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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23484538 - 07/28/16 04:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I was sincerely curious, what does your degrees have to do with mush cult?
Do you normally use your degrees as an arguement in everyday life when questioned on something completely different?

I used to be able to do summersaults, but you dont see me using that as an argument for why my sterile technique is impeccable :shrug:


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
    #23484774 - 07/28/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

so wait, you say you took two "samples" to inoc some rye? do you mean you took some myc from these brf cakes to inoc that rye?

these jars are probably harboring large amounts of bacteria, so now they rye you just inoc's with them is going to have that same bacteria. also, how did you do this? did you use an SAB or any sorta of sterile procedures? or did you just do it all in open air with your hands or something?

the disinfectant spray isnt going to do much for you. it doesnt sterilize anything. you should build a Still Air Box. and also read more on sterile techniques you you can inoculate your jars as cleanly as possible. That link i gave you called "The Basics" will answer a lot of these questions, and lead you in the right direction.

and i saw you mentioned a "grow tent", but also said you have a SGFC? whats going on with all that? the way the SGFC is made, it needs to be in a fairly open space, not in any sort of tent. The link about the "Principles of SGFC" will explain how the SGFC is supposed to work, and how to set it up in the proper area.


space is right though, that those are bacterial. 2 months is a really long time to fully colonize. if you see a jar stall, it could mean that there is bacteria preventing it from finishing. also, you have thee tall 1/2pint jars, when pf tek calls for the wide ones. it uses the wide ones for a reason. the tall jars can often stall before getting to the bottom. in this case, its best to try and catch it close to when it stops growing, and birth it, rinse all the uncolonized sub off, and dunk/roll/SGFC as normal. any uncolonized sub left on the cake will likely get moldy. but these may be too far past that point.

it is a good thing that you have more stuff on the way. this next time, just try to follow the tek exactly. wide jars, flaming the needle between jars, and a SAB will only help.



oh another question, were these DIY, or did you buy the jars premade? if they were premade jars that could be another reason why the got bacterial. the verm layer couldve shifted during shipping, or the jars couldve been older than the vendor said, or any number of other reasons. DIY is the way to go. plus you save lots of money, you get to ensure you have made them the best you can, and its really easy.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: mupetmower]
    #23487555 - 07/28/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23487577 - 07/28/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you can open jars without a SAB.
how to use a sgfc https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23487781 - 07/28/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23487788 - 07/28/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

ok good so you dont do it like this anymore;
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bullethead454 said:
Either way, I did a dunk and roll on these (24 hours in sterilized water).

Here's where they're at now (again, I completely sterilized the tent, and everything in it (SGFC, Perlite, Heater, Lamp, Tent), yesterday):






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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23487800 - 07/28/16 11:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23487843 - 07/28/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you stuck it in a tent which is the exact opposite the tek tells you to.

for the other q's checkout stuff like spitball's the basic and frankhorrigan how i do my shit.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23487954 - 07/29/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: bullethead454]
    #23488030 - 07/29/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23488064 - 07/29/16 02:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

TEK never says to put sgfc in tent, if you read more than the OP all your q's are answered :thumbup:


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting *DELETED* [Re: spacechildo]
    #23488120 - 07/29/16 02:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23488173 - 07/29/16 03:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you're not supposed to have threads locked.
I'm not argumentative i'm trying to save your grow. if that's the thanks i get do whatever you want, i'm out! :leaving:


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: spacechildo]
    #23488364 - 07/29/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've been away a super long time, but just want to weigh in: If you have a bunch of partially colonized but contaminated cakes, you can do this.

Dig yourself a shallow hole, how big is up to you. 4'x2'6" deep should be fine. Mix in manure, then break your contaminated cakes into the hole. You can break off the majority of contaminants, but it wont hurt your chances. This is what I had to do, when my jars contaminated a year or two back. I was left over with 3 colonized pieces from 3 otherwise fucked jars. So I was left with about half a jar, which I broke up into my hole. I ended up with flush after flush for a few months, and pulled about a quarter pound total after drying.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23497764 - 08/01/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

thye look like the need more FAE.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: bullethead454]
    #23497861 - 08/01/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

putting them in a SGFC would be ideal.. read that entire link. it explains how and why that works the way it does. and why the mushrooms want that type of environment(ie, FAE). your tub looks like it only have those tiny holes where the cake it, which probably isnt providing enough FAE.

also, are those cakes sitting directly on the perlite? if so, you need to put them on a piece of foil or something, instead.


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Re: First Grow - Mazapatec - PFK - Just started fruiting [Re: mupetmower]
    #23497881 - 08/01/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Google "PF tek done right tek" follow it exactly

I'd also
Google "pasty plates" but make them with a self healing injection port so if they look clean u can just shoot water in and suck up LC


Put a drop of spores on a few pasty plates so u can keep trying without needing more spores and knock up some proper cake jars and clone some pins using the pasty plates


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