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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23483584 - 07/27/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: BTW how are first hand accounts conspiracy theories?
what first hand accounts?
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: shellzenone] 1
#23483977 - 07/27/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Freedom? More like lithium, opium and oil.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Shroomism]
#23484058 - 07/27/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol. no
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23484110 - 07/27/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: lol. no
Ohh, okay. Well, you have totally convinced me.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23484113 - 07/27/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Shroomism]
#23484497 - 07/28/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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OP do you mean that in personal or national level?
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: LeningradCowboy]
#23497572 - 08/01/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mean what? I'm really trying to examine different views. Seems like money is really why the world is so fucked. I wonder... if money lost its value tomorrow, would this world be a better place?
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: shellzenone]
#23501196 - 08/02/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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shellzenone said: Mean what? I'm really trying to examine different views. Seems like money is really why the world is so fucked. I wonder... if money lost its value tomorrow, would this world be a better place?
what an idiotic question.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#23501322 - 08/02/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If there was no more money there would be no motivation to have single agenda pursuits. Trade and barter wouldn't even be the norm. No, it would be theft and kill or be killed. Perhaps some trading.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: shellzenone]
#23501510 - 08/02/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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shellzenone said: Mean what? I'm really trying to examine different views. Seems like money is really why the world is so fucked. I wonder... if money lost its value tomorrow, would this world be a better place?
Other people's Money is what pays for free healthcare and college, what would we do without it, don't be daft!
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: shellzenone] 1
#23510781 - 08/04/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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They are fighting currently for control over middle eastern oil, and Opium production.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Patlal]
#23523965 - 08/09/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patlal said: They fought for their freedom in 1700 something.
They fought for Europe's freedom in 1941
Ever since then, they've been fighting because letting the equipment rust would look bad. So they use the army to "free" countries by bringing "democracy" to countries who never showed interest in democracy the way the US sees it. It's totally not about the oil though.
D-day was in 1944. We sent aid to Europe while we were fighting Japan.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Brian Jones]
#23524050 - 08/09/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd say Korea was borderline legit, as far as wars go, but after that the US became a real shitshow when it came to "National defense".
Thankfully more and more people are waking up to the truth that these wars the US keeps starting serve nobody but the warmachine itself.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Brian Jones]
#23524076 - 08/09/16 06:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not to be an unpatriotic asshole but the USSR basically defeated Germany. %80 of the German divisions were on the Eastern Front.
Once D-day succeeded, there was a huge race between U.S. and the Russians to get to Berlin first. It was more or less a tie, which is how Berlin and the rest of Germany got portioned. One of the biggest issues was who could snatch more of their rocket scientist geniuses. Stalin went from our most vital ally to our worst enemy. Some of our Generals wanted to attack them immediately. They were overruled by Truman, Eisenhower and others. We had the "bomb" but we didn't know far along they were with theirs. And attacking Russia is no trivial task. Our allies were depleted, except maybe Canada, and they were not anxious to go straight into WWIII. We were just getting out of the Great Depression, and rebuilding Europe was how we did it.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Turtletotem]
#23524142 - 08/09/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: I'd say Korea was borderline legit, as far as wars go, but after that the US became a real shitshow when it came to "National defense".
Thankfully more and more people are waking up to the truth that these wars the US keeps starting serve nobody but the warmachine itself.
Yeah morally I can definitely go along with at least "borderline legit", for Korea but if there ever was a war that was a tie, that was it.
What I find kind of weird is that we definitely lost the war in Viet Nam, but it seems like Viet Nam is pretty OK now, relatively speaking. Is every communist revolution horrible, or was Ho Chi Minh (and whoever he left in charge after him) fighting more of an anticolonial revolution against France/US than a Maoist/Marxist-Leninist communist revolution. I haven't studied what happened after Ho and his successors, but lately it seems like they want to have real good relations with the U.S. One of my friends lives there now. I think he got tired of praying in Thai temples with their priests and decided to do it in Viet Nam.
But this is my point. The war in Korea partitioning it in half left us with one good country. The last two insane imbeciles running North Korea are never going to adapt like other countries in Southeast Asia. (OK they aren't South) And in retrospect I think the Korean war was worth fighting and I support our funding of South Korea. I knew a lot of South Koreans in grad school and they were all normal and very grateful for what the U.S. had done for them.
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Brian Jones]
#23524222 - 08/09/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ho Chi Minh wasn't even a real commie, he just "converted" when it became clear to the Vietnamese that the US rhetoric of freedom and democracy means jack shit when a colonial power needs some dirty work done.
The US has been scammed by Frenchies, and the government not only allowed it but played along.
How does that make you feel, Americans?
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Re: Do US soldiers really fight for freedom? [Re: Turtletotem]
#23524253 - 08/09/16 08:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Turtletotem said: Ho Chi Minh wasn't even a real commie, he just "converted" when it became clear to the Vietnamese that the US rhetoric of freedom and democracy means jack shit when a colonial power needs some dirty work done.
The US has been scammed by Frenchies, and the government not only allowed it but played along.
How does that make you feel, Americans?
Makes me feel nothing.
Russia, China and the USA all want to be the king of the mountain. The last and only country with a nuke.
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