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Kush_Zombie
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Can I use stalled subs for outside grow?
#23478720 - 07/26/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have some tubs that are too dry and aren't really doing anything. I have clean jars of spawn I can use but I'm wondering if I can crumble these dry substrates that are partially colonized and use them as part of my mix with my dry horse poo when I layer it with the clean spawn and hay?
The dry substrate mix is coir/verm
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CosmoKramer
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Re: Can I use stalled subs for outside grow? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23478910 - 07/26/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If it's really stalled or dead then it won't survive outdoors. Makes good compost though and you might get a surprise.
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Kush_Zombie
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Re: Can I use stalled subs for outside grow? [Re: CosmoKramer]
#23478918 - 07/26/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you again sir
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Re: Can I use stalled subs for outside grow? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23479118 - 07/26/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You sure can. Try and get below the clay layer if you've got one. Mix poo up in the soil very well and some straw for water retention (on top or inside). You could make a 6x4 hole and keep dumping them inside and feeding it. Make sure to mix in natural soils. Plant low-lying brush around it. Water if necessary. Leftover nutrients and a high volume of fungal sugars (caused by decay of fruit bodies or remnants) very much help the patch. Cover in straw and water if you're in TX/Aus/NZ heat. You can throw spent subs or contaminated subs out there all the same.
Click the link in my signature and make a thread and we will get your outdoor project up and goin. Heck, some people throw their spent subs in a pile in the backyard and get fruits. Put a little work into it and you'll get a lot.
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Kush_Zombie
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Re: Can I use stalled subs for outside grow? [Re: Adden]
#23479140 - 07/26/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome man, thanks for that.
-------------------- How to get started in bulk: Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs) What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain) Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary) Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful) Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.
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Re: Can I use stalled subs for outside grow? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
#23479260 - 07/26/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Peat helps a lot if you've got some laying around. Helps for moisture retention and such. Especially if you use it in bulk grows. It's not cheap nor environmentally sustainable. But yeah after plotting out where you're going to dig - you can prep just by starting a compost pile - get a bunch of poo and shredded straw and till it in. You can throw your first few spent subs in for the initial tilling, but don't keep at it every time you throw a tub in there. Saw one guy rig up what looked like a massive egg beater to break up tubs. After that just keep crumbling them or bury a plot close to the surface. That inner mycelial structure will help get the backbone of the organism started. Additional spent/contam subs can just be crumbled on top and mixed in.
Hope this helps and please start an outdoor cube log for us here if you dive in. Much better than sending them to the dump. If you keep adding it over time you'll have a constantly flushing bed if you're in FL/GA. Make sure there's lots of poo, it's what everything will feed on initially.
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