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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
    #23484938 - 07/28/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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What's amazing is that you give a shit about women and gays all of a sudden. You support a guy who praises the leadership of Putin, someone who has done more harm to gay people than the entire religion of Islam.




Who are you talking about? Trump? I don't support that guy.

I'm pretty sure you're not talking to me, but I've always fought for women and gays. I was very active in the LGBT community, I was a volunteer at the gay and lesbian center, as well as numerous feminist organizations.

My primary concern is for women, which is why I'm generally tolerant of female Muslims, as I see them as victims of a barbaric practice, rather than the perpetrators. Muslim women are not the ones committing rapes and violent crimes.




I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the hypocrite who thinks that gays should support Donald trump, despite the anti-gay rhetoric of the republican platform.




Trump said gays are great and they love him. Trump isn't your typical Republican, he's not religious.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
    #23484948 - 07/28/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the hypocrite who thinks that gays should support Donald trump, despite the anti-gay rhetoric of the republican platform.




Yeah, I agree, that is very stupid. A lot of people in this thread are only pretending to care about gays and women to further their racist or right-wing ideology. I know this, because I have read some of their other posts they make about trans people and about women, and a lot of them deeply believe in misogynistic MRA Red Pill type garbage. Like dude, stop pretending to care about women, you're no better.

I on the other hand, genuinely care about women. Which is why I cannot support a patriarchal religion like Islam (or any of the other Abrahamic religions), which only serves to put men in extreme power over women, through coercion or violence or threats. Feminists should not support or embrace this ideology. Call it out for what it really is--disgusting garbage.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23484950 - 07/28/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Oberhausen apparently has taken in close to 25% of the refugee population. According to this chart, Bavaria and Oberhausen have taken in the most refugees.



Oberhausen is a city what you mean is probably "north rhine westphalia". The reason why so many refugees are in this state is because it has the highest population (17 mil). That picture is a bad bit outdated tho. Heres a more recent one :



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I am certain there is crime, you just don't know about it. Apparently the police are refusing to go public about crimes committed by refugees.

But here, you're German. Surely you can read this (I actually use Google translate to read Swedish and German publications that don't make it to the states or get translated in English): http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Lokales/Kreis-Lippe/Detmold/2069675-13-jaehriges-Maedchen-aus-Asien-von-Landsmann-missbraucht-Verdaechtiger-in-U-Haft-Polizei-aeussert-sich-nach-Berichterstattung-Im-Fluechtlingsheim-vergewaltigt-Oeffentlichkeit-soll-nichts-erfahren



This link actually has a followup :
http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Lokales/Kreis-Lippe/Detmold/2070694-Kripo-Lippe-aeussert-sich-nach-Berichterstattung-ueber-die-Vergewaltigung-eines-Maedchens-14-in-einem-Fluechtlingsheim-Opferschutz-hat-Prioritaet

I cant be assed to translate all of it but it pretty much says that the police holds back information when sexual crimes happen to protect the victim. Thats their standard protocol when it comes to things like that.

The german ministry of crime (dont know if translation is accurate) has released a report on crimes commited by refugees and the conclusion is that a majority of refugees arent criminal:
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Kurzmeldungen/lageuebersicht-kriminalitaet-kontext-zuwanderung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile




Well thank god the majority (over 50%) of refugees aren't criminal, you don't have very high expectations for these people do you?

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: qman]
    #23484953 - 07/28/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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What's amazing is that you give a shit about women and gays all of a sudden. You support a guy who praises the leadership of Putin, someone who has done more harm to gay people than the entire religion of Islam.




Who are you talking about? Trump? I don't support that guy.

I'm pretty sure you're not talking to me, but I've always fought for women and gays. I was very active in the LGBT community, I was a volunteer at the gay and lesbian center, as well as numerous feminist organizations.

My primary concern is for women, which is why I'm generally tolerant of female Muslims, as I see them as victims of a barbaric practice, rather than the perpetrators. Muslim women are not the ones committing rapes and violent crimes.




I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the hypocrite who thinks that gays should support Donald trump, despite the anti-gay rhetoric of the republican platform.




Trump said gays are great and they love him. Trump isn't your typical Republican, he's not religious.



Read the republican platform. He praises Putin, who has orchestrated a campaign of violence and terror against gays in Russia.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: LobsterSauce]
    #23484958 - 07/28/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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You can find film to support any point of view you want.






that's twice you've said that and neither time have you offered up the film


merkel is excluded in her praise of islamic rapists




I'm on my phone here.

That video is ridiculous.

They sound really young and stupid and don't sound like refugees.

When they grow up and get to the workplace and have to actually mix with Germans, they might change their tune.

Unless their feelings are so strong that they want to stay lifelong in jobs where there are exclusively non-Germans.





you still havent offered anything but excuses

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23484976 - 07/28/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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This link actually has a followup :
http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Lokales/Kreis-Lippe/Detmold/2070694-Kripo-Lippe-aeussert-sich-nach-Berichterstattung-ueber-die-Vergewaltigung-eines-Maedchens-14-in-einem-Fluechtlingsheim-Opferschutz-hat-Prioritaet

The german ministry of crime (dont know if translation is accurate) has released a report on crimes commited by refugees and the conclusion is that a majority of refugees arent criminal:
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Kurzmeldungen/lageuebersicht-kriminalitaet-kontext-zuwanderung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile




Your link says (if Google translate is translating it accurately), that the crimes committed by migrants are 18%? Don't you think that's a little high? That's almost 1/5th of the population!

And considering almost 30% of migrants are female now, that means that number is actually HIGHER if you only calculate for men! It's more like 1/4th or even 1/3rd of the population!!!!

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Straftaten begangen durch Zuwanderer, Rohheitsdelikte hatten einen Anteil von ca. 18 %






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I cant be assed to translate all of it but it pretty much says that the police holds back information when sexual crimes happen to protect the victim. Thats their standard protocol when it comes to things like that.




Oh yeah? Is that why the police chief was fired after he tried to cover up the Cologne incident for several days?

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
    #23484988 - 07/28/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the hypocrite who thinks that gays should support Donald trump, despite the anti-gay rhetoric of the republican platform.





like this?



or like this



maybe you mean like this



maybe you meant this



or this





seems like the religious left should be left behind

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: qman]
    #23484989 - 07/28/16 09:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Oberhausen apparently has taken in close to 25% of the refugee population. According to this chart, Bavaria and Oberhausen have taken in the most refugees.



Oberhausen is a city what you mean is probably "north rhine westphalia". The reason why so many refugees are in this state is because it has the highest population (17 mil). That picture is a bad bit outdated tho. Heres a more recent one :



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I am certain there is crime, you just don't know about it. Apparently the police are refusing to go public about crimes committed by refugees.

But here, you're German. Surely you can read this (I actually use Google translate to read Swedish and German publications that don't make it to the states or get translated in English): http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Lokales/Kreis-Lippe/Detmold/2069675-13-jaehriges-Maedchen-aus-Asien-von-Landsmann-missbraucht-Verdaechtiger-in-U-Haft-Polizei-aeussert-sich-nach-Berichterstattung-Im-Fluechtlingsheim-vergewaltigt-Oeffentlichkeit-soll-nichts-erfahren



This link actually has a followup :
http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Lokales/Kreis-Lippe/Detmold/2070694-Kripo-Lippe-aeussert-sich-nach-Berichterstattung-ueber-die-Vergewaltigung-eines-Maedchens-14-in-einem-Fluechtlingsheim-Opferschutz-hat-Prioritaet

I cant be assed to translate all of it but it pretty much says that the police holds back information when sexual crimes happen to protect the victim. Thats their standard protocol when it comes to things like that.

The german ministry of crime (dont know if translation is accurate) has released a report on crimes commited by refugees and the conclusion is that a majority of refugees arent criminal:
https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Kurzmeldungen/lageuebersicht-kriminalitaet-kontext-zuwanderung.pdf?__blob=publicationFile




Well thank god the majority (over 50%) of refugees aren't criminal, you don't have very high expectations for these people do you?




I shouldve worded that better : A very large majority of refugees isnt criminal.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23484995 - 07/28/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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seems like the religious left should be left behind




Did you hear that on Fox News or did you make it up all by yourself?


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods]
    #23485011 - 07/28/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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What's amazing is that you give a shit about women and gays all of a sudden. You support a guy who praises the leadership of Putin, someone who has done more harm to gay people than the entire religion of Islam.




Who are you talking about? Trump? I don't support that guy.

I'm pretty sure you're not talking to me, but I've always fought for women and gays. I was very active in the LGBT community, I was a volunteer at the gay and lesbian center, as well as numerous feminist organizations.

My primary concern is for women, which is why I'm generally tolerant of female Muslims, as I see them as victims of a barbaric practice, rather than the perpetrators. Muslim women are not the ones committing rapes and violent crimes.




I wasn't replying to you. I was replying to the hypocrite who thinks that gays should support Donald trump, despite the anti-gay rhetoric of the republican platform.

Trump is now praising a dictator who has led a pogrom of terror against gay people for years




I never brought up trump or Putin, I'm sorry you feel the need to ignore the issues and obfuscate from addressing the very real issue of Islam and their terror against women and gays.

I'm just pointing out the very people that have championed gay rights, now are inviting millions of anti gay people into their countries.

And no, I don't give two shits if someone don't wanna bake you a cake, I'm just surprised you people see that as worse than being thrown off buildings...


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23485021 - 07/28/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Nobody is being thrown off buildings in the United States, unlike Russia. Do you condemn trump for praising Putin?


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23485030 - 07/28/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Many Muslims are actually tolerant of gay people. You can't just use the words "Muslim" and "homophobe" interchangeably, just like you can't use the words "Muslim" and "rapist" interchangeably.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23485037 - 07/28/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Like have said, I've had sex with a number of Muslims. I doubt hostileuniverse knows anything about them, except what he hears on TV.

Also, what is happening in Europe is not comparable to the US. The US picks and chooses its refugees very carefully. It takes years to get a visa to come to the US.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods] * 1
    #23485049 - 07/28/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Like have said, I've had sex with a number of Muslims. I doubt hostileuniverse knows anything about them, except what he hears on TV.




Wonderful, you bang gay Muslims so you know all about how great they are IRL, did you ever ask them why their culture and religion is so full of hate?

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23485051 - 07/28/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Eigentums-/Fälschungs- und Vermögensdelikte (inklusive Leistungs-/ Beförderungserschleichung) hatten mit ca. 65 % den größten Anteil an den erfassten Fällen von Straftaten begangen durch Zuwanderer, Rohheitsdelikte hatten einen Anteil von ca. 18 %, der Anteil von Straftaten gegen die sexuelle Selbstbestimmung lag unter einem
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property- and plagiarismcrimes was the largest part of crimes commited by immigrants with 65%, crimes of brutality were at about 18% and the share of sexual crimes was at under 1%





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Oh yeah? Is that why the police chief was fired after he tried to cover up the Cologne incident for several days?



The police chief was fired because the politicians got bad publicity and needed a scapegoat. The one whos truly resposible is the minister for inner affairs whos probably also the one responsible for refusing the police reinforcements when shit was going down.

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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: qman]
    #23485052 - 07/28/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Do you make a habit of randomly interrogating your friends with loaded questions based on stereotypes of their beliefs?


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: koods] * 1
    #23485055 - 07/28/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Nobody is being thrown off buildings in the United States, unlike Russia. Do you condemn trump for praising Putin?





did putin throw them off himself?


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23485059 - 07/28/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Many Muslims are actually tolerant of gay people. You can't just use the words "Muslim" and "homophobe" interchangeably, just like you can't use the words "Muslim" and "rapist" interchangeably.




It's true, American Muslims tend to be more tolerant of gay people. But you have to understand that the largest percentage of Muslims in America are black Americans, not foreigners coming from completely culturally different places like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. Therefore, American Muslims will tend to be more open-minded than others.

Here's a comparison of which religion supports homosexual marriage the most in America.

Buddhists, Hindus, and Jews favor gay marriage the most, with the highest percentages favoring it, in that order. Jehova's Witnesses are the most against gay marriage, with only 14% supporting it. 42% of Muslims support gay marriage in America, with 52% opposing it.

The problem is, the people on the extreme end of Islam who don't support gay marriage, believe that homosexuality should be a crime under law, and that gays should receive lashings or even stoning.

Even the most extreme Christian hate group in America, the Westboro Baptist Church, doesn't call for stoning or execution of gays. They just say they will burn in hell, and like to act as pests that annoy everybody.

Chart here:


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23485063 - 07/28/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I dated a Muslim guy for an entire summer then went and stayed with his family for a week. None of them had any problem with us being gay.


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Re: Religion of Peace Strikes again [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23485064 - 07/28/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Do you make a habit of randomly interrogating your friends with loaded questions based on stereotypes of their beliefs?




It's never random, it's always controlled and measured. :cookiemonster:

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