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bodhisatta 
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picture on left looks like tell tale bacteria issues.
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Terpfreak
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I've had much better luck taking much less precaution, but this was also in a personal home vs now where it's an apartment building where they cover mold with caulk and killz. Sad to think that my mistake wasn't respecting the sanitation enough.
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Boogieman47
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You want it to colonize at most 80℉ if possible 73-77 when I first started I had seen colonization was at higher temps if they are cubes it's bullshit and you will give contams a great climate to Fuck your shit up
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Terpfreak
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Photo update- more bacteria?? the color of whatever is growing is all white, and the substrate is looking a little dry. What can I do at this point to help the humidity? Is that necessary? Thanks.
this last one is the one that worries me
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Boogieman47
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They all look a bit funky I would toss for sure the second third and last ones and a substrate is like horse shit, coir stuff like that if you soaked your wbs for 12-24 hours you should be good on moisture ... did you inoculate with a syringe? And what about your PC cycle? I think you should look into agar if you wanna be successful it really isn't as hard as people think and it make your syringe go forever and always is clean as long as you do everything right Edit : the second pic I might let ride but the last two definitely are bad and you wanna toss them
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Terpfreak
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noob47 said: They all look a bit funky I would toss for sure the second third and last ones and a substrate is like horse shit, coir stuff like that if you soaked your wbs for 12-24 hours you should be good on moisture ... did you inoculate with a syringe? And what about your PC cycle? I think you should look into agar if you wanna be successful it really isn't as hard as people think and it make your syringe go forever and always is clean as long as you do everything right Edit : the second pic I might let ride but the last two definitely are bad and you wanna toss them
Syringe and PC for sixty min at fifteen psi . The jars sat for two days before being knocked up. Thanks I'll look into agar.
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Boogieman47
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This is probably one of easiest for beginners I started with it and still use it https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19208976 ... I would PC for 90 minutes just to be safe I've never used wbs so IDK I use whole oats and PC for over two hours
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Terpfreak
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Thanks man there's so many links to wade through. Anything that will increase my chances send my way .
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Boogieman47
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Haha tell me about it ... no worries good luck
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herrenvolk


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Noob47, can you explain what exactly is that is wrong with those jars? It looks like clean myc growth to me. Maybe the slightest indication of wetspot, but could just be water moisture.
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Terpfreak
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herrenvolk said: Noob47, can you explain what exactly is that is wrong with those jars? It looks like clean myc growth to me. Maybe the slightest indication of wetspot, but could just be water moisture.
The lighting plays games with the eye for sure. Here's some more recent pictures. All growth is pure white. There are spots of wbs that are a little more "wet" than others because the grain was shaken once the jars hit the cool side of warm, plus there was nothing at the bottom to hold water until needed. ( assuming this is necessary from experience with cannabis please correct me if I'm wrong).
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Terpfreak
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Also does the lack of spawn in the other jars mean they're already been taken over by unwanted guests ? They were knocked and incubated together.
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Boogieman47
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Ya definitely looks better there, I have pictures that look ffunny alsoo ... I'm not real sure what you're asking about with the water ? And as for some being slower it was ms so it could be a slower colonizer as long as you don't get black or green or lots of yellow and even with yellow you could still fruit but just depends on how they smell .. I've never had luck with inoculating straight into jars from syringe so I can't really speak on much experience there
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Terpfreak
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Thanks and thanks for the link for agar.
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ErikXL45
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Listen I'm for sure a noob but these are things I've picked up on-
The pin mold they're talking about is supposed to be identifiable by the black round tips you can see.
You generally want to keep the temps you're letting your grain colonize in around room temp 72° because the internal temp of your jars may be higher from the mycelium growing. Around 80° it gets easier for shit that's harmful to grow.
Looking at the last pics you have I think the stuff people may think is bacteria could just be those lighter colored kernels making your myc look yellow. Personally I'd just let them finish and take a good pic and repost.
For filters if you don't wanna wait for shipping online or mess with trying not to melt polyfill then look up easy felt or ez felt. You can get a sheet of it at Walmart for a buck and cut out probably 50 filters.
Also I can't say how sterile a cannigrow environment is- but I'd guess it's probably still riskier than what you'd encounter if you bought the stuff to build a still air box. At it's heart it's just a larger clear plastic tote you cut a couple holes in. Even though I'm sure I'm not 100% in my practice I just started messing with agar in a sab and I have yet to spot any contams on my pasty plates.
Again I want to stress I'm a noob. I hope I didn't steer you wrong with any of that info. Things I remember off the top of my head though and in some cases even had limited success. I hope this helps a little though. Good luck
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Terpfreak
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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: ErikXL45]
#23494735 - 07/31/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ErikXL45 said: Listen I'm for sure a noob but these are things I've picked up on-
The pin mold they're talking about is supposed to be identifiable by the black round tips you can see.
You generally want to keep the temps you're letting your grain colonize in around room temp 72° because the internal temp of your jars may be higher from the mycelium growing. Around 80° it gets easier for shit that's harmful to grow.
Looking at the last pics you have I think the stuff people may think is bacteria could just be those lighter colored kernels making your myc look yellow. Personally I'd just let them finish and take a good pic and repost.
For filters if you don't wanna wait for shipping online or mess with trying not to melt polyfill then look up easy felt or ez felt. You can get a sheet of it at Walmart for a buck and cut out probably 50 filters.
Also I can't say how sterile a cannigrow environment is- but I'd guess it's probably still riskier than what you'd encounter if you bought the stuff to build a still air box. At it's heart it's just a larger clear plastic tote you cut a couple holes in. Even though I'm sure I'm not 100% in my practice I just started messing with agar in a sab and I have yet to spot any contams on my pasty plates.
Again I want to stress I'm a noob. I hope I didn't steer you wrong with any of that info. Things I remember off the top of my head though and in some cases even had limited success. I hope this helps a little though. Good luck
Thank you thank you! any info will be gobbled up As of this morning all jars are showing signs of healthy myc. Thanks everyone for your input. My questions ARE answered but PLEASE add as much info as you would like to share!
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Boogieman47
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8468463 here is a link with alot of rogerrabbits notes it's got a shit ton of good info on different areas of cultivation
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Inocuole
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It's also got a bunch of outdated info, and tons of it is out of context. I wouldn't necessarily refer back to that one for a whole lot.
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Terpfreak
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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Inocuole]
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Would there be any benefit in 24 hour light? Not direct? But sitting it inside a tent or closet somewhere near a fluorescent grow light , would that do any good? (Question is directed toward colinization stage)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Noob problems ? [Re: Inocuole]
#23495359 - 07/31/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: and tons of it is out of context.
This is actually a bigger issue than many realize. I see it all the time where people are quoting others and the species is wrong, or some other key piece of the puzzle. I might tell someone it's okay to scratch a Ganoderma substrate that got dried out but take that out if context and apply it to cubes and suddenly it's bad info.
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