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    #23481061 - 07/27/16 02:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: ruaware] * 1
    #23481160 - 07/27/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes. It's just a theory, really. But I believe it.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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    #23481164 - 07/27/16 03:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: ruaware] * 2
    #23481183 - 07/27/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think the ego is real and it's part of a Triune modeled brain.
The ego is one of three perspectives a human can experience.
The ID is what you want, the ego is what you need and the super-ego is what you think you should have.


These are the three sections of the brain that govern the three forms of perspective.
ID function = fight or flight response (Reptilian complex governs gut)
Ego function = confidence (Mammalian complex governs heart rate)
Super-Ego function = perception (Neocortex)


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    #23481193 - 07/27/16 03:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: ruaware]
    #23481246 - 07/27/16 04:44 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Watch The lecture by Robert Lanza that Asante posted....it is about egocentrism...Good stuff about the subject.

And yes I belive that we are all part of Cosmos...Like it or not we are connected.

:heart: Much Love to You all! :heart:


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 2
    #23481262 - 07/27/16 04:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

sometimes I am convinced that people cannot understand what they are without going mad.

the way I go mad is by following the breath and observing mental contents.


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: ruaware]
    #23481270 - 07/27/16 04:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Have you experienced ego death?


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I'm sick of all you hypocrites
Holding me at bay
And I don't need your sympathy
To get me through the day
Seasons change and so can I
Hold on boy, no time to cry
Untie these strings, I'm climbing down
I won't let them push me away




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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: ruaware]
    #23481577 - 07/27/16 08:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I started to feel everything was connected when I was very young, early teen years, it wasn't until later that I found much of what I was experiencing, within Buddhist teachings.  I like reading about Buddhism a lot because it gives me a sense of being connected to everything, which makes me treat myself, and this world, in a positive manner.

But I cannot help but think the ego is there, if it's not there then what do you call it when you go out the door and take a look at yourself to make sure you look OK? 

I have thought much about there being two forms of ego, one being the normal ego we need in order to get through life, you know shave for your job, cut your fingernails, shower, brush your teeth, etc.

Then there's the other ego, the bad ego, which is where we start to compare ourselves to others, and want to crush others, show how dominant we can be, brag about our good deeds rather than do them without want of recognition, this bad ego constantly seeks recognition, is based on results alone, and cares nothing for others, only cares about getting ahead and the attention that comes from that.

Sometimes it's scary how connected everything seems, not bad scary, like whoa there's some major truth to this whole connection thing, it really amazes me.

I have not made up mind completely on the subject yet, am still learning.


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: Lucis]
    #23481762 - 07/27/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I remember reading that science said something similar. People are are made out of "star stuff" from the very explosion that created the universe. Our atoms are the same as everyone else and when we die then our bodies go back into the cosmos so to speak.


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: FlowerofTitania]
    #23481784 - 07/27/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel like you cant help but start to think that way after taking a psychedelic. Especially mushrooms. They consistently cause me to feel extreme unity with everything in existence. Usually when that happens to me on mushrooms im also writhing in total orgasm for hours. :thumbup:


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: FlowerofTitania] * 1
    #23481799 - 07/27/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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FlowerofTitania said:
I remember reading that science said something similar. People are are made out of "star stuff" from the very explosion that created the universe. Our atoms are the same as everyone else and when we die then our bodies go back into the cosmos so to speak.




And when you think about it, atoms and molecules don't age.  They don't die.  They've existed at least since the big bang, and perhaps an infinitely long time.  I've often wondered what it means for us mortal beings that we're made of immortal material.


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23481945 - 07/27/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think our mortality comes from the sense of our minds. Our minds aren't eternal, but in some way the body is. I mean, at its base level your body doesn't die, it just gets transmuted to something else.

Any sense of you is only that, a "sense". There are even quite a few papers in sociology that recognize the ego and self as an illusion, but a necessary illusion in order to function in the world. I mean, the very phenomenon of amnesia gives me pause about the self. If I can't remember "who I am" then I would be at the mercy of being created again by others. The self after all, is little more than a story we tell, so what happens when you don't remember the words?


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: FlowerofTitania] * 1
    #23481970 - 07/27/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

FlowerofTitania said:
I think our mortality comes from the sense of our minds. Our minds aren't eternal, but in some way the body is. I mean, at its base level your body doesn't die, it just gets transmuted to something else.

Any sense of you is only that, a "sense". There are even quite a few papers in sociology that recognize the ego and self as an illusion, but a necessary illusion in order to function in the world. I mean, the very phenomenon of amnesia gives me pause about the self. If I can't remember "who I am" then I would be at the mercy of being created again by others. The self after all, is little more than a story we tell, so what happens when you don't remember the words?




Very interesting points.  Yes, in the case of amnesia, it's pretty weird.  It is my understanding that some people, after they've had traumatic brain injury and go through a period of amnesia, often end up having a completely different personality than the one they had before.  In some cases I've heard of, they actually resent what people tell them they used to be like.  Obviously in cases like these, we can see that the personality and the ego are not fixed to anything, they are completely fluid.  This, of course, has very relevant ramifications for the OP.


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23482112 - 07/27/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Makes me wonder why people worry about something so fragile


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: sudly]
    #23482436 - 07/27/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
The ego is one of three perspectives a human can experience.
The ID is what you want, the ego is what you need and the super-ego is what you think you should have.





That's not really what the theory suggests. Your ID description seems in the right area but 'What you think you should have', in particular pertains to ID.

The theory proposes that the ID is the selfish 'automatic' self which fulfils basic need for survival, the superego is the higher moralistic self and the ego is the mediator which culminates an image to project to the world based upon decided quantities of superego and ID combined.

Freud basically only introduced a warm into a 'hot and cold'. It can be applied to any dualism and wasn't particularly revolutionary, regardless of how it perpetuated into some sort of psychological standard, but I'd save him from being pushed off a cliff.


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: ruaware] * 1
    #23482927 - 07/27/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

To think the ego isn't real is to deny a part of reality.

>The big bang happened, all this chemistry and physics just exploded.

Did you just just the universe?


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: Hobozen]
    #23482962 - 07/27/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Is also like to think of it as "all are equal in death". Every King and beggar and teacher and student are all equal and one in death.


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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: FlowerofTitania]
    #23483142 - 07/27/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They say every atom in our bodies was once part of a star
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Re: Does anyone else think our ego doesn't exist and we're all the universe [Re: Starstepper]
    #23483231 - 07/27/16 06:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The Universe doesn't judge, it just is, as it always was. As I am, as I always will be.


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In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply
Different ways in which The
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