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First Bulk success!
    #23483632 - 07/27/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So my first bulk grow is nearly complete!

Fairly happy with the results, especially because I wasn't expecting much after i realized a PC was basically necessary for grain.

I did not PC the jars I sterilized the jars with alcohol and steam boiled for 3 hours.

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pasteurized coir/verm at 70C for 60 Min's:



Spawned into 2 trays 1L of popcorn 2L of bulk per tray:



Mixed evenly 2.5 inch deep:



Covered in foil and put inside a tote:



Constructed my SGFC also:



After 3 days:





12 days after spawning, seemed to be going pretty slow.
(realise now because corn has less noc points)

24c little GE in the dark:



Cased and put into fruiting, after 10-12 Days inc:





One week after fruiting!







3 days later:



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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23483707 - 07/27/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

steam sterilized popcorn got some good fruits...  :shockingsurprise:

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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23483766 - 07/27/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

steamed the grains - pasteurized the coir :lol:
surprised they grew that fast on the grains, no surprise it took weeks to colonize the sub tho.


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: spacechildo]
    #23484207 - 07/27/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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steamed the grains - pasteurized the coir :lol:





Kids, don't forget to sterilize your hands.


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: Inocuole]
    #23484325 - 07/28/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Guys leave the nice young man alone. He did good considering. When you have less then perfect spawn you need to pasteurizate even coir. I just firgured this out after my coir keep contaming. Congrats. I expect great things form you op


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: tump]
    #23484355 - 07/28/16 01:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:cheers:


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: SgtPepa]
    #23484360 - 07/28/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can't argue with results! Good job :mushroom2:


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: tump]
    #23484371 - 07/28/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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When you have less then perfect spawn you need to pasteurizate even coir. I just firgured this out after my coir keep contaming.




what a great way to start the day :rofl:


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: spacechildo]
    #23484376 - 07/28/16 02:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:lolsy::facepalm:


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: tump]
    #23484384 - 07/28/16 02:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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When you have less then perfect spawn you need to pasteurizate even coir.




Explain why.

Tell me about why pasteurizing is even a little better than sterilizing or bucket teking the coir.  Because I was under this wild impression that coir does not in fact have any beneficial microbes or bacteria worth saving by using pasteurization temps.  If you understand why we pasteurize and you understand that coir does not have beneficial bacteria, then you will understand that it makes no difference.

The only reason you'd want to pasteurize coir is if you mixed in manure or coffee or another additive, or perhaps thought that you had accidentally mixed manure or coffee, or based on the unlikely chance that perhaps said additives were carelessly mixed in from the very beginning from the distribution center.

Most of what I find in terms of foreign objects in my coir are rocks and small grains.  Grains are going to contam whether you sterilize or pasteurize them, or do nothing at all, if they're in open air.  Sometimes it's just that specific brick of coir that's the problem.  Eco earth is pretty bad about this.  Either way...  :thumbdown: to your drawn conclusion.


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: Inocuole]
    #23484406 - 07/28/16 02:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I ran three tubs at the same day with the same iso strain spawn i had. The bucket tub fail and turned green four days in. I ran the second tub with coir i pc for two hours in jars and it failed on the first flush. My oven pasteurization coir tub is on its third flush. All the coir i have is eco earth. I've had great luck with bucket tek at my old house but my currect one i get mean green or blue slim mold growing out of my coir left in a bucket no spawn add to it. Takes less then a week for my coir to fail all by itself. You all might be right about it not doing anything but i just report what happens to me.


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: tump]
    #23484412 - 07/28/16 02:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Takes less then a week for my coir to fail all by itself.




how do you go from that to bacterial spawn needs properly pasteurized coir??


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: spacechildo]
    #23484416 - 07/28/16 02:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I use the same coir for like, months, out of a bag.  It's your coir man.


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: tump]
    #23484555 - 07/28/16 04:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I ran three tubs at the same day with the same iso strain spawn i had. The bucket tub fail and turned green four days in. I ran the second tub with coir i pc for two hours in jars and it failed on the first flush. My oven pasteurization coir tub is on its third flush. All the coir i have is eco earth. I've had great luck with bucket tek at my old house but my currect one i get mean green or blue slim mold growing out of my coir left in a bucket no spawn add to it. Takes less then a week for my coir to fail all by itself. You all might be right about it not doing anything but i just report what happens to me.



The fuck? That's retarded. Hpoo isn't even like that. I've left pasteurized hpoo in a tub with the lid off for a few months with nothing happening. Something is seriously wrong here.


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: Mad Season]
    #23484609 - 07/28/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23484626 - 07/28/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What's up with the I.E locn9ne? You in so.cal?


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23484891 - 07/28/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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:callingbullshit:



Ikr.. wtf? Coir should last years..

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Tiger are you sure that the coir was the vector? Cause I have used sterilized coir that sat for months. I cased with coir that I bucketed 2 years previous. Are you sure there is no other vector, because to me it looks like a case of corrolation.



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Actually I took it out of the bucket and put it in a ziploc freezer bag. Would open it every few months to get a whiff. Seriously I even sneezed into it once. After about 18 months or so I noticed it was starting to dry out, so I rehydrated it and cased a tub with it. No problems.




If coir molded in less than a week, I'd probably want to sue. Molds are hella harmful for reptiles, and coir is primarily used as reptile bedding. Coir gets shitted and pissed on all day long and still doesn't contaminate, at least it shouldn't.


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: Mad Season]
    #23485507 - 07/28/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah coir going bad that fast is pretty bizarre. I used to use it to grow certain orchid seedlings and it would sit damp/wet in a greenhouse for months on end without decomposing or getting contamed...


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: Greg]
    #23485685 - 07/28/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I use coir for both my python and bufo alvarius. It stays damp and i have
never seen mold on the coir.

The toad is always flinging her water everywhere and i actually had a piece
of wood in there that got mold on the underside that i didnt see and the coir bedding still had no signs of mold :shrug:

Op, good job even with much less than optimal procedure!


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Re: First Bulk success! [Re: natedawgnow]
    #23485915 - 07/28/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This post reminds me of the girlfriend that threw all of that guys grow gear out in the garbage. He re-couped with nothing but a spore print and like $80 worth of stuff.
He steamed his wbs for like 8 hours or something and fruited a few beastly looking tubs.

If anyone has a link to that post - please let me know! I want to print it out and put it on my wall when good times go bad.

Was that Cron? Anyone?  I NEED THIS THREAD PEOPLE!   

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