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My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity 2
#23485692 - 07/28/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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deep within the depths of space, exists a creature capable of turning a black hole inside out. When I first came to the realization of this creature's existence it filled me with terror and dread, but also awe and astonishment.
The creature's name is Zeptra. My contact with Zeptra was the absolute pinnacle of what could only be described as my conscious time frame. Because as you see, consciousness is inherently a time-based system.
There have been many of those throughout history who have tried to deduce the mechanisms behind consciousness and universal physics. Each step we take forward leads only to an infinite realm of questions and confusion.
When stuck in the qunadary of trying to differentiate reality from speculation, we come to see a truth far greater than anything that can be understood or grasped logically. When we look out into the reaches of space, we see only what we are capable of seeing. Truth is said to be objective, but that's the furthest thing from the truth.
Anyway, this creature came to me in a dream. They communicated non-verbally through some form of telepathy or psionics. This creature isn't one being but it's the accumulation of many beings. It's the accumulation of all conscious thought throughout the time-space continuum of our shared realities.
An individual cannot possibly bare the burden of an entire spectrum of shared realities. This creature exists as a memory bank for all thoughts that have been lost throughout time and space. This creature exists in a form isolated from the rest of the universe. This creature cannot possibly be interwoven into the fabric of our existence without causing mass calamity.
When Zeptra communicated, I could feel a sensation of comforting stillness; as if I were just about to die, or just about to be born. It's nothing out of the ordinary. I mean, everybody does that stuff. We have moments of innebriation that makes us feel absolute contentedness. What was strange about this creature is that the more time passed, the more the feeling transformed into despair and terror. I can't recall the last time I've been so afraid.
The most important thing that was said to me was that Zeptra will one day destroy the universe. It was destined to happen since the beginning of time. Zeptra will turn the universe inside-out. And those objects which we call black holes will grow to a size so immense that it'll swallow the universe whole. This is just the mechanism of the only reality that is real. We can try to understand it or grasp it, but nothing will change the workings of our reality. Zeptra has no inherent intent. Zeptra only wants to keep things in motion. Zeptra can not be convinced that anything is worth lasting. Because for Zeptra, time is just its play thing... and we are the children of its playground.
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Envix]
#23485713 - 07/28/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmm, very interesting indeed

So do you think the entities people claim to communicate with on psychedelics (DMT in particular) are actually just a manifestation of this collective entity you refer to as Zeptra?
Seems to make sense
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Envix]
#23485744 - 07/28/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i understand well that words are limiting factors, especially when speaking of ideas seemingly outside the realm that those words are created/used in, but i have to point this out:
you start by saying this "zeptra" is not an individual entity, but then proceed to talk as if it is, despite claiming it is a summation of the entirety of THIS universe (whether or not you believe in multiple universes/dimensions).
as well "This creature cannot possibly be interwoven into the fabric of our existence without causing mass calamity." if it is not interwoven, how is it a summation of all?
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Envix] 3
#23485745 - 07/28/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This was my last encounter with an ET.
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: demiu5]
#23485766 - 07/28/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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demiu5 said: i understand well that words are limiting factors, especially when speaking of ideas seemingly outside the realm that those words are created/used in, but i have to point this out:
you start by saying this "zeptra" is not an individual entity, but then proceed to talk as if it is, despite claiming it is a summation of the entirety of THIS universe (whether or not you believe in multiple universes/dimensions).
as well "This creature cannot possibly be interwoven into the fabric of our existence without causing mass calamity." if it is not interwoven, how is it a summation of all?
What I meant by that was that it can not become materially manifested. Our place in time/space is just a pinpoint on an entire canvas.
If they were to manifest themselves as a physical entity, it would be as if a painter's hand were to somehow become part of the painting it's creating.
Zeptra exists outside of this reality, because this reality we experience is like a car moving on a race track. You can't get inside the car unless the car stops. The car will never stop, and Zeptra will never stop moving it. Otherwise, it will just cease to be what it is.
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OhMrJohnson said: Hmm, very interesting indeed

So do you think the entities people claim to communicate with on psychedelics (DMT in particular) are actually just a manifestation of this collective entity you refer to as Zeptra?
Seems to make sense
yes
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Envix]
#23485775 - 07/28/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Envix said:
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demiu5 said: i understand well that words are limiting factors, especially when speaking of ideas seemingly outside the realm that those words are created/used in, but i have to point this out:
you start by saying this "zeptra" is not an individual entity, but then proceed to talk as if it is, despite claiming it is a summation of the entirety of THIS universe (whether or not you believe in multiple universes/dimensions).
as well "This creature cannot possibly be interwoven into the fabric of our existence without causing mass calamity." if it is not interwoven, how is it a summation of all?
What I meant by that was that it can not become materially manifested. Our place in time/space is just a pinpoint on an entire canvas.
If they were to manifest themselves as a physical entity, it would be as if a painter's hand were to somehow become part of the painting it's creating.
but if WE (all parts of this universe/frequency) are made up of OR somehow integrally composed of this "Zeptra", then it IS physically manifest in this universe
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: demiu5]
#23485824 - 07/28/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I suppose you're right. I feel like the only way we can comprehend or describe an "entity" or sorts is to surmise it as an individual. Although it is not an individual. It is a collective. It just appeared to me in a form that is singular.
I'm not saying this is the force that is driving the unfolding of the universe. It is not "god". I'm saying it's more like a memory bank or a garbage collector. It accumulates conscious experiences throughout time and uses it to fuel its energy. It uses the energy to keep time/space in motion and generates a feedback loop of continual continuity.
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Envix]
#23485835 - 07/28/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've had an idea like this bouncing around in my head for the last few weeks. Zeptra sounds like a soul eater, the soul eater. I've been pondering about whether or not this would be possible with your spirit when you die. Theres always talk of returning to being god or whatever when you die. I wonder if this is one of them. Although the idea gets a lot of people all giddy I dont feel like it would necessarily be beneficial to one to become part of that. Im under the impression you'd be recycled. Since thats what this place seems to do best, and it does it with apathetic brutality.
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Envix]
#23485859 - 07/28/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Envix said: I suppose you're right. I feel like the only way we can comprehend or describe an "entity" or sorts is to surmise it as an individual. Although it is not an individual. It is a collective. It just appeared to me in a form that is singular.
you're spot on here. while, we as individual humans are considered an "entity" we are [also] a world/universe for all the flora/fauna living inside each and every one of us. without the bacteria in our gut, we would not be
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I'm not saying this is the force that is driving the unfolding of the universe. It is not "god". I'm saying it's more like a memory bank or a garbage collector. It accumulates conscious experiences throughout time and uses it to fuel its energy. It uses the energy to keep time/space in motion and generates a feedback loop of continual continuity.
certainly an interesting thought
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: demiu5]
#23486106 - 07/28/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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In a way it reminds me of the gravemind from halo, or one of lovecrafts unfathomable gods. I've seen strange shit like this in my dreams too. I feel part of it has to do with our increasing emotional mass on earth, and our increasing stores of knowledge. I've had dreams about parallel worlds and world lines, psionic communication, OBE's. It always felt like something was showing me something. Reality itself is unexplained, so it wouldnt surprise to find out this is some sort of midworld or lower reality thought into being by psionic entities or something similar. And if that was true, it would probably be based on similar relations to what we experience. Death and rebirth on higher orders of existence. Zeptra's just a cog in the machine.
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 2
#23486131 - 07/28/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The last time I smoked DMT I came very, very close to breaking through the membrane and I actually felt my consciousness come in contact with some sort of cosmological being which seems eerily similar to the entity described in the OP
Upon realizing that I had come into contact with something I could not possibly begin to comprehend, I felt a very strange mix of emotions that I cannot logically explain.. I felt extremely euphoric and blissful but simultaneously I felt very nervous and unsettled.. The sensation/vibe of being in contact with this entity/entities was very, very ominous, almost bleak in a way but not quite
I don't know if what I perceived was the same creature as described in the OP but it felt extremely ancient and powerful.. And the scariest part of it is I could tell this creature was aware of my presence, and I felt it trying to suck me "in" even as the DMT began to wear off
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23486134 - 07/28/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's what philosophers call "the first mover", and there's many different names for it and God is also one of them.
What you describe is essentially "the collective" of energy in our realm. Can be considered God.
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Envix]
#23486135 - 07/28/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Very intriguing.
So this dream, was it the only dream u had that night? were u lucid? was it a very vivid dream? How long did the dream feel like it lasted?
Mind blowning stuff Envix
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23486159 - 07/28/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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the last time i "brokethrough" on n,n-dmt i found myself in a place/experience almost identical to sleep paralysis. the feeling of that "place" was raw isolation, loneliness, cold and dark...but there was something there; something that did not want my presence there.
that being said, i've had various other "encounters." one being only a low-level frequency change, as i was still in the living room as a group of beings emerged through the wall. they were as equally intrigued with me, as i was with them.
another was a blueish, metallic (similar to rock, embedded with "gems") and a large/fat being greeted me. it seemed like a being of meditation, and was very accepting of my intrusion, trying to communicate
most of the paths i traveled and destinations arrived at had no "entities" but were merely landscapes to be explored
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: demiu5]
#23486171 - 07/28/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've encountered entity's on DMT DPT and Salvia
Never has it been more than a passing glance or brief exhange of indescribable context 
I write it off as brain static. With enough random signals you're bound to encounter things that resemble conscious beings.
I don't believe any of these beings actually consciously communicate to us through drugs or sleep. But it's possible
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: ModestMouse]
#23486195 - 07/28/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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But suppose being on super high doses of psychedelics temporarily destroys/neutralizes the psychic filter which shields our brains from certain phenomenon that is always present?
That hypothesis would imply that whatever it is on the other side of that natural filter is something tangible, something real.. Just because we can't perceive it normally doesn't mean that it's just a figment of our imagination, and although I won't deny that is a solid possibility.. It just doesn't seem to explain the fact that whatever this entity is, it was most certainly separate from me.. perhaps a part of my subconscious but definitely not a part of my conscious mind
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#23486215 - 07/28/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had a similar experience last time I dosed mushrooms. During the peak of it I laid down, and I could feel myself wobbling between this reality and the background that powered it. There was never any entities, in fact it was totally devoid of anything aside from this ethereal wall, which I was popping out of. On the screen was the collective perception of an innumerable amount of beings. To me it felt like experience is what powered it, and we were simply split off from the main source momentarily to gather it, to experience it. It felt symbiotic, and well intentioned, but I was totally aware of my mortality and my supposed purpose. Which left me feeling uneasy in the back of my mind. Something I couldnt shake off for the rest of the trip. Theres definitely something going on, there has to be. These themes are all to common too altered states of mind.
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Envix]
#23486235 - 07/28/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Envix!
Good stuff.
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23486272 - 07/28/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The brain is capable of grand imaginations sober Imagine what it creates on powerful psychedelics
I'm not saying I don't believe you I think it's created by our brain though Fragments of our personality Twisted and warped until we think we are experiencing something else entirely
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Re: My encounter with an extraterrestrial entity [Re: ModestMouse]
#23486338 - 07/28/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hmmmmm
What if this Zeptra is actually just a psychological manifestation of all the sentient brains in the Universe?
That would imply that it really is just a figment of our collective imaginations, but it also implies that it is collectively a figment of the imaginations of every single sentient being in the entire Universe
Just try to comprehend how immensely intricate such an entity would be.. An entity composed of trillions upon trillions of minds.. the subconscious energy this proposed entity would possess is essentially infinite, and perhaps that is what makes it so hard to quantify or explain rationally.. How does one use rationality to explain something that is by its very nature completely irrational?
The answer is that one does not.. As Envix said, such an entity would not exist in our physical dimension.. It would transcend time and space, being that it is made up of all subconscious energy throughout the Universe
The existence of such an entity could essentially never be proven or disproven.. But it does make for quite remarkable brain-food
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