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    #23482357 - 07/27/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23482379 - 07/27/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Those don't look good man. I would say trash it but let someone else weigh in first.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: The Mycologist]
    #23482389 - 07/27/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

those are the most bacterial cakes I've literally ever seen. Please throw them away man.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23482432 - 07/27/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Those cakes are moldy as fuck  :puke: definitely toss them and start over


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: Specops2594]
    #23482448 - 07/27/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yup, lots of mold. they are trash. get that out of your house ASAP


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: mupetmower]
    #23482503 - 07/27/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23482512 - 07/27/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

the green and blue spots are mold.

you said you the jars stalled and stopped growing? so was the middle not colonized? that could be a reason it got contam, because you took it out of the jar and left the uncolonized substrate on, and put it in open air.

either way, its definitely trash.

the others have been sitting in their jars for two months?? and they havent finished colonizing? they probably got bacterial. did you PC the jars? use SAB? flame the syringe needle before inoc?


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: mupetmower]
    #23482549 - 07/27/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: bullethead454]
    #23483077 - 07/27/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23483143 - 07/27/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:doublefacepalm:


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23483149 - 07/27/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

umm not all blue bruising mushrooms are active. blue bruising does not automatically mean its a cube. it seems you didnt learn much from your ID mess.

but i guess i get what you mean...

also, if you want to ensure your culture is clean before using it as inoculant, you should learn agar. you can use a spore syringe to inoc a plate. it doesnt have to be from a print. you can start at The Agar Portal. that has basically anything you need to know about agar.

Also, though, you probably need to do some more reading about The Basics. Along with the Principles of the SGFC, since youre doing cakes.


and anything else can probably be found here.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: TheChief]
    #23483281 - 07/27/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23483328 - 07/27/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:facepalm:


good luck dude.. youre gonna need it.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: mupetmower]
    #23483429 - 07/27/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just read up on that ID mess...WOW...


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: lvnthalife]
    #23483439 - 07/27/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: bullethead454]
    #23484130 - 07/27/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23484139 - 07/27/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

wow... good job surviving 9 more yrs man! I take it you havent been out much picking mushrooms since? :tongue2:

your jars look bacterial, may not matter much if they colonize 100% but follow the proper pf-tek for best success.

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23484214 - 07/27/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23484382 - 07/28/16 02:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

why do people keep bringing up their education? Like it somehow matters when it comes to mush cult? Not just you, seen several people do that just the last couple days..

"you need more FAE".
"NO way dude, I got a master in physics"
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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23484521 - 07/28/16 04:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23484538 - 07/28/16 04:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was sincerely curious, what does your degrees have to do with mush cult?
Do you normally use your degrees as an arguement in everyday life when questioned on something completely different?

I used to be able to do summersaults, but you dont see me using that as an argument for why my sterile technique is impeccable :shrug:


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
    #23484774 - 07/28/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

so wait, you say you took two "samples" to inoc some rye? do you mean you took some myc from these brf cakes to inoc that rye?

these jars are probably harboring large amounts of bacteria, so now they rye you just inoc's with them is going to have that same bacteria. also, how did you do this? did you use an SAB or any sorta of sterile procedures? or did you just do it all in open air with your hands or something?

the disinfectant spray isnt going to do much for you. it doesnt sterilize anything. you should build a Still Air Box. and also read more on sterile techniques you you can inoculate your jars as cleanly as possible. That link i gave you called "The Basics" will answer a lot of these questions, and lead you in the right direction.

and i saw you mentioned a "grow tent", but also said you have a SGFC? whats going on with all that? the way the SGFC is made, it needs to be in a fairly open space, not in any sort of tent. The link about the "Principles of SGFC" will explain how the SGFC is supposed to work, and how to set it up in the proper area.


space is right though, that those are bacterial. 2 months is a really long time to fully colonize. if you see a jar stall, it could mean that there is bacteria preventing it from finishing. also, you have thee tall 1/2pint jars, when pf tek calls for the wide ones. it uses the wide ones for a reason. the tall jars can often stall before getting to the bottom. in this case, its best to try and catch it close to when it stops growing, and birth it, rinse all the uncolonized sub off, and dunk/roll/SGFC as normal. any uncolonized sub left on the cake will likely get moldy. but these may be too far past that point.

it is a good thing that you have more stuff on the way. this next time, just try to follow the tek exactly. wide jars, flaming the needle between jars, and a SAB will only help.



oh another question, were these DIY, or did you buy the jars premade? if they were premade jars that could be another reason why the got bacterial. the verm layer couldve shifted during shipping, or the jars couldve been older than the vendor said, or any number of other reasons. DIY is the way to go. plus you save lots of money, you get to ensure you have made them the best you can, and its really easy.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: mupetmower]
    #23487555 - 07/28/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23487577 - 07/28/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you can open jars without a SAB.
how to use a sgfc https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23487781 - 07/28/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23487788 - 07/28/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

ok good so you dont do it like this anymore;
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Either way, I did a dunk and roll on these (24 hours in sterilized water).

Here's where they're at now (again, I completely sterilized the tent, and everything in it (SGFC, Perlite, Heater, Lamp, Tent), yesterday):






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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23487800 - 07/28/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23487843 - 07/28/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you stuck it in a tent which is the exact opposite the tek tells you to.

for the other q's checkout stuff like spitball's the basic and frankhorrigan how i do my shit.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23487954 - 07/29/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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    #23488030 - 07/29/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23488064 - 07/29/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

TEK never says to put sgfc in tent, if you read more than the OP all your q's are answered :thumbup:


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23488120 - 07/29/16 02:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23488173 - 07/29/16 03:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you're not supposed to have threads locked.
I'm not argumentative i'm trying to save your grow. if that's the thanks i get do whatever you want, i'm out! :leaving:


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
    #23488364 - 07/29/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've been away a super long time, but just want to weigh in: If you have a bunch of partially colonized but contaminated cakes, you can do this.

Dig yourself a shallow hole, how big is up to you. 4'x2'6" deep should be fine. Mix in manure, then break your contaminated cakes into the hole. You can break off the majority of contaminants, but it wont hurt your chances. This is what I had to do, when my jars contaminated a year or two back. I was left over with 3 colonized pieces from 3 otherwise fucked jars. So I was left with about half a jar, which I broke up into my hole. I ended up with flush after flush for a few months, and pulled about a quarter pound total after drying.


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    #23488714 - 07/29/16 09:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23497201 - 07/31/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23497764 - 08/01/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

thye look like the need more FAE.


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    #23497852 - 08/01/16 08:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23497861 - 08/01/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

putting them in a SGFC would be ideal.. read that entire link. it explains how and why that works the way it does. and why the mushrooms want that type of environment(ie, FAE). your tub looks like it only have those tiny holes where the cake it, which probably isnt providing enough FAE.

also, are those cakes sitting directly on the perlite? if so, you need to put them on a piece of foil or something, instead.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: mupetmower]
    #23497881 - 08/01/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Google "PF tek done right tek" follow it exactly

I'd also
Google "pasty plates" but make them with a self healing injection port so if they look clean u can just shoot water in and suck up LC


Put a drop of spores on a few pasty plates so u can keep trying without needing more spores and knock up some proper cake jars and clone some pins using the pasty plates


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    #23497896 - 08/01/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23497897 - 08/01/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yes you mist the cakes directly. they love water. you mist until the surface is glistening with tiny beads of moisture, and then let that evap and mist again when dry.

and that is not a SGFC. read the link i just gave you...


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    #23497901 - 08/01/16 09:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23497985 - 08/01/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23497997 - 08/01/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

"other than the holes".....

it's not a SGFC at all without those holes, dude. if you rerad the article, then you should understand why it needs all those holes, where and how they are...


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: mupetmower]
    #23498009 - 08/01/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23498019 - 08/01/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

to modify it, just take the cakes out, pour the perlite in a bin/bucket/whatever, drill your holes then put it all back. this would add zero extra risk of contamination. fruiting isnt a sterile process.

and i kept reiterating it, because you kept saying you had a SGFC already, which is completely untrue.. just trying to help you, dude.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23498266 - 08/01/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:

Mupet is determined today!

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: morty422] * 1
    #23498324 - 08/01/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

are you seriously deleting all of your posts and questions?

read the rules dude. :facepalm:


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    #23498340 - 08/01/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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are you seriously deleting all of your posts and questions?

read the rules dude. :facepalm:



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    #23498343 - 08/01/16 01:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23498382 - 08/01/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:banbanban:


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    #23498385 - 08/01/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Triple delete post. That's got to be a record


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    #23498389 - 08/01/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

He did it twice on one page too.


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    #23498392 - 08/01/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
    #23498483 - 08/01/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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ok good so you dont do it like this anymore;
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Either way, I did a dunk and roll on these (24 hours in sterilized water).

Here's where they're at now (again, I completely sterilized the tent, and everything in it (SGFC, Perlite, Heater, Lamp, Tent), yesterday):









Quoting for posterity.  Also saved the images, so you if you delete them, I'll just upload them again.

Awesome how little you were able to learn in 9 years, what a failure.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: Inocuole]
    #23498710 - 08/01/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If dudes been around 9 years and made bacteria PF cakes he's probably a rat


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: BaronVonBud]
    #23498869 - 08/01/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

go to his ratings and read the thread that's linked there... it's nuts dude.. this guy..


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: mupetmower]
    #23498910 - 08/01/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

" I found some some random mushrooms and put them in my mouth to observe the bruising" lol I guess he's a caveman


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23499053 - 08/01/16 04:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:godfuckingdammit: Were fucked.

No way your 18+ :whattefuck2:


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    #23499066 - 08/01/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: JacobStorm]
    #23499767 - 08/01/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I doubt he's been on since he was 9 so he's an adult
Why someone would use the site for 9 years for non mushroom, I grow Oyster for local chefs, is beyond me tho


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23499785 - 08/01/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Shouldn't have made the thread to begin with if you were going to want it deleted.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: Inocuole]
    #23501154 - 08/02/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

especially since all of this, that was said, couldve easily been found with a quick and simple search.


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