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EthyWoo
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#23485100 - 07/28/16 09:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So, I have a few simple questions. Tomorrow I am getting 1.6g of psilocybe subaeruginosa for $50. I have had mushies once before, maybe a very low level 2 on 1.2g of an unknown powdered substance.
Questions -Does $50 for 1.5g of psilocybe subaeruginosa sound responsible? I'm in Australia if that informs your answer.
- What can I expect from such a dose? I don't need exacts. Round about a and stories of similar amounts will do.
- I wanted to do them with a friend, ideally I'd reach level 3 and he would cruise at level 2, if that isn't possible I'd want a high level 2 and he could get a level 1. Are either of these outcomes likely with 1.5g of psilocybe subaeruginosa? Or should I just take them on my lonesome?
Also the dealer said 1.5g is a "dose". Is this a legit thing?
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23485305 - 07/28/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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$50 for 1.5grams of subs are a rip off considering you can find them for free in Aussie land. I know your drug prices are more expensive because of importing them but the mushrooms you have don't need to be imported so I feel like he ripped you off.
Learn how to find them yourself.
As for dose, it's not really allowed to talk about but 1.5g of subs is probably around 2-3g of cubes equivilent so it's just about one dose, don't think you could split it and still get off.
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One that's way to much to be paying for any shrooms. Two that's only enough for one person.
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23485506 - 07/28/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're asking if "dose" is a legit thing? Like the word dose? Uh ya it is lol that's how much you're taking..the dosage.
As for price it's a rip off. It should be no more than $25/30 (since they're not cubensis) but even that is very pricey.
If you're shooting for a level 3 then I would suggest 2 grams. You might only get a high level 2 from 1.5
If he really is trying to charge you that much though I would highly suspect if he's even trustworthy and if those are even real subaeruginosas.
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23485558 - 07/28/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh ya and I highly doubt that "unknown powder" that you took was psilocybin.
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AuroraBorealis88 said: Oh ya and I highly doubt that "unknown powder" that you took was psilocybin.
I've gotten powdered mushrooms from a guy before and it was legit. I think that's what OP is referring to rather than pure psilocybin.
That was some nice PE too. Took an eighth of dried shrooms, soaked an eighth of the PE powder in lemon juice, drank that. Had THE most intense trip I've had on anything to date.
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Ive asked my guy for powdered mush before so he gives me the shake. Its easier to lemontek that way
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AuroraBorealis88 said: Oh ya and I highly doubt that "unknown powder" that you took was psilocybin.
I've gotten powdered mushrooms from a guy before and it was legit. I think that's what OP is referring to rather than pure psilocybin.
That was some nice PE too. Took an eighth of dried shrooms, soaked an eighth of the PE powder in lemon juice, drank that. Had THE most intense trip I've had on anything to date. 
Yeah but he said "unknown powder" which is fishy
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Maybe  Ask OP
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EthyWoo said:
Questions -Does $50 for 1.5g of psilocybe subaeruginosa sound responsible? I'm in Australia if that informs your answer.
I know drug prices in Australia in general are pricier than other areas, but that's ridiculously over priced....especially since they can be harvested/picked growing wild.
Around here (California) such a dose would go for $5 to $10, if not free since it's such a small amount. I harvest wild mushrooms around my area and usually hand out handfuls of them to random people at festivals free of charge, just because they're so plentiful. That's pretty lame if someone is picking them and charging you $50 for a mere 1.5g . I personally wouldn't pay such a price, I wouldn't pay any more than $10 at most.
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- What can I expect from such a dose? I don't need exacts. Round about a and stories of similar amounts will do.
I haven't consumed that species, but from what I hear they're right around or slightly weaker than ps cyans, which is the species I consume most often....and 1.5g would give me a full on trip/experience, though not necessarily a very deep one, I'd certainly be tripping though . I don't really know how to describe such things in words , and everyone responds slightly different or has different ideas of what a "deep" trip or a "mild" trip is.
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- I wanted to do them with a friend, ideally I'd reach level 3 and he would cruise at level 2, if that isn't possible I'd want a high level 2 and he could get a level 1. Are either of these outcomes likely with 1.5g of psilocybe subaeruginosa? Or should I just take them on my lonesome?
Also the dealer said 1.5g is a "dose". Is this a legit thing?
If you split 1.5g with a friend, I don't suspect that dose will take you and your buddy are far out as you think. I'm sure you will both still feel a buzz and get a psychedelic/stoning effect for sure, but it'll be relatively mild IMO.
My typical "dose", as in a dose that's sufficient enough to produce what I consider a full on trip but with out going deep, with out completely losing my sense of self or losing the plot....is right around 1.5g of cyanescens, and cyans are comparable to subaeruginosa .
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impaired420 said: As for dose, it's not really allowed to talk about but 1.5g of subs is probably around 2-3g of cubes equivilent so it's just about one dose, don't think you could split it and still get off.
Talking about and giving dosage advice is totally fine in this forum, as long as it's only in regards to the classic psychedelics (Mushrooms, mescaline, LSD, cannabis, salvia, LSA, DMT)
And yea, I'd concur with 1.5 of subaeruginosa being equivelent to about 2g to 3g of average cubensis.
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Re: Some questions. [Re: openmind]
#23487711 - 07/28/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you for the in depth answer! guess I'll smash em back on my own.
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23487745 - 07/28/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Good to know OM, thought I was in ODD anyway but still good post there.
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The unknown powder lol.
It was in a capsule, brown coloured and tasted like shit when I broke it open and tasted it. I'm no shrooms expert but for a small dose it did alright. 6 hour trip, my Exe GF made level 3 (I think, she said she could see her jaw melting off in the mirror and found it amazing) off the same amount. Time distortions was he most notable effect for me, 1 minute felt like half an hour.
Maybe some other similar things do the same shit? But the powder was exactly what I was expecting of a shroom trip, green as I may be.
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23487799 - 07/28/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are priceless. If you ask me your dealer is getting ripped off. You should learn to cultivate them though. Happy tripping.
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23487865 - 07/28/16 11:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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EthyWoo said: Maybe some other similar things do the same shit? But the powder was exactly what I was expecting of a shroom trip, green as I may be.
Exactly like you expected shrooms trip to be....something doesn't sound right..
Shrooms are really never what anyone expects, even in the realm of psychedelics mushrooms in particular are very different from other psychs and very unorthodox in their nature and agenda.
I still don't think that powder was anything relating to mushrooms or psilocybin. I'd honestly doubt it's even a tryptamine if it was "exactly what you expected".
No offense man but you probably just did a low level phenylethylamine like 2C-B. In fact I would bet anything that powder was some kind of 2C most likely 2C-B. That drug also lasts 6 hours and it's probably the most popular RC, the effects it gives are MUCH more like what someone would expect a psychedelic trip to be like. That's because it's not a tryptamine. The real problem is the classic psychedelic tryptamines gives effects that no one would ever expect so that's why that sounds fishy.
The tryptamines are vastly different and cannot even be imagined or comprehended. Sounds like just a simple phenylethylamine trip man. Highly unlikely that anyone got a level 3 with that just saying.
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23487946 - 07/29/16 12:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Were the effects you got from this powder anything like what's described in the subjective effects part? https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/2C-B
Because if so then it was likely just some 2C
You can also compare it to the common subjective effects of psilocybin and decide for yourself which one you think you got https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Psilocin
I just know when it comes to things like LSD and mushrooms they should never just be "what you expected". The whole point of the tryptamine experience to me is that things like that just don't happen. The dose might have been just really low who knows but I would suspect an "unknown powder" that gives a level 2 and a first timer the effects someone would "expect" a psychedelic to be like to most definitely be some sort of 2C.
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Yeah fair enough, it could very well have been, I was at a lower level, I noticed colours and a much increased imagination. Also personal bias was 0, I could look at myself in the mirror and judge without any bias, at least that's what it felt like.
My GF on the other hand was leaning left and right looking at the mirror explaining that "when I lean left I enter the normal world of ordinary colours, but when I lean right, the colours splash on the wall and everything becomes beautiful" And "when I open my mouth, it can see my jaw melting off in the mirror!".
So I am unsure. I can relate to both but it wasn't a high dose. It doesn't matter now either way because I've taken half the shrooms I got 54 minutes ago. Nothing yet.
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23488672 - 07/29/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Really you don't feel anything after 50 minutes? Did you ever feel it at all?
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Re: Some questions. [Re: EthyWoo]
#23488801 - 07/29/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh ya and off that unknown powder did your nose get kind of runny and did you yawn a lot? Those are some tell tale signs that it was psilocybin or even 4-AcO-DMT.
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It doesn't sound like the powder was mushrooms at all, being in one cap. Although I think that's been established.
It's impossible to say what it was for sure.
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AuroraBorealis88 said:
The tryptamines are vastly different and cannot even be imagined or comprehended. Sounds like just a simple phenylethylamine trip man. Highly unlikely that anyone got a level 3 with that just saying.
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EthyWoo said: my Exe GF made level 3 (I think, she said she could see her jaw melting off in the mirror and found it amazing) off the same amount.
Ok, that makes sense. Also if you can't reach level 3 with 2C-B your not trying hard enough.
I agree that the amount of 2C-B typically found in a "dose" is almost never enough for such effects. That's why I propose it could have been a synthetic tryptamine like 4-ACO-DMT or 4-ACO-MET.
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AuroraBorealis88 said: Shrooms are really never what anyone expects, even in the realm of psychedelics mushrooms in particular are very different from other psychs and very unorthodox in their nature and agenda.
I don't believe this either. No two psychedelic trip I've had on the same drug at the same dosage have been identical. I've had shroom trips off good old cubes that were very much what one who's never tripped would expect it to be like, and others from the same batch that were not.
Ultimately unless OP is able to obtain the same powder again and have it tested we'll never know for sure.
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I don't understand how someone who's never done psychedelics before could get the effects they "expect"
To me the tryptamine experience cannot be imagined in anyway. Almost no one expects it to be that alien. The only time I had a trip where I thought this is something a first timer might expect psychedelics to be like was the one time I got weak shrooms. And times when I was on 2Cs.
I never said you can't get to a level 3 with 2C-B but it is not typical at all. The average shroom trip is a level 3 for me and the average 2C is always a level 2. I've never taken 2C-B and not had a level 2. I feel like the psychedelia from low doses of 2C-B is more comparable to the psychedelia induced by high doses of weed. Both generally level 2 experiences.
For me the biggest jump is from level 2 to 3. Level 3 is when things get really crazy. From what I hear even the average mescaline trip isn't a level 3.
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AuroraBorealis88 said: I feel like the psychedelia from low doses of 2C-B is more comparable to the psychedelia induced by high doses of weed. Both generally level 2 experiences.
Not even comparable. Not even close, AT ALL.
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The psychedelia induced by low dose 2C-B is most comparable to MDMA, but even then with a stronger ego softening component.
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The psychedelic effects I get from MDMA, 2C-B and high doses of cannabis are all comparable (especially the closed eye visuals)
I already posted this same thing in another thread recently saying that about those 3 drugs. I was talking about just the psychedelic effects btw not the effects on ego.
To be honest none of them not even 2C-B really did much for my ego. The only psychedelics that effected my ego strongly was the classics.
People will say shit like high doses of weed are somewhat comparable to a low dose of shrooms in their psychedelic effects and I think that's complete bullshit. A low dose of 2C-B though that's different, even though it still may be quite different from weed at least I can still compare weed (high dose) to 2C-B (low dose).
At least I'm not saying weed is comparable to acid or shrooms or some shit like some of these other people will try to say.
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2C-B is comparable to acid or shrooms or mescaline. Weed is comparable to spice.
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Lol I don't find 2C-B comparable to acid or mushrooms at all especially not mushrooms.
Comparing weed to mushrooms is like comparing a walking stick to an apple mac computer.
Comparing 2C-B to mushrooms is like comparing an etch a sketch to an apple mac computer. imo
To me comparing LSD to mushrooms is just like comparing another kind of computer.
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I guess what I'm trying to say is.....I find the indole tryptamines vastly different from everything else.
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In that they're inferior to psychedelic phenethylamines? I agree.
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Some mushrooms contain phenethylamines like liberty caps
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SonicTitan said: Some mushrooms contain phenethylamines like liberty caps
This is the first time I've heard of that....not doubting you, but do you have any sources or know what particular phens they produce? 
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