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E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says * 1
    #23484596 - 07/28/16 05:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/28/e-cig-vapor-releases-two-new-cancerous-chemicals-study-says/

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Vapor from electronic cigarettes contains two previously undiscovered cancer-causing chemicals, according to a new study.

Researchers at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory found propylene glycol, an eye and respiratory irritant, and glycerin, a skin, eye and respiratory irritant, among 29 other chemicals released in e-cigarette vapor.

Both are considered “probable carcinogens” by federal health officials. They’re used in e-cigarettes to create artificial smoke.

Decomposition of those chemicals, caused by heating them inside an e-cig, also releases toxic chemicals such as acrolein and formaldehyde, according to the study published in the journal Environmental Science and Technology.

“Advocates of e-cigarettes say emissions are much lower than from conventional cigarettes, so you’re better off using e-cigarettes,” Hugo Destaillats, the study’s author and Berkeley Lab researcher, said in a statement.

“I would say, that may be true for certain users — for example, long time smokers that cannot quit — but the problem is, it doesn’t mean that they’re healthy. Regular cigarettes are super unhealthy. E-cigarettes are just unhealthy,” he said.

Researchers simulated “vaping” with three types of “e-liquids” in two vaporizers operated at different battery settings.

The higher the temperature inside the vaporizer’s heating coil, the more chemicals were emitted. E-cigs with one heating coil instead of two released higher amounts of chemicals because the coil was hotter, the study found.

And puffs taken at different times released varying amounts of chemicals, the research showed. Vapes taken while an e-cig was heating up released lower levels of chemicals than when the device was used at a “steady state” with constant heat.

Previous studies have already shown e-cigarettes emit toxic chemicals. The FDA in 2009 warned that some e-cigarettes emit diethylene glycol, a chemical used in antifreeze. A 2015 study in the New England Journal of Medicine found e-cigs give off formaldehyde, another carcinogen.

And e-cigarette use has also spiked in the United States. More than 13 percent of middle and high school students in 2014 had used an e-cigarette, triple the number that had used them the year before, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Almost 13 percent of adults, and more than 21 percent of adults aged 18 to 24, reported using e-cigarettes in 2014, the CDC found.

The FDA banned the sale of e-cigs to minors in May.




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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #23484620 - 07/28/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Iv'e tried a friends e-cig that he was also 'trying out'. To me it tasted just like the smoke machine mist and didn't feel natural to my lungs. Seemed very 'chemical' tasting. My friend wasn't impressed by it either.

I afterwards did some googling and found that they basically are a miniature version of the disco smoke machines (they use the same chemical/s for the 'fog')


Edited by wicca mixer (07/28/16 05:46 AM)


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #23484660 - 07/28/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ah, thanks for the article.

I have been saving all the negative side effects of e-cig articles to send to my bro, he vapes, but don't want to make him feel like I am judging him because I quit smoking, so haven't sent them to him yet.:sad:


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #23485094 - 07/28/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just quit drinking coffee 2 days ago because I'm pretty sure that's not good for me at all. Now I gotta cut back on my e-cig too. Shit, isn't there something -- oh, wait. There's weed but that costs money out the ass. Why isn't cannabis growing on every street corner yet? Marijuana laws were created by murderers and theives.


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: thirtygoats] * 1
    #23485169 - 07/28/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

collect your pot seeds and organize friends to plant them out on every street corner
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/feed-the-birds-planting-weed-all-over-london

i don't vape, but thanks for the info OP


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: thirtygoats]
    #23485307 - 07/28/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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thirtygoats said:
I just quit drinking coffee 2 days ago because I'm pretty sure that's not good for me at all. Now I gotta cut back on my e-cig too. Shit, isn't there something -- oh, wait. There's weed but that costs money out the ass. Why isn't cannabis growing on every street corner yet? Marijuana laws were created by murderers and theives.





Why are you saying coffee is not good for you?
One or two cups a day is fine for you.


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #23486860 - 07/28/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipid_pneumonia

Otherwise, glycerin might be thought of as vegetable oil, refined to the point of clarity.

I think E-cigs, apsartame, MSG, and McD's are GRAS (generally recognized as safe) for so long as you avoid them. If you use enough to get sick, then, you're a "heavy user".  :awesomenod:


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: durian_2008]
    #23487970 - 07/29/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

in regards to the OP haven't they known this for a couple years now?


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: 404]
    #23489775 - 07/29/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

2 carcinogens, as opposed to hundreds? Damn! That's some dangerous shit!


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: durian_2008]
    #23490200 - 07/29/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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durian_2008 said:
I think E-cigs, apsartame, MSG, and McD's are GRAS (generally recognized as safe) for so long as you avoid them. If you use enough to get sick, then, you're a "heavy user".  :awesomenod:




Many ingredients are GRAS, but this is irrelevant because they are inhaled. The GRAS designation applies to the oral route so its irrelevant for e-cigs.


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #23490466 - 07/29/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder if chemical reagents which are being dropped on us by  military from planes (a.k.a. chem trails) is is bad for us too :cuteshit:




Ever notice that ...every day some stupid study fear mongers us and makes us afraid to even wake the fuck up each day :uhoh:


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: badchad]
    #23492056 - 07/30/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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durian_2008 said:
I think E-cigs, apsartame, MSG, and McD's are GRAS (generally recognized as safe) for so long as you avoid them. If you use enough to get sick, then, you're a "heavy user".  :awesomenod:



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Many ingredients are GRAS, but this is irrelevant because they are inhaled. The GRAS designation applies to the oral route so its irrelevant for e-cigs.




What was the formal designation for inhalants?


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: durian_2008]
    #23492301 - 07/30/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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durian_2008 said:


What was the formal designation for inhalants?




I'm not sure, but I think most inhalants carry some sort of labeled warning like "Don't inhale this" or something. If a substance has known toxic effects, it won't be recognized as GRAS.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: Vitalux]
    #23494691 - 07/31/16 06:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Prove it's bad for you.


As for aspartame, it's one of the most widely studied food additives and deemed safe by both europe and the us.


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: badchad]
    #23495283 - 07/31/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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durian_2008 said:
I think E-cigs, apsartame, MSG, and McD's are GRAS (generally recognized as safe) for so long as you avoid them. If you use enough to get sick, then, you're a "heavy user".  :awesomenod:



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Many ingredients are GRAS, but this is irrelevant because they are inhaled. The GRAS designation applies to the oral route so its irrelevant for e-cigs.



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durian_2008 said:
What was the formal designation for inhalants?



(Sarcasm.) ^

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If a substance has known toxic effects, it won't be recognized as GRAS.



I am not a detective, industrial spy, or speaking as a powerful mystic, here.

Subsidized media tells you, plainly enough:
1. You pay for access.
2. Profits are supposed to be greater than liabilities.

A substance can be toxic. A machine or treatment can be unsafe.

Don't even take my word for it, as a semi-anonymous voice on the internet.

Use your own, best, independent judgement, and question the consequences, for yourself.


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Re: E-cig vapor releases two cancerous chemicals, new study says [Re: MMG]
    #23495342 - 07/31/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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feed-the-birds-planting-weed-all-over-london




Guerrilla gardening has been used for just-plain foodstuffs, which are state commodities, under stringent market controls.

In theory, birds may also like to eat the seeds of countless plants, which produce textiles and useful materials.


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