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Can you grow in a monotub using trays?
    #23478750 - 07/26/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I have been teaching a buddy of mine how to grow and he inoculated 12 jars.  of the 12 jars he only had 3 jars complete.  he has a 64qt monotub ready to go and didn't want to buy anything else.  So I had him make an Hpoo and Coir sub and we mixed the three jars at a 2:1 ratio (sub:spawn) and put it into two 4 inch deep tin loaf pans.  he then set those into his monotub with the holes covered to consolidate.  they appear to be growing nicely but I am worried about fruiting.  I don't know that there will be enough moisture to keep that large tub RH high enough.  Will this work??  I thought maybe he could put a couple inches of soaked perlite into the bottom of the mono tub once he puts it into fruiting conditions. 

Any advice would be appreciated. 

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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: lbrockman]
    #23478847 - 07/26/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes although it's not ideal as a sgfc. Trays in a regular mono with no perlite 'can' work with loose poly holes. Mist the inside of the tub and tray as needed. Probably will still need some fanning too. Not a good idea though when a proper sgfc can be made easily


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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23478996 - 07/26/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I went the SGFC route.  Just find something to elevate your trays up and off of the perlite. I used a little dish drying rack..



But if you go this route or with trays at all remember to line them with a black trash bags unlike I did so you won't have an outrageous amount of side pins.

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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23479092 - 07/26/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes although it's not ideal as a sgfc. Trays in a regular mono with no perlite 'can' work with loose poly holes. Mist the inside of the tub and tray as needed. Probably will still need some fanning too. Not a good idea though when a proper sgfc can be made easily



Dafuq? Trays in a mono are so much better than sgfc. Sgfc needs perlite exposure to work properly, and with big ass substrates blocking it, they tend to dry the fuck out. I've never seen trays in a sgfc perform as well as my trays in a mono. Also I've been fan free since 2013, so no need to fan. Just adjust it like any other mono.

Every single tray I've used has all been in a monotub.

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If it's going to be filled with different substrates, a mono would be better. SGFC needs some perlite exposure. That's why people use racks for trays. This is what I do with monos, and you don't need it to be filled like this. I've used 1 tray in a mono successfully.








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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: BLINKfan420]
    #23479100 - 07/26/16 03:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I went the SGFC route.  Just find something to elevate your trays up and off of the perlite. I used a little dish drying rack..



But if you go this route or with trays at all remember to line them with a black trash bags unlike I did so you won't have an outrageous amount of side pins.

BLiNK



Um as you can see in my pics I never line my trays lol. You just keep the surface happy and you won't see side pins lol


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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23479636 - 07/26/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I went the SGFC route.  Just find something to elevate your trays up and off of the perlite. I used a little dish drying rack..



But if you go this route or with trays at all remember to line them with a black trash bags unlike I did so you won't have an outrageous amount of side pins.

BLiNK



Um as you can see in my pics I never line my trays lol. You just keep the surface happy and you won't see side pins lol



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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: cronicr]
    #23480114 - 07/26/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Didn't say it wasn't possible or better results by any means. Instead I was trying to keep the perlite idea away from monos. Nothing worse than seeing a sub suffocating bc someone can't dial a tub in right. Plus you are very experienced vs someone who is just starting, which is why I recommended a sgfc over a mono for trays.
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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23480257 - 07/26/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps that is true. I just feel if you're covering the perlite so much that it makes it detrimental, use the substrates evaporation to your advantage like in a mono. I never started with sgfc. Only monos, and I did it quite well back then. Either or are probably fine, I just feel monos are superior, but that's just my opinion.


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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23480355 - 07/26/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Worked fine for me, I started with bbq trays in a MiniMono holes heights as a regular monotub 1 1/2 to 2inches it worked wonders without perlite now i have started using liners in the very same fruiting chambers. Good luck you will do great :smile:

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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: GiBBz]
    #23480489 - 07/26/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

As long as the trays are covering most of the bottom in a mono (IE Mad Season's post) it will work fine. OP mentioned 2 small 4" deep bread trays in a 64q tub. That's going to be too much space to provide decent humidity levels for the sub to fruit. Sgfc will most likely be the best option for OP or the trays will stall.


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Re: Can you grow in a monotub using trays? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23482206 - 07/27/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes although it's not ideal as a sgfc. Trays in a regular mono with no perlite 'can' work with loose poly holes. Mist the inside of the tub and tray as needed. Probably will still need some fanning too. Not a good idea though when a proper sgfc can be made easily



Dafuq? Trays in a mono are so much better than sgfc. Sgfc needs perlite exposure to work properly, and with big ass substrates blocking it, they tend to dry the fuck out. I've never seen trays in a sgfc perform as well as my trays in a mono. Also I've been fan free since 2013, so no need to fan. Just adjust it like any other mono.

Every single tray I've used has all been in a monotub.

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Mad Season said:
If it's going to be filled with different substrates, a mono would be better. SGFC needs some perlite exposure. That's why people use racks for trays. This is what I do with monos, and you don't need it to be filled like this. I've used 1 tray in a mono successfully.







The trays he is using are close to the size in your pictures Mad Season (a tiny bit narrower but a bit longer) but just two of them.  I definitely know how to dial in a monotub so I can show him that easily.  I am glad to see people have done this and done it successfully, that was the main reason for the post.  I think when fruiting comes around I will just get the tub dialed in for him and we will see what happens.  if I cant get it to keep the humidity up Ill add a bunch more polyfill to the holes and have him start a mist/fan regimen to keep good FAE. 

Thanks for all the feedback! :thumbup:


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