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Invisibletealeaf
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FDA Approves Synthetic Weed * 1
    #23486004 - 07/28/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fda-approves-synthetic-weed/ar-BBuZxmG?li=BBnb7Kz

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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has given its stamp of approval on synthetic weed for the first time. Earlier this month, the FDA approved the liquid formulation of dronabinol — a synthetic form of the psychoactive compound in cannabis: tetrahydrocannabinol (THC).

Popular Science reports that the synthetic liquid formulation will be sold under the name of Syndros and will be categorized as a Schedule III substance under the Controlled Substances Act. Falling under Schedule III means the liquid formula of dronabinol is for medical use, with low chances of abuse and addiction. In comparison, natural cannabis is classified as Schedule I, which makes it federally illegal and a substance considered to have a high potential for abuse.

Dronabinol has been available since the mid-1980s in a pill form (sold commonly under the brand Marinol) and has been prescribed to treat nausea and vomiting caused by chemotherapy and other cancer medications. What separates Syndros from Marinol is the formula and being a liquid means Syndros might be easier for patients to absorb.

“It is a liquid that is easy-to-swallow and allows for the dosage to be titrated to clinical effect,” says Insys Therapeutics, the parent company manufacturing both Marinol and Syndros, in a press release.

Marinol and Syndros are approved for treating chemotherapy induced nausea and weight loss related to AIDS. But there are some experts who are wary of synthetic cannabis, as it may have limitations. Dr. Perry Solomon, a medical marijuana physician and chief medical officer of HelloMD, told Motherboard that synthetic marijuana does not have the “entourage effect” where all the chemicals in the plant react with each other.

"I think it is really important to understand the difference between a preparation that has gone through clinical development and one that hasn't,” told Catherine Jacobson, director of clinical research at Canadian medical cannabis company Tilray, to Motherboard. “We would like to do research on whole plant extracts. One of the holdups is the lack of safe, reliable, consistent products that are not pharmaceutical products."




So you can pay big pharma for synthetic weed or your can grow you own and go to prison......


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: tealeaf] * 4
    #23486053 - 07/28/16 02:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Go fuck yourselves FDA


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23486066 - 07/28/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Robot drugs for robots


Edited by Konyap (07/28/16 02:55 PM)


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 3
    #23486145 - 07/28/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Kush_Zombie said:
Go fuck yourselves FDA




No, they deserve worse:



You know your country is fucked when something is schedule 1 in plant form but schedule 3 in a pure pharmaceutical form....
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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: musiclover420] * 2
    #23486328 - 07/28/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23486794 - 07/28/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What the fuck?! This is a disgrace. These people are disgusting


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23487330 - 07/28/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't call it synthetic weed.  Weed has hundreds of chemicals that create the effect we all know.  I have read that pure THC is terrible.


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: tealeaf]
    #23487757 - 07/28/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:billymaythumbup:


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: Connoisseur]
    #23487801 - 07/28/16 11:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The irony is so thick that I hope it forms a knife and stabs them to death. I'm growing more and more pissed off with every new bullshit i hear related to these sentient feces of an organism.


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: morbiddoctor]
    #23488955 - 07/29/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not much irony. The THC-based drug meets the legal requirements under the food drug and cosmetic act to be approved, MJ doesn't.


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: badchad] * 1
    #23488959 - 07/29/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yep, there's no irony in that at all :doublefacepalm:


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23488968 - 07/29/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Kush_Zombie said:
Yep, there's no irony in that at all :doublefacepalm:




One of the requirements for a drug approval is a "known and reproducible chemistry."  This makes sense doesn't it? If you're taking a drug, it's nice that its always the same.  The Advil you buy in California is identical to the Advil you buy in New York.  It's also the same every time you buy it.

There are hundreds of different strains of MJ. By no means is its chemistry "known and reproducible."

This is just one aspect of the approval process.


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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge.  It is an indellible experience; it is forever known.  I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.

Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: badchad]
    #23489028 - 07/29/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I believe the requirements is what is being called ironic...


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23489042 - 07/29/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Kush_Zombie said:
I believe the requirements is what is being called ironic...




A law requiring an approved drug to be pure and consistent is "ironic?"

I guess I don't follow.:shrug:


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: badchad]
    #23489052 - 07/29/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Pure and consistant..

:ilold:

I guess you don't follow either :shrug:


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What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: badchad]
    #23489207 - 07/29/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

badchad said:
Quote:

Kush_Zombie said:
Yep, there's no irony in that at all :doublefacepalm:




There are hundreds of different strains of MJ. By no means is its chemistry "known and reproducible."




Who cares, if it works it works. The proof is in the pudding. :tmckenna:


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23492411 - 07/30/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What a misleading title! I was thinking JWH-018. Marinol's been around forever and has been Schedule 3 IIRC for years!!!

So whats the difference? They made a new formulation that is in liquid form instead of capsules? Wow.

Btw, i really didnt like marinol. I think the fact that its just like 20mg of thc, no cbd, no turpenes....its kinda crap compared to even just a regular dispensary candy (which tend to be like 300mg thc!)

The thing i dont get is MARINOL IS NOT NEW! Wtf!?

Im sure all that pure thc and medical quality shatter, the legit stuff with no pesticides, still "not safe because its not from the FDA".


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: badchad] * 1
    #23494081 - 07/30/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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badchad said:
A law requiring an approved drug to be pure and consistent is "ironic?"

I guess I don't follow.:shrug:




You are saying cannabis is schedule I because it is not pure and consistent? Does that fit the requirements for schedule I classification? You're right, cannabis shouldn't be an FDA approved drug, it shouldn't be scheduled in any way, you fucking tool.


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Re: FDA Approves Synthetic Weed [Re: Coolwhip GA]
    #23495308 - 07/31/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

There is no reason to believe that production of pharms, outsourced to third world countries, is any more ethical than recalled toys and other counterfeit merch.

Arbitrary, legal hurdles are for purposes of mercantilism, in which goods are services are produced at nominal expense and sold for maximum markup.


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