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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH]
#23520617 - 08/07/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: What's your goal though? That rep range is what you would use for hypertrophy.

Which is exactly what Daniel wanted which is why my reply said
"Working out for asthetics is out of my ball park but if that's what you are looking for, 7-12 should be your rep range"
So you have just confirmed my original advice.
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Masked]
#23520639 - 08/07/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good info in here, aye.
I just started training again after a muscle tear in my hand, couldn't grip a bar for the first 3 months so I took a half a year vacation and got back into my other passion... growing magic mushrooms . I started at 145lbs when I was 17, today I am 215 at 25 so the years of training were worth my time. My brothers don't lift and it's obvious the effects weight training has had on my body. I only strength train though so my goals are based on just squatting heavier and weightlifting these days.
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH]
#23520643 - 08/07/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: What's your goal though? That rep range is what you would use for hypertrophy.

Nice chart 
My goals are a little bit of everything, with an emphasis on hypertrophy.
Sometimes I'll throw in a 3-rep set, but usually its 6-12. Never anything more than 12, closest would be statics.
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH]
#23520653 - 08/07/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's definitely good results for power and strength and adding weight. Well done.
Sorry to hear about the grip injury. That would suck
I train and play with all rep ranges.
But I often test my one rep maxes, 3 rep maxes and 5 rep maxes, amongs all my other training
Progressive overload. Constantly trying to add weight or reps, week by week.
I find it extremely fun going for one rep maxes
I'm curious, care to share your one rep maxes for the following lifts...I'm curious how a guy much bigger than me stacks up. I'm 5'7 and only 177lbs and enjoy being humbled gives me goals
Clean and jerk?
Power clean?
Back squat?
Front squat?
Snatch?
Bench?
Deadlift?
overhead barbell press?
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23520658 - 08/07/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lol I was talking to you initially I didn't realize I was conversing with masked and not you. Yea that chart is legit, same with prilepin's chart.
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH]
#23520660 - 08/07/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Good info in here, aye.
I just started training again after a muscle tear in my hand, couldn't grip a bar for the first 3 months so I took a half a year vacation and got back into my other passion... growing magic mushrooms . I started at 145lbs when I was 17, today I am 215 at 25 so the years of training were worth my time. My brothers don't lift and it's obvious the effects weight training has had on my body. I only strength train though so my goals are based on just squatting heavier and weightlifting these days.
That's a lot of weight, about how tall are you? At 5'6, I couldn't naturally reach 215'lbs at 15% or less bodyfat.
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Masked]
#23520683 - 08/07/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Masked said: I'm 5'7 and only 177lbs and enjoy being humbled gives me goals
177'lbs sounds like a good range, at that point I would be more concerned with physique than gaining.
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Clean and jerk?
Power clean?
Back squat?
Front squat?
Snatch?
Bench?
Deadlift?
overhead barbell press?
This is something else I wanted to bring up, normally I cross-train between calithenics/weights/machines.
This time around, I'm experimenting with replacing weights and machines, with loaded calisthenics. Its something I've wanted to try for awhile, to see what kind of results I could achieve.
My rucksack can carry up to 70'lbs, which is a lot more than I need for pullups  For legs, its another story, obviously 70'lbs is not a lot of weight.
Anyone ever try this?
Also curious about your thoughts on pacing, negatives vs positives, statics.
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH] 1
#23520692 - 08/07/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Clean and jerk 220lbs
Back squat 390lbs
deadlift 420 lbs
Bench 225
330lb front squat
OHP 190lbs
Like I said my goal is based off of pretty much just the squat because my shoulders are bad so I can't bench or jerk too much. Although overhead pressing I believe has done nothing but benefit my shoulders. Weightlifting wise... I am not made to be a weightlifter lol.
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23520701 - 08/07/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Constantly gaining man. I have multiple PR's a month and don't plan on stopping. I train in all 10 quantifiable domains of fitness I talked about in my earlier post...I train for performance. The physique comes naturally and slowly and is just a bonus.
And with PR's this regularly I will naturally keep gaining weight slowly I'm sure. I'm okay with that. But with all the type of training I do and trying to be proficient in all 10 domains of fitness, I'll never become a jacked monster. I can see me levelling out around 185
But my goals are more performance based
Getting that next PR. Getting that faster sprint time. Learning a new skill
And how it all applies to my regular and work life. It's an amazing journey
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH]
#23520706 - 08/07/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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At 215, You were made to be more a weight lifter than I 
Mine
Clean and jerk: 215 Back squat : 275 Front squat : 265 Deadlift : 395 OH press: 190 Overhead squat : 190 Bench : 220
I haven't went for one rep maxes on deadlift or overhead press in ages tho. I'm due
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Masked]
#23520711 - 08/07/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea I'm just here for strength talk
What is your guys front squat at? That's something I could retest soon.
You guys have a good belt?
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Masked]
#23520714 - 08/07/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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But my goals are more performance based
I'm essentially the same way, but hypertrophy is important until getting to a decent weight, and physique only needs a little consideration.
Performance, fitness, health, the sport itself, and how these translate into other activities.
Certain balance exercises like Pendulums are just great for everything, hiking, mtn biking, martial arts, working on a ladder.
It is amazing what one can do with their body.
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH]
#23520715 - 08/07/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: Yea I'm just here for strength talk
What is your guys front squat at? That's something I could retest soon.
You guys have a good belt?
I posted my numbers in the reply before 
I don't believe in a belt. I'm the only guy in our gym who doesn't use one
I have my reasons. I'm sure I could lift a bit more just by putting one on but I'll pass. When I start nearing 315 for a squat and 500 for a deadlift, I'll consider it
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH]
#23520728 - 08/07/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said:
What is your guys front squat at? That's something I could retest soon.
You guys have a good belt?
Just getting started again, so my squat weight is nil  Pre-injury I was at 280, 12 reps per set + statics
The rucksack has a belt
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23520739 - 08/07/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is your guys front squat at? That's something I could retest soon.
You guys have a good belt?
Just getting started again, so my squat weight is nil  Pre-injury I was at 280, 12 reps per set + statics
The rucksack has a belt 
Is that your front squat weight?
What is your back squat?
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Masked]
#23520745 - 08/07/16 11:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never distinguished between the two, this is news to me
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23520749 - 08/07/16 11:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said: I've never distinguished between the two, this is news to me
Most on these boards don't train front so that's why I got you to clarify
You must man! Barbell in the front rack position. Tons of good YouTube videos will show you proper form. Front rack takes some practice, especially if you have shitty mobility. Elbows out, chest up
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Repertoire89]
#23520752 - 08/07/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dunno what pendulums are but I think balance training is bs. I've met a whole lot of people that have "good balance" but cant squat bodyweight but I've never met someone that can squat a heavy and have bad balance. Your time is definitely better spent just doing barbell lifts.
Recommend this read, worth the time:
http://startingstrength.com/article/balance_training#.Vtc0B_krJaQ
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: Masked]
#23520756 - 08/07/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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On the back for sure then
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Re: Fitness errors (stress, calories, form, intensity) [Re: PreparationH]
#23520770 - 08/07/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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PreparationH said: I dunno what pendulums are but I think balance training is bs. I've met a whole lot of people that have "good balance" but cant squat bodyweight but I've never met someone that can squat a heavy and have bad balance. Your time is definitely better spent just doing barbell lifts.
Recommend this read, worth the time:
http://startingstrength.com/article/balance_training#.Vtc0B_krJaQ
That is a load of shit but you are entitled to your opinion
You train 2 out of 10 domains of fitness, from what I can tell. Strength and power.
Hardly develops a well rounded athlete The best athletes in the world are proficient in the 10 key areas of fitness I stated earlier. And balance is one of them
You are welcome to your opinion of course, as am I, so cheers to different training methodologies
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