cake's surface. and remember, fanning is not the same as FAE.
But yeah, you will want to do something about those temps, if you can.
Hopefully the cakes are healthy and dont have a ton of bacteria in them from the high temps.
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Bobabouy
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I don't think you even have any friends.
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Kush_Zombie
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Re: All hope is Lost [Re: Bobabouy]
#23485970 - 07/28/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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He has one friend and he's the friend of that friend.
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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El-Duderino
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mupetmower said: 1: it can take two weeks for pins to form sometimes.
2: you do not want your jars colonizing at 86F.. 68F is totally fine, and was not the problem for previous fails. temps higher than 80F are excellent for contams and bacteria to thrive.
3: you dont want or need a constant 99% rH. a fluctuating rH is beneficial. you want the surface of the cakes to have tiny beads of moisture n them, and when those evap, you mist again. that along with the SGFC(which i hope you are using for your cakes) will generate the proper micro-climate on the cake's surface. and remember, fanning is not the same as FAE.
But yeah, you will want to do something about those temps, if you can.
Hopefully the cakes are healthy and dont have a ton of bacteria in them from the high temps.
Dont think you understood the part where my one foaf doesnt have control of his temps in the current living/financial situation
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Kush_Zombie
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Quote:
El-Duderino said:
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mupetmower said: 1: it can take two weeks for pins to form sometimes.
2: you do not want your jars colonizing at 86F.. 68F is totally fine, and was not the problem for previous fails. temps higher than 80F are excellent for contams and bacteria to thrive.
3: you dont want or need a constant 99% rH. a fluctuating rH is beneficial. you want the surface of the cakes to have tiny beads of moisture n them, and when those evap, you mist again. that along with the SGFC(which i hope you are using for your cakes) will generate the proper micro-climate on the cake's surface. and remember, fanning is not the same as FAE.
But yeah, you will want to do something about those temps, if you can.
Hopefully the cakes are healthy and dont have a ton of bacteria in them from the high temps.
Dont think you understood the part where my one foaf doesnt have control of his temps in the current living/financial situation
Don't be a faggot. He said do something about the temps IF YOU CAN.
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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El-Duderino
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Bobabouy said: I don't think you even have any friends.
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Kush_Zombie said:
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El-Duderino said:
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mupetmower said: 1: it can take two weeks for pins to form sometimes.
2: you do not want your jars colonizing at 86F.. 68F is totally fine, and was not the problem for previous fails. temps higher than 80F are excellent for contams and bacteria to thrive.
3: you dont want or need a constant 99% rH. a fluctuating rH is beneficial. you want the surface of the cakes to have tiny beads of moisture n them, and when those evap, you mist again. that along with the SGFC(which i hope you are using for your cakes) will generate the proper micro-climate on the cake's surface. and remember, fanning is not the same as FAE.
But yeah, you will want to do something about those temps, if you can.
Hopefully the cakes are healthy and dont have a ton of bacteria in them from the high temps.
Dont think you understood the part where my one foaf doesnt have control of his temps in the current living/financial situation
Don't be a faggot. He said do something about the temps IF YOU CAN.
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El-Duderino
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Re: All hope is Lost [Re: Bobabouy]
#23486009 - 07/28/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bobabouy said: I don't think you even have any friends.
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Kush_Zombie
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Registered: 10/22/14
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It's not like you were putting any legit advice you were given to good use anyways you just whined about how you couldn't control your temperature even though that was just a fraction of what he was saying.
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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dankington
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I hope you understand you got sarcasm for using foaf. If you can't man up to it, don't do it. We don't play those silly games like SWIM here. That offers you no legal protection anyways.
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Kush_Zombie
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someone who is me
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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theGODSmademedoit

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You need to wait patient you still have another week. Most times for cubes perfect temps dont even exist ive fruited in anything from 60 to 85 with decent flushes. You could do better with perfect enviroment control but cubes are so resilient they grow. so id never say all hope is lost growing cubes at least.
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LogicaL Chaos
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Pinning can take up to a whole month. Its a slow process.
Typically pinning starts at 2-3 weeks in. be patient.
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morty422
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I was not prepared for that picture of Robert Downey Jr....
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mupetmower
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Kush_Zombie said:
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El-Duderino said:
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mupetmower said: 1: it can take two weeks for pins to form sometimes.
2: you do not want your jars colonizing at 86F.. 68F is totally fine, and was not the problem for previous fails. temps higher than 80F are excellent for contams and bacteria to thrive.
3: you dont want or need a constant 99% rH. a fluctuating rH is beneficial. you want the surface of the cakes to have tiny beads of moisture n them, and when those evap, you mist again. that along with the SGFC(which i hope you are using for your cakes) will generate the proper micro-climate on the cake's surface. and remember, fanning is not the same as FAE.
But yeah, you will want to do something about those temps, if you can.
Hopefully the cakes are healthy and dont have a ton of bacteria in them from the high temps.
Dont think you understood the part where my one foaf doesnt have control of his temps in the current living/financial situation
Don't be a faggot. He said do something about the temps IF YOU CAN.
thanks for saying that.
-------------------- -The wise man never stops seeking knowledge.
-I wanna feel the change consume me, feel the outside turning in. I wanna feel the metamorphosis and cleansing I've endured within.
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