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Psilocybe virgnsis
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Diy glove box
#23479848 - 07/26/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi everyone just wanted to share this glovebox I made out of a toy chest with hard and soft clear plastic, duct/duck tape and wind breaker sleeves The soft plastic is from those sheet/quilt cases (king size) Hard center plastic need another thats not that scratched up
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dankington
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You want a "still air box" not a glove box. I made mine for about $10 and didn't ruin my children's furniture  But nice effort.
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Psilocybe virgnsis
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My kids have grown out of using it and was going to be sold at a garage sale BUT used it towards my benefit instead
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Well, then good job. Just remember, a good SAB has large holes. Mine are around 6" in diameter and barely big enough. You want little air movement, and large holes aid in that. What's nice is the vertical space you have, which is nice for G2G transfers.
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Psilocybe virgnsis
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Thanks I had to upgrade to a pink and blue tote for their toys it was a crazy mess, the center piece is completed detached from the sides allowing ventilation in form of slits the center piece is hinged up top.
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You... do not want ventilation.
I would really just throw that away and use a tote with holes in it for your arms. A toy chest with gloves attached is the most ridiculous thing, I can only imagine the drafts that pulls in there.
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Re: Diy glove box [Re: Inocuole]
#23481034 - 07/27/16 01:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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The slits sides overlap each other, the tote is 1 complete mold, the gloves are not attached, the gloves are put on and then enters through the sleeve, wow you guys are really hard to impress, I feel confident in its efficacy, be that as it may, time will tell.
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d0urd3n
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Psilocybe virgnsis said:time will tell.
Yep. But even if it does seem to be relatively draft free, looks like a pain in the ass to work in. Just listen to others here and buy a tote.
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Re: Diy glove box [Re: d0urd3n]
#23481067 - 07/27/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also the glove box is placed on a table, really comfortable actually trust me im putting in alot of time and research and taking my time I dont want to fail, there are things im still figuring out.
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One thing you are about to figure out at your own expense is that a still air box is what you need. We are not hard to impress, it is just really not the best route for new cultivators to insist their method is better than the advice an experienced cultivator is offering, with seconds.
It's not hard to build a proper SAB....

But do go ahead and find out for your own benefit.
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This is how I made mine.
No cutting no drilling. Plastic box (like the one used for SGFC), remove the lid and use cling film to cover the top. Use tape on the cling film to contain the holes. Slit the holes for hand openings.
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Re: Diy glove box [Re: Dare2d]
#23481344 - 07/27/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by TheChief (07/27/16 06:33 AM)
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Re: Diy glove box [Re: Dare2d]
#23481374 - 07/27/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dare2d said: This is how I made mine.
No cutting no drilling. Plastic box (like the one used for SGFC), remove the lid and use cling film to cover the top. Use tape on the cling film to contain the holes. Slit the holes for hand openings.

So... How do you manage getting big stuff like jars in and out of this thing?
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Edited by TheChief (07/27/16 06:41 AM)
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Re: Diy glove box [Re: TheChief]
#23481529 - 07/27/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is now a SAB thread.
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Re: Diy glove box [Re: Inocuole]
#23481539 - 07/27/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Psilocybe virgnsis
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Im sure SAB are effective as im seeing these cookie cutter designs, if my design doesnt work as planned then ill spend the money but I wont unnecessarly, btw I cant fathom my design allowing more contams, I only have to open a window vs sanitizing the SAB and locking it back over the lid, my design also does not create positive pressure due to the semi-permiable material of the sleeves and the slits in between the center window
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It's because of the bellows effect. Think of pistons pushing through a narrow space, and the air displacement that takes place. A narrower space for movement creates more airflow inside your box. Or, if plumbing is your thing, think of different sized pipes moving the same volume of water; a large pipe will have the water trickling through, whereas a narrow pipe could have the same volume of water spewing out at a high rate of speed.
If you have gloves attached, microscopic tears will start to form, where the air will get displaced through. This is why we recommend the cookie cutter design you see. It works as well and as reliably as a flow hood.
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Psilocybe virgnsis
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No the sleeves are pulled out to get my hands through, I would agree with you if my sleeves were plastic and air tight but that not the case there is no compression being formed
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This is a picture of my 110 qt clear still air box:
 Notice it's wet/condensated inside. That's what it's supposed to look like the whole time you're working with it.
I took the cut outs of the holes and taped them to make little doors. This is to keep the air still if I'm waiting for things to cool, or if I want a smoke break.
My SAB holes are 6 inches. Honestly this is the MINIMUM diameter. I took incense and lit it in my box (kudos to kizzle for the idea) and found the arm holes moved the most air (smoke) when moving my arms around, and in and out. By increasing the size of the arm holes, and working in a fairly still room with the vents turned off .. I've been finding that moving your arms in and out will cause no air movement. And thus very rare contams
Also you flame outside the box, keeping the air inside the box still.
If you want to test how much air you stir, instead of guessing. This is how the whole big arm holes, and clunky glove box sleeves moving too much air thing was figured out. Incense ftw.
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Thank you, Dooley noted, just got done using mine but I will use that test soon to see where calibration is needed and if it's too much fuss ill just rip the tape and sell the toy tote
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just throw that thing away and build a proper SAB, stop thinking on your own as it clearly isnt doing you any good and start reading good TEKs.
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just throw that thing away and build a proper SAB, stop thinking on your own as it clearly isnt doing you any good and start reading good TEKs.
Clearly you've never been paid to think, im being chastised for working around the the things I have, and then you wanna face palm cause you feel im an idiot for doing so, I could very well put a plastic pane with holes in it and call it an SAB jack ass whose next
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jcbowling1985 said: "Additionally I did one Armageddon jar with all of the types together."
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Re: Diy glove box [Re: TheChief]
#23484272 - 07/28/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol, I appreciate those with positive input, sourcing a tote for an SAB is next to nothing compared to having to start up front with a pc, jars and making your syringes etc etc. Its when those who want to belittle others at the expense of inexperience I feel compelled to return the dose.
Edited by Psilocybe virgnsis (07/28/16 12:29 AM)
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What will save you from the fact that it almost forces you to put your hands above your work?
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spacechildo
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Psilocybe virgnsis said: Lol, I appreciate those with positive input, sourcing a tote for an SAB is next to nothing compared to having to start up front with a pc, jars and making your syringes etc etc. Its when those who want to belittle others at the expense of inexperience I feel compelled to return the dose.
no, its when you get 5-6 different regulars here telling you to do 1 simple thing yet you say "naaaah, I dont understand it so I dont think its important" the facepalms come
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Psilocybe virgnsis said: Lol, I appreciate those with positive input, sourcing a tote for an SAB is next to nothing compared to having to start up front with a pc, jars and making your syringes etc etc. Its when those who want to belittle others at the expense of inexperience I feel compelled to return the dose.
no, its when you get 5-6 different regulars here telling you to do 1 simple thing yet you say "naaaah, I dont understand it so I dont think its important" the facepalms come 
To save face, I could actually remove the sleeves and itll be a SAB, again different regulars have been helpful others have not. Ill take advice just tell me whats wrong with my setup or how to refine what I have going on rather to assume im hacking my kids toy box as if im a bad parent or to say its a ridiculous idea. In levity of it all I was unfamiliar with SAB until this thread.
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everyone here has given you great advice, saying otherwise makes you look like an ass. buy the biggest tote you can find and drill 2 large arm holes. think its been said before
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Psilocybe virgnsis
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Btw my jars are in there now at a constant 80.5f, next is my fruiting chamber itll be to spec.
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Here is a good write up on a still air box with some tips on how to use it.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20048771#20048771
I made a glove box before I knew all the cons, the gloves are such a pain to work with anyway. SAB much easier imo.
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