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Dosha9
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Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit
#23484663 - 07/28/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I spawned 4 66qt monotubs using franks teks, with only one exception: I didn't tape the holes at spawning; Instead, I packed them tight with polyfilll. It's been three weeks now, and I've only spotted one pin, and that hasn't shown any growth in a week. What could be causing these tubs to stall out? Is there anything I can do to force fruiting? I keep the room temps at around 74F, and the humidity stays at about 55%
Here's my tubs.

AA+ spawned on 7/2, but I took the tape off about 5 days later and added polyfill. I dialed it in using frank's tek. This is the tub that sprouted a single pin, like a week ago. The substrate has begun to shrink from evaporation.  
A patch of strange looking mycelium appeared on the liner within the last couple days. It could be dried up.

AA+ spawned on 7/7; put into fruiting conditions immediately.

AA+, spawned on 7/11; put into fruiting conditions immediately.
Edited by Dosha9 (07/28/16 12:10 PM)
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Dosha9]
#23484685 - 07/28/16 06:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Maybe it's contaminated? Do you have a pic?
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Grey]
#23484696 - 07/28/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Get the humidity much higher. also use a 12 hour light cycle if you are not already.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: My Boy]
#23485543 - 07/28/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Here's my tubs.

AA+ spawned on 7/2, but I took the tape off about 5 days later and added polyfill. I dialed it in using frank's tek. This is the tub that sprouted a single pin, like a week ago. The substrate has begun to shrink from evaporation.  
A patch of strange looking mycelium appeared on the liner within the last couple days. It could be dried up.

AA+ spawned on 7/7; put into fruiting conditions immediately.

AA+, spawned on 7/11; put into fruiting conditions immediately.
Edited by Dosha9 (07/28/16 12:10 PM)
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Dosha9]
#23485576 - 07/28/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Could a layer of verm over the top of these, then misted help?
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Dosha9]
#23485577 - 07/28/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks fine to me I wouldn't try increasing humidity or any of that shit... I'd just leave it as is. I've had trays take a month to fruit, as long as it ain't contaminated, it's just taking its time as far as I'm concerned. And yes the sides and corner are drying up some. Especially the areas near the holes.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Mad Season]
#23485638 - 07/28/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Three weeks from spawning isn't a reason for concern, looks fine to me as well. I agree it just needs time.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: NDStepp84]
#23485722 - 07/28/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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time to get into agar and find faster genetics
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: bodhisatta] 1
#23485858 - 07/28/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is my first grow. I inoculated the spores on agar and transferred from the plate that showed the fastest growth. The spores germinated in 6 days, and the mycelium seems to colonize grains and substrate pretty fast in comparison to a lot of the grow logs I've seen on here. The last round of G2G jars took about a week to fully colonize; with a little less then a 5th of a quart to inoculate each of them. I've been planning to take a clone from this grow, but I might start again with fresh spores.
Edited by Dosha9 (07/28/16 02:27 PM)
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Dosha9] 1
#23485908 - 07/28/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dosha9 said: This in my first grow. I inoculated the spores on agar and transferred from the plate that showed the fastest growth. The spores germinated in 6 days, and the mycelium seems to colonize grains and substrate pretty fast in comparison to a lot of the grow logs I've seen on here. The last round of G2G jars took about a week to fully colonize; with a little less then a 5th of a quart to inoculate each of them. I've been planning to take a clone from this grow, but I might start again with fresh spores.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Dosha9]
#23486062 - 07/28/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Never heard of AA+, maybe its a rare mutant strain which is why it is taking so long to fruit 
I would give it more time, maybe pull some of that polyfill out to increase FAE.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23486186 - 07/28/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Never heard of AA+
Albino A+
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23486202 - 07/28/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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My first bulk grow was AA+. It only took around a week from initiating fruiting till pins. I noticed in your pictures of your mono tub there is not a ring of evaporation around your bottom holes. Maybe the reason for the lack of pins is not enough FAE for evaporation? Do you have a fan going on in the room? If so I would loosen the bottom polyfil a little and make sure you dial the top polyfil so there's a trail of evaporation down the wall leading to the substrate
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Specops2594]
#23486239 - 07/28/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, I have a window A/C, and that has a fan running 24/7. I just loosened the polyfill in one of the tubs last night. I think I'll do the same for the others. I read somewhere in a thread that it's best to stuff the holes tight at spawning, and then dial them in after fruits appear. Maybe "as tight as possible" is too tight.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: bodhisatta]
#23486246 - 07/28/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trusted Cultivator said: time to get into agar and find faster genetics
This, and it looks fine. 55% RH is low. If it's just cruising there without much evaporation then it wont induce pinning quickly. I'd increase the humidity in the fruiting chamber which indirectly would help evaporation (if ambient average RH is 55%) It looks ready to pop.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
#23486275 - 07/28/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What I do I just duct tape the holes after spawning and once I want to initiate fruiting take off the tape and stuff with polyfil. Yeah the bottom holes should be tight and the top holes loose, this creates airflow which will cause the ring of evaporation around the bottom holes and a trail leading to the substrate from the top holes. FAE and surface evaporation is the number one fruiting trigger
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
#23486291 - 07/28/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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He means the room is at 55%. At least that's what it sounded like. Uh care to explain how reducing fae (increasing humidity) will increase evaporation? Because it's the opposite imo.
At the dude saying to have more fae, the edges are already beginning to dry out. I'm pretty sure he's good on the fae front. The rings around the holes are a good starting point, but it isn't the indicator on Fae/humidity IME.
Seriously this tub looks fine for 3 weeks. I'd just let it do its thing. The middle is glistening like it should, and the sides are drying out like they always do. If it hasn't contaminated, it'll pin sooner than later.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Mad Season] 1
#23486491 - 07/28/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: He means the room is at 55%. At least that's what it sounded like. Uh care to explain how reducing fae (increasing humidity) will increase evaporation? Because it's the opposite imo.
Thanks Mad. Yes, I wasn't talking about FAE at all, but I get the correlation in the tub. I was just saying increasing humidity in the tub if the room is at 55% then you would get evaporation which would help pinning. I think the OP has been answered, but
Just for academic reasons...
I would defer to you on this, but misting may help. You can already see it pulling from the sides so I agree that it's ready to go, and it's going to pull all the water out of that substrate which could effect the fruit size. Am I wrong on that? Once the water runs out of the substrate they're going to stop growing. To get the largest fruits you want (pretty much) as much water as they need.
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Re: Three weeks in fruiting conditions, and still no fruit [Re: Psychedelic Pupil] 1
#23486628 - 07/28/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh I see what you're saying. I find that the most fae you can get is the best, or rather the constant loss and replacement of water is the biggest pinning trigger. I do this through misting, but only when the tub needs it. Over watering the tub is detrimental. Under watering is also detrimental. You want to find a Goldilocks zone for misting/hydration. The glistening on the surface/beads of water is what you pretty much want constantly. To supply even more water to it, you can also do bottom watering, which you should only do if you have a big pinset, and you want the water there to support it.
As ops tub is right now, he's still got the majority glistening, and trying to mist might just oversaturate it, considering misting is an art you gotta develop lol. That's why I think he should just leave it as is. Fae is so important for pinning it isn't even funny, it's been glistening for 3 weeks, so humidity sounds good to me. Restricting fae for humidity that isn't needed isn't a good path for pinning IMO. The more fae the better, but not too much if you're not good at misting.
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