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Can someone help clear things up for me :)
    #23482184 - 07/27/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So Ive done pf tek a few times, and its fun i enjoy it but its getting time to move things along. Ive started to read up on agar a little but theres so many teks and what not can someone just put in order for me the teks, seems we all start on pf tek so whats the next one people normally do?

I dont want them explaining i can read up here on each tek and ask questions after, but i see bulk, monotubs, agar etc and i dont know which is my next step but i think its got agar in it haha :laugh:

Any help to clear things up would be great ^_^


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23482217 - 07/27/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If I were you, once you have pf tek down I would work on rye grain spawn or even WBS, prep and of course sterile tek, grain to grain transfers, and spawning to a bulk mono or tray in an SGFC.  This is how I started as a noob and it's worked out decently for me. 

I want to try agar work and I've heard lots of good things about it.  I also hear that it's a good step to take after pf tek especially if you are going to be working with grain, liquid cultures, or when you get some good mushies to clone, isolate work in agar.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound] * 2
    #23482268 - 07/27/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone does it their own way. Here's how I would progress given what your situation is.

Order Petri dishes and premix agar from sponsors. If you plan on growing for a couple years at least go ahead and get the 500 case of petris, it's only like 110$.
Continue whatever grows your have now on cakes. In the mean while pour plates, maybe 50-100 to be ready to use when great growth worth saving appears.

What I mean is clusters. This is where culturing with agar is very helpful. Essentially tearing open the fruit, taking a piece of tissue and placing it on blank agar dishes will copy the genetics and allow you to expand them indefinitely if proper techniques are used and sterility is kept throughout.
To learn about agar and culturing check out a popular easy to read pictorial thread called something like " cleaning and isolation on agar" by a user stropharios (spelling?) if you use the search bar with those terms it will come up. Read it five times, and again every day for a week.

Checkout another thread called "how it should and shouldn't look: a new cultivators guide" great pictorial, just what the title implies. Book mark it. Refer back to it often.

Once you have a clean culture on agar I love using grain spawn. Grain like rhy, wheat, millet, oats, wild bird seed and more just need to be hydrated to a proper level.

Learn this by reading and ultimately by trial and error over many grows, reading well regarded tells will get you in the right direction faster. Foomans wbs tek is a great and easy one. I used it for years for hundreds of pounds of grain.
Using wide mouth quart jars,plastic lids with a 1/8 inch hole drilled and fitted underneath with a full synthetic filter disc would be a good choice.

I would buy a few dozen, no more than 5 dozen. (It takes 4-7 quarts per 66qt monotub, each yielding 4-7 dry oz (genetics play a large role here). So decide what scale you want to work at.

Maybe you only need two dozen.
Once you've hydrated your grain and your filtered jars and sterilized for about two hours at 15psi using sterile techniques in a still air box move the clean agar plate into one jar per plate. You will expand to 10x so take great care when making grain masters.

Once transfered it's a waiting game on colonization. Keep at room tempature in ambient light. A grain master should colonize in less than 10 days if the culture is strong. Shake once or twice around 30% and again at 100% to test recovery before expanding.

Once colonized prepair more grain jars (or bags) to expand to. 10x per successfully colonized grain master. Break up your grain masters. Using as sterile technique as possible in a still air box move a tenth of the contents of the grain master into a receiving jar and tighten the receiving jars lid.

Repeat nine times until you've exhausted your grain master jar.
Shake these receiving jars up and wait about a week or two. No more.

Choose a substrate to spawn them too. Substrates are like a sponge for mushrooms to draw water from. Common substrates are coco coir like in damion5050's elementary coir tek AKA bucket tek. Or horse manure/vermiculite.
Which ever you choose follow a well regarded tek and read it well repeatedly along with the comments keeping in mind some comments are fluff, just look for good questions and answers that are often addressed after the original post.

Grab a few 66qt tubs and a 1.5 inch hole saw. Make monotubs. They're easy. Grab some poly fill while you're out. This is used to regulate the air flow.  Here is a easy monotub pictorial https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8231041
Once your spawn is looking healthy and your prepaired your monotub and substrate clean an area to spawn your tubs. Wear gloves to mix the stuff and clean the tub before filling it with your material mix.

stuff the 6 monotub holes with poly and mix the spawn and substrate evenly very well. Do not press on it but gentle make it level and smooth in every direction. Save two big handfuls of substrate before you mix the spawn/substrate.
After the mixing and leveling is done use these two handfuls to making a 1/4inch casing on top of the mixed materials.
Now put the lid on and label it with a date.
Repeat for however many jars you have.
Start many grain masters to reduce risk of contams.

Hope this helps :stoned:


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: filthyknees]
    #23482367 - 07/27/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wow thanks for the replies, so a lot of reading for me to do now then hey haha, sounds long winded and complicated but then i guess once done it a few times it becomes easy :smile:

Ill carry on studying agar and list what ill need to buy,  then ill move onto the next bit you mentioned :laugh:

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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23482383 - 07/27/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

its not that complicated; start your culture on agar, clean it up by transferring, use agar wedge to inoculate grains, use grains to spawn to bulk sub in a monotub, wait, tada!


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23482393 - 07/27/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If i can get this down then i can try get a PE culture and have a do with those cant i ^_^

I kinda understand the agar part as been reading i have one or two questions but i might find those answers so im not asking anything yet, then ill start reading on next bit list all i need and start buying my supplies. I have all thats needed for pf tek and a pc, spores and such so i dont need too much really :smile:


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23482412 - 07/27/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

you can also buy glad mini rounds or something like those, instead of petri dishes, if you want. thats what Pastywhyte's Easy Agar Tek is all about. plus they are reusable. thats how i started with agar, with that one simple tek, since i wanted to get my sterile tek down before getting into petris.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23482428 - 07/27/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah thats the tek on agar i was reading actually :laugh: seems pretty straight forward to do. Few bits ill have to buy but main thing is the pc and i have that haha!

So when you put something into agar, it can be culture, spores, or even a mushroom?


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23482444 - 07/27/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There's only two parts to mushrooms. Spores and mycelium.

Petris can work with either, it's like a blank page for whatever you put on it.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: filthyknees]
    #23482737 - 07/27/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Those glad mini rounds, is there a UK version lol, seems need to come from abroad and shipping is muchos monies ^_^


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23482753 - 07/27/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

any container made of polypropylene plastic (PP) will do! just make sure the lid is PP as well, or it'll melt.

ebay has tons, but many vendors have no clue what they're selling..


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23482758 - 07/27/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

umm, idk.. i mean, you dont have to get actual Glad Minis. The ziplock containers(which are squares, actually) work well, also.

i actually found these at my local dollar store:



The smaller ones with the white lid were 10 for a dollar and the red were 5 for a dollar. both work great. both withstand the PC and everything.

as long as you use containers that say pp5 on them, then it should be fine. you can also even use things like 1/4pint jars, or anything like that.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23482766 - 07/27/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cool thanks :laugh:

Is a place not far from me has loads of tub ware type things ill go have a rummage one day :laugh: i think i prefer those that go in pc to start rather than pc the mix then pour etc.

Ok well ive read a few diff agar threads, made a shopping list, time to move onto next bit :smile:


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23482787 - 07/27/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah well you don't know until you try. It's fine to like easy agar but you'll get a lot more done easily the "hard" way.

*steps out of the way of flurry of pp5 containers are best posts to come*

Been through 1500+ poured petris. Good way to get good techniques down. Don't think I'll ever pour less than 100 at a time from now on. And it takes a few hours.
I've also done over a hundred easy agar dishes

Whatever way works, but try a bunch of stuff over time, at least


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: filthyknees]
    #23482794 - 07/27/16 04:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:rofl: well i plan to try both in time, then see what i think. This just seems a nice easy noob introduction to agar is all  :smile:


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23482798 - 07/27/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That it is. You'll laugh at being afraid to use poured petris once you've done a hundred or so.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: filthyknees]
    #23482888 - 07/27/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Looking up the items i need its gonna be cheap to get as only need a few bits, if i get petri dishes, which are cheap enough here, and go for pour after i cook my mix i just stick inside something and put in pc is that right? If so i may just do pour as seems easy enough then.

Edit - no need to answer i found another few teks and im all clued up now ^_^ haha exciting :laugh: learning grain jars, transfers and montubs then im done, i think :smile:


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23483117 - 07/27/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i actually just ordered some petris a couple days ago.. the thing i hate about no pour is having to wrap every damn plate in foil before PC.. i despise that part.. so damn much..

just wanted to get technique down a little before wasting a lot of petris possibly.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23483128 - 07/27/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah after continued reading, i think im gonna go with the perti dishes, pyrex bottle to sterilise the agar mix within the pc, yup,  thats my new plan ^_^ hahaha :smile:

Seems transfer to grains then look at monotubs and i should have a super duper harvest if i dont balls it all up :rofl2:


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    #23483334 - 07/27/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yep. Sterilize the agar 40 minutes at 15psi. Let it cool two hours in the pc.

Get a couple sleeves and the agar bottle wiped with 70% ISO in the still air box, let the air settle for a few minutes.
Then carefully unwrap the sleeves and stack in two stacks of ten.

Lift the bottom plate with the stack on top and pout the bottom most plate, then lift the second from the bottom and repeat.
Pour until you're out, cover the sab arm holes for about an hour (or however long to solidify the agar).
If you aren't using them right away then restack into 20 and slip the included sleeve back over the stack, of course still in the sab .

Once they're bagged label them with the date and recipie of agar like light malt extract (lme) or whatever.

After you use the plates to recieve spores or mushroom tissue you have to wrap them individually using parafilm or cling wrap. I usually wrap them, then while still in the sab put them four at a time into fresh unopened sandwich bag, which come sterile inside, to double cover my ass from contams.

From there if you need to transfer to isolate or just expand just unwrap the plates in the sab, wipe well with ISO, make transfers then reseal. Once you have clean growth on agar it takes about a week for a plate to colonize to use in transfer to grain jars.

If you're struggling to see what I mean just YouTube search "pouring agar" but beware dumb asses on youtube, always check many sources


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: filthyknees]
    #23483412 - 07/27/16 07:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks so much :smile: theres so many helpful folks here, and ao many good threads on the different teks and ways, ive enjoyed reading them and deciding which i feel may work for me.

I just said to someone in a pm, as i read up and learn it, i realise me doing pf tek - ive wasted so many spores!! They go nowhere really when you consider how far a spore can go this way ^_^ :rofl:


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23483432 - 07/27/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

after 1 grow you have so many spores you dont know what to do with them! Growing mushrooms is never a waste of spores in my opinion :wink::thumbup:


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23488986 - 07/29/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No but upon understanding the diff ways to agar, i see when i pf tek i use a full syringe for a set of cakes, but doing agar one spore can pretty much go forever hahaha.

So im totally cool on agar now, i have a shopping list, so please can anyone link me to a decent grains tek, how to make the grain jars up etc please, i wana learn that now and make another shopping list ^_^


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound] * 1
    #23489013 - 07/29/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I just bought these that a member forgot to post the link in the start of his thread very funny but awesome find
http://www.agarscientific.com/polypropylene-petri-dishes.html
And also its UK based so postage is reasonable for us for a change


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23489113 - 07/29/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah postage is a pain, i been looking up odd items, and was looking for those sterile cotton tipped applicators, found some on ebay but all usa so like £12 shipping, the things are cheap for a box of 100 individually wrapped, but with shipping :frown: i havent found any in uk


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23489125 - 07/29/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Use an innoc loop if using spores get one of eBay for a couple quid with spare loop wire unless you prefer/require swabs


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    #23489133 - 07/29/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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    #23489148 - 07/29/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, ive saved that web page in my bookmarks, ill have a proper trawl through it later on looks like they got a lot of things :smile: eee tis all exciting starting new projects :laugh:


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    #23489227 - 07/29/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you can simply PC q-tips too, dont have to buy swabs. and I prefer loops over swabs if you're going print - agar.


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    #23489378 - 07/29/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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you can simply PC q-tips too, dont have to buy swabs. and I prefer loops over swabs if you're going print - agar.



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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: mrmazdarx9] * 1
    #23490362 - 07/29/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yes $5 at a pharmacy store, a roll of aluminum foil and qtips.

I filled a gallon bag overflowing full of diy swabs without going through half the qtips. 

I would guess at least 200, and i have more than half the supplies from the $5 pharmacy visit. Itll just take a few hours.

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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: filthyknees]
    #23494472 - 07/31/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Cool thank you :smile:

When it comes to pc the agar mix, if i go with petri and pour, if i cant find a pyrex bottle that fits, is it doable to use a jam jar, sealed, put agar mix inside, put in pc then pour from the jar inside a sab? Or is a proper pyrex bottle preferable?


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23494541 - 07/31/16 04:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

A jar is fine, the bigger mouth makes it a little harder to pour and I guess more area for contaminants to get in but I've probably done the last 200 plates with a jar and not had a single contam from the pour itself as far as I can tell.
I used to use brandy bottle but not sure what i did with it which is why Ive been using a jar, a 750 or 1L bottle if it will fit in your PC is ideal, doesn't need to be pyrex, normal glass bottles will hold up fine for agar use.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: weetsie]
    #23494548 - 07/31/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Cool thanks, i may find one before i start just thought id check first though in case, pc is seven litre i think but the base inside to keep things off bottom reduces the height, but i know jars fit fine :laugh:


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23495006 - 07/31/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Put a gas exchange filter on the bottle lid like synthetic filter disk, poly fill ect


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: filthyknees]
    #23500984 - 08/02/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Can some one please link me to a decent easy tek for prep grains and making grains jars please, and also, i know before i buy them they arent going to stand in the pc with the base inside, what can i do lol ?

Edit - its what to do with the lids im stuck on all teks are different. Im doing agar, to grain, to monotub. I read how to rinse, soak, simmer rye then add to jars, im stuck on do i make one or two holes, do i need poly fill or a filter or ? Its the lids i dunno what to do lol.


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    #23501266 - 08/02/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yeah you need a 1/4" hole or so stuffed with poly, covered with a SFD or similar.
transcendinglife has a writeup on different kinds of lids in his How I do everything list.


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    #23501299 - 08/02/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you :smile:

I think i will buy some of those filters and special glue for them seems easiest way to do it, and theyre only cheap :laugh:

Im getting there now, almost got a full shopping list hahahaha !

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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23501330 - 08/02/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Can some one please link me to a decent easy tek for prep grains and making grains jars please, and also, i know before i buy them they arent going to stand in the pc with the base inside, what can i do lol ?




For the longest time I had a 6L PC and I had to remove the stand to fit jars in. They rattle a bit but other than that it worked fine.


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    #23501383 - 08/02/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ah okay, i thought you couldnt do that haha stand them on the base that is :smile:

Right, im good on agar, good on grains i think now, just monotubs, so be ready for monotub questions hahaha :lol: ill go read a few teks first though.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23501397 - 08/02/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah if you can fit some kind of standoff then definitely use it, but you gotta work with what you got and it works okay without.


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    #23501421 - 08/02/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Brilliant. Think im gonna start buying the bits for the agar part later, i dont need much for that bit so cheap, how i like it hahaha :rofl:


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    #23501609 - 08/02/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

not sure I understand 100% but if you set your glass jars on the bottom of the PC they will crack.
not all at once necessarily but you'll get them.


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: spacechildo]
    #23516345 - 08/06/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok so i have a question that might make some of you go :facepalm3: but i dont know how a pc actually works lol.

I plan to sterilise some q tips individually wrapped in foil and placed in a jar, and then also agar in a bottle before i pour, so my question, when i pc these two do i need a hole in the jar or bottle, or seal them? Will they explode with no hole lol or implode?


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Re: Can someone help clear things up for me :) [Re: Spellbound]
    #23516546 - 08/06/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yes you must have GE for pCing or they will break. You should make a 1/4" hole in the lid and cover with appropriate filter.

I think if you are using the two peice metal lids you can flip the lid over so the metal side is down and just not screw the band all the way down untill you open the pc after sterilizing.


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    #23516553 - 08/06/16 05:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Brilliant thank you for that :thumbup:


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    #23516557 - 08/06/16 05:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think if you are using the two peice metal lids you can flip the lid over so the metal side is down and just not screw the band all the way down untill you open the pc after sterilizing.

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