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Dropping tonight
    #23482854 - 07/27/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I am going to be doing two hits of some really clean L my best friend sent me. In his estimate it's close to 100-125 ugs a hit and I trust his judgement on it.

I will be dropping at 9 PM central time but I just dosed a few grams of kratom for a small sore throat and somewhat achey back from work. I also took 500 mg of phenibut... Will either of these affect the trip at all? I have never done either before dosing.

Also my buddy got me an oz of some really nice gulf coast cubensis. I was wondering what everyone's thoughts might be on maybe  taking a gram or half an 8th two hours in. Never done the combo but have tripped both by themselves countless times.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23482875 - 07/27/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'd take the shrooms, but that's me. I loved combing mushrooms, LSD, and MDMA. I imagine just the two is pretty intense visually, probably much less euphoric.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23482929 - 07/27/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel ya shade... I love candy flipping but I never made it over to my other buddy to pick up any mdma for either a candy flip or a Jedi flip. My buddy swears by a Jedi flip and says it's his favorite high. I mean I got plenty of L and almost 32 grams of cubies but still need to go get a few hits of M. It's supposed to be pure MDMA but we will see. I trust my buddy but it seems to be rare now-a-days


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23482942 - 07/27/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's weird because it feel so much cleaner than any of those drugs alone. It's such a serene and transcendental feeling.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23482996 - 07/27/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Have you ever taken kratom or phenibut before dosing?


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483007 - 07/27/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm jealous man. Sending you amazing vibes you're gonna have a beautiful trip I had one couple nights ago.

Much love!


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: YeOlde]
    #23483026 - 07/27/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Never taken kratom or phenibut. I imagine since they are both suppose to be calming it'd be fine. Someone else might know more on that.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23483030 - 07/27/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Phenibut will dull down the trip, IME. It's just like benzos or alcohol as far as how it affects trips.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483034 - 07/27/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Have you ever taken kratom or phenibut before dosing?




I drink poppy pod tea before dosing (I'm an opiate addict  anyway) but it always has resulted in a beautiful trip. Not too sure on what kratom would do as it's not a true opiate but anything that hits the opiate receptors must be a good thing. Tends to chill you out and lessen anxiety.

A couple vodkas goes down a treat but not too much... :smile:


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23483038 - 07/27/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks yeolde!! Always appreciate the good vibes! Putting my playlist together right now. Any music suggestions from you guys?

My list always has to have Tool, Radiohead, infected mushroom and flaming lips.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483044 - 07/27/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I took a really small dose of phenibut (500mg) where I usually take 2-3 g's for recreational. I've read where a few people won't trip without a light phen dose. I guess we will see. I mean I also have the option to go as high as I want on the L. I had just decided on the 200-250 mic dose.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483055 - 07/27/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hell yeah brotha im dropping 200mics maybe 300mics depending on the time.. Dropping once I finish my final exam should be around 8-9ish. Have fun hopefully we link up on this site come 2am lol


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483061 - 07/27/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Just as the part about te shrooms my bad!!! I 200mics and 1.2g cubensis and had a great trip on the 11th!!! It makes the visuals more wavy compared to geometrical patterns. I ate mine approx 45 mins after dosing an they conjoined together perfectly! I would reccomend the combo but if you don't trip a lot be careful with half an eight...it can change the whole momentum of the trip

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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: Alprazolambodia]
    #23483065 - 07/27/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: Alprazolambodia]
    #23483067 - 07/27/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I trip pretty regularly but have taken the last year off from almost all substances besides kratom. I just want to have a good time so maybe take a gram two hours in. We will see and I will be on here updating to the best of my ability lol.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483098 - 07/27/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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dcthestar said:
Thanks yeolde!! Always appreciate the good vibes! Putting my playlist together right now. Any music suggestions from you guys?

My list always has to have Tool, Radiohead, infected mushroom and flaming lips.




Man I love this tune when I'm out of the peak on acid it hits me in a nice way!

You're gonna have the best time of your life. Don't take pehnibut it will dull the trip. Opiates and alcohol always have me nice when done before dropping but not too much bro as it can dull it. Just enough to eliminate anxiety. Even a sip of vodka will ease you in nicely!!

You're in for a beautiful time! Is it your first go?



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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: YeOlde]
    #23483116 - 07/27/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Oh no, I've done shrooms probably 50+ times, AMT like 20-30 times and L probably like 9 or 10. Never done them together.

Yeah I took a really small phenibut dose but I'm not worried  because I've taken 2-4mg of Xanax on the come up and the peak and it didn't seem to dull the trip as i tripped 3 times off that same strip of blotter at the same dose. Also phenibut is nowhere near as strong as xannies.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483124 - 07/27/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well bro I personally feel that 0.25mg cxanax kills anxiety and nothing more. for me personally I notice a big diff on acid when I take a whole bar before dropping and none you know? But all biochemistry is different so I won't speak for you.

Either way man I know you'll have a great time. You doing it alone or with friends / lover ?


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: YeOlde]
    #23483136 - 07/27/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

With my wife. We've dropped several times together. Always a good time. We listen to music and paint or she paints as I play guitar. She cool as hell lol.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483148 - 07/27/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fucking beautiful man. I'd love to find a nice girl and trip with. It's a mission of mine. I love playing guitar when I trip I see the sounds when I pluck the guitar in the form of shapes/colors when I drop 2+ tabs.

Check out the tune I posted when you drop I hope you like it. If you like guitar I think you'll like it. I feel the message in their song when high and sober but even more when high! :smile:


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: YeOlde]
    #23483159 - 07/27/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Only 4 non blondes song I know is that one whats going on. Yeah man we been married over 7 years and dosing together is such a bonding experience for us.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483166 - 07/27/16 05:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's the one I posted brother so yeah I guess you'll like it :smile:

LSD is a beautiful drug to do with friends / lovers. How much are you gonna dose on?


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: YeOlde]
    #23483186 - 07/27/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have a few different options so maybe give me some suggestions. My best friend has tripped on all of these and he is a seasoned veteran so I trust his estimates on mics.

- white blotter that is between 100-125 mics (he said these are the cleanest)
- color perforated blotter that he thinks is ~200 mics
- color non perforated blotter that is ~275 mics
- oz of cubes

Like I stated originally I was thinking two hits of the white paper at 200-250 ugs and possibly taking 1 gram of mushies 2 hours in.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483257 - 07/27/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Personally my friend, I think 300 mics is a sweet spot. I tend to find higher doses a bit too hardcore but if you take a dampner (something beforehand to kill anxiety) then a little more is OK!

Perhaps 2.5 hits of White blotter or 1.5 of colored  :smile:

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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: YeOlde]
    #23483269 - 07/27/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Have you ever done a L and mushies combo yeolde? I've done both but never both together. Also, wouldn't I wanna dose a little lower (~200) mics if I'm going to add in a gram or so of some boomers?


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483336 - 07/27/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

MM yeah. I have to say I've never done that combo. Hopefully Mike4Aco can chime in. He's an expert with combos here in this sub-forum. When I was coming down from L I felt a strong urge to take some shrooms but I figured it would be wasteful due to tolerance.

Sorry I can't offer much advice on that combo. I've done MDMA with L and it was really nice and dreamy.

EDIT: dcthestar- I'm off to sleep. It's late here in England and I believe you're on the other side of the pond! So let me just wish you and the Mr's great vibes for tonight. Update us all with any highlights!

Peace and love bro.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: YeOlde]
    #23483417 - 07/27/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks buddy! Will do! About 45-50 minutes until dose!


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483664 - 07/27/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Dropped 20 minutes ago. Wish me luck!


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483673 - 07/27/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice! How much mush?



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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23483688 - 07/27/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I dropped two hits of the white blotters, so the 200-250 mic range and I have a gram of mush weighed out for around the 90-120 minute range from L dose.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23483755 - 07/27/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Positive vibrations! I've only combined LSD and Mescaline,  it was beautiful and amazing very introspective spiritual and cleansing as Well as has jaw dropping i remember seeing cave drawing  like monkeys and jaguar and tigers in my carpet and the cactus spirit kept telling me to slow down and quit living life so fast and the L made me feel like holy shit there is a chemist out there who knows they did this to me? ( in hinesight) was an amazing trip lol


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23483835 - 07/27/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Flaming lips always does the trick!:sun:


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar] * 1
    #23483939 - 07/27/16 09:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

shrooms and lsd is an excellent combo. About 2 grams would be appropiate for 2 hits, assuming the cubes are potent.

Good luck, its gunna be one heck of a ride!

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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #23484016 - 07/27/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

L has kicked in nicely now so I took a gram of cubes.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23484100 - 07/27/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I second that another gram could be nice


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23484183 - 07/27/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Dropped 20 minutes ago. Wish me luck!




Youre way ahead of me, just ate a some amount of shrooms with chrunch n munch and a half hit of acid about 10mins ago.

Here we go :mindblown:


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    #23484213 - 07/27/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Positive vibes brother!! I ended up at 3 grams lol. lovin it :mushroom2:


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23484217 - 07/27/16 11:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Dang! :eek:

Well done man, feel the Positive Love :heart:


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar]
    #23484257 - 07/28/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Whaddup dude man!

Have a sick Time my friend in sure you already are!

Gunna be dosing some shroomies in a couple hours. It looks like a bunch of us will be on the plane tonight. I'll be sure to welcome you if we cross paths hahah imagine that.

Definitely making a good old jam sandwich on the guitar with my bros on the drums and bass!

Don't forget pink floyd! It's easy to forget how sick they are after a while but dark Side of the moon is still up there with the best. Fucking Time man. Genius.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: Pass the Myce]
    #23484262 - 07/28/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I agree. I just watched the making of wish you were here documentary a couple of weeks ago. I never knew they were so done with Floyd in a way they could just walk away and say you know dark side was our best and if that's how were remembered then word. But the weird shit that synched up with that album and shine on and Syd showing up at the studio and the rest of the band has no idea it's him. They have before and after photos of Syd and there's no way you would EVER know.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: dcthestar] * 1
    #23484385 - 07/28/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

As soon as my stomach feels better I'm gonna dose a usual kratom burn for me. I feel fantastic and could almost fall asleep. :heart:


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    #23485180 - 07/28/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Man sounds like you rocked it! Can't wait to hear more on the combo :smile:


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    #23486292 - 07/28/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I had a blast!! Definitely a fun combo but not as synergistic as L and Mdma which is a beautiful mix. I would be willing to revisit this combo in the future especially if I could add some M for a Jedi flip.

The shrooms transformed the hard fractal edges of L into more sludgy, breathing swirls. Color was really enhanced for me as well. I didn't experience any of the confusion I've read about this combo causing. However, I can see in a way how some people believe the two are fighting in your head for what trip you're going to get. L is definitely the main driver but smush changes gears and also produces a more relaxed comedown it seems.

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    #23486471 - 07/28/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Glad to hear. My Jedi flip visuals were extremely intense. I saw a dirt road melt and curve like a snake and stay in that direction. Sitting in a room of people on L I could hardly see them or my hand in front of my face because of the color haze.


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    #23486656 - 07/28/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Absolutely. Definitely will be doing a Jedi flip very soon. Probably the next time I go up in a few weeks. What were your doses on each substance for the jedi shade?

I would really like to shoot for a 250 mic L dose, 2 grams shrooms and maybe a 100 mg M dose followed by a 75mg M booster. But that's just my rough estimate with the tools I have right now to get there. Maybe even go to 300 mics. I've done a few candy flips and have always loved them immensely.


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    #23486750 - 07/28/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

75ug LSD, 2g shrooms, 150mg MDMA all taken at same time.


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    #23486783 - 07/28/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The M comedown while still trippin on the AL suck at all? That's kinda why I always have a booster.


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    #23486795 - 07/28/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not really the visuals just changed and it got less euphoric after a while.


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Re: Dropping tonight [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple]
    #23487428 - 07/28/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've never ate shrooms and L together but that does sound like it would be a fun combo! I've done L and mdma and that was fun they cancelled each other out a lil it seemed like but it still was good. I bet visuals on a shrooom/L combo are quite fun def gonna try it someday :wink:


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