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Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary
#23481074 - 07/27/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Austria has finished preparations for building a possible 100 kilometre fence along its eastern border with Hungary after securing permission from hundreds of private landowners in the region.
The fence is part of the country’s efforts to prepare for a possible repeat of last summer when thousands of asylum seekers and migrants arrived to Europe every day.
Many arriving last year chose to make their way through the Balkans and into Austria and Germany, causing chaos at borders between various countries.
Following the closure of the so-called West Balkan route, strongly supported by Austria, the country has seen a significant drop in the number of asylum seekers arriving to the country.
According to the state-supported Hungarian news agency MTI, between 30 and 40 asylum seekers and migrants are estimated to cross the border into Austria every day.
Despite the lower numbers, Austria has introduced a number of measures in preparation for a potential repeat of last summer, including preparing to build fences along its border.
One 3.7 kilometre long fence already exists along a small section of the border with Slovenia.
Now a police spokesman in Burgenland, the Austrian state that borders Hungary, has told German press agency DPA that should the numbers of refugees increase again they would be able to quickly raise a fence. “It is ready,” the spokesperson said.
Most media reported the police have prepared for a fence as long as 100 km, although German newspaper Die Zeit reported it would just be 30 km long.
Controversy at the border
Authorities have received permission to build the fence and patrol the area from hundreds of property owners, although they are not allowed on property owned by the local church after Bishop of Eisenstadt Ägidius Zsifkovics refused to give them permission on humanitarian grounds.
The question of migration and asylum has also been a thorny diplomatic issue between Austria and Hungary recently, with Hungary refusing to accept asylum seekers Austria wants to return under the Dublin II regulation. The regulation stipulates asylum seekers must apply for asylum in the first EU country they reach.
In recent weeks efforts to extend fences in Slovenia ran into difficulties after Austrians refused to allow the government build on their land.
Only around 40 percent of those affected have given police permission to build a fence on their land, many arguing it would damage the relationship with their Slovenian neighbours.
“Not once during the time of the Cold War or when the border between Carinthia and Yugoslavia burnt 25 years ago due to the struggle of freedom of the Slovenian defence against the People’s Army, has a fence been necessary," Franz Sadjak from Bleiburg told the Kurier.
Stricter policies imposed
Alongside strengthening border protections, the government also introduced a cap of 37,500 on the number of asylum applications they are prepared to accept in 2016. It is a significant drop from 2015 when they accepted 90,000.
In addition, they passed a law earlier this year that would allow them to shut down the borders to nearly all asylum seekers if they deem the situation to be an emergency.
Interior Minister Wolfgang Sobotka has said that he would want to enforce the emergency measures before the 37,500 limit is reached. So far, the country has accepted around 22,000 applications. http://www.thelocal.at/20160722/austria-finishes-preparing-100km-border-fence-with-hungary
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23481085 - 07/27/16 02:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can see why they did it. Austria has had a particularly bad crime wave with migrants coming in to their area. Apparently Austria has declared a "state of emergency" due to everything that's going on right now.
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G]
#23481334 - 07/27/16 05:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Haven't they heard? Fences don't stop people...
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23481538 - 07/27/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Haven't they heard? Fences don't stop people...
Only in liberal land.
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: qman]
#23482614 - 07/27/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's true, they don't. There's already a fence along the California border, and people still climb it, or dig tunnels under it.
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23482659 - 07/27/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: It's true, they don't. There's already a fence along the California border, and people still climb it, or dig tunnels under it.
Border enforcement goes beyond a fence, that's one factor in the equation.
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: qman]
#23482720 - 07/27/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Mexican cartel dug a 10 mile tunnel underneath the border, how would a wall help with that?
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G]
#23482745 - 07/27/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Think of all the jobs!
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G]
#23482754 - 07/27/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: The Mexican cartel dug a 10 mile tunnel underneath the border, how would a wall help with that?
Have enough manpower to find it and close it. If there's a will there's a way. It's purposely been an open border for decades, that needs to stop.
Edited by qman (07/27/16 04:34 PM)
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: qman]
#23482850 - 07/27/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is why the White House doesn't have guards, you know, for when people hop the fence, it's just retarded to think "build a fence and you can forget about it"
I really don't understand how those against the fence really believe that's the plan
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23482867 - 07/27/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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LobsterSauce said: Austria has finished preparations for building a possible 100 kilometre fence along its eastern border with Hungary after securing permission from hundreds of private landowners in the region.
fucking racists
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G]
#23482876 - 07/27/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: The Mexican cartel dug a 10 mile tunnel underneath the border, how would a wall help with that?
The funny thing is, I was on the tinfoil hat section of youtube the other day, listening to stuff about hollow earth and how there's thousands of tunnels across the earth that link one place to another. I could well believe that there's tunnels with entrances in say, Nevada and Southern Mexico, with all sorts of rabbitholes inbetween.
Plenty of underground tunnels that have been mapped about 40km west of Sarajevo, that's further south in Bosnia though.
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G] 1
#23482880 - 07/27/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: It's true, they don't. There's already a fence along the California border, and people still climb it, or dig tunnels under it.
not much of a climb
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23482913 - 07/27/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is actually what the gate looks like, about 20 to 30 feet high with barbed wire on top.
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G]
#23482935 - 07/27/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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it also looks like this

this

this

this

this

and this

do you see the problem with the fence?
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23483358 - 07/27/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting. I don't know about Texas or Arizona, but California literally spends hundreds of millions of dollars into catching illegal immigrants crossing the border, so I'm surprised by how the gate looks in other areas.
I will say though, that first image is just the first fence, there are more behind it, I can see it right here (video below):
Really though, even if an entire wall was created, what would prevent people from simply going around the wall and crossing into the ocean? I mean, unless you build a wall 30 miles into the ocean... which I think would be impossible, because of how deep the ocean gets beyond half a mile... and a half-mile, would be an easy 1-hour sail for a raft.
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G]
#23483445 - 07/27/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yep, you won't catch them all so why even try, right?
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Crystal G]
#23483560 - 07/27/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: Interesting. I don't know about Texas or Arizona, but California literally spends hundreds of millions of dollars into catching illegal immigrants crossing the border, so I'm surprised by how the gate looks in other areas.
I will say though, that first image is just the first fence, there are more behind it, I can see it right here (video below):
and in the video it says the fence is to keep people from crossing city to city, he also states that the tall fences only force many to cross where there isnt a fence and where it's more perilous so stop imagining that this fence is a real thing, all it does is put the crossings out of the sight of most people, if you arent seeing it, they can claim they're doing something about it
the fence has huge gaps that arent patrolled so what california is doing is putting on a show, a big musical number and raking in big bucks for their own pockets
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Re: Austria ready for 100km border fence with Hungary [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23483784 - 07/27/16 08:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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We should just put a stop sign up. People listen to those. Right?
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