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Toilet seat up or down?
    #23478435 - 07/26/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I recently had a discussion with my friends girlfriend about this topic and it ended with her using emotional arguments about how bad of a human being I am.

I hope we're better people than that and can come to some kind of conclusion here. I'd like you to give good arguments for your case and use logic to the best of your ability. Also, try to avoid using analogies since they tend to be flawed most of the time.

Be sure to mention if you live with women and if there is anything specific that has shaped your view.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste]
    #23478440 - 07/26/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Toilet seat itself always down, toilet seat cover always up


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Ezuma] * 1
    #23478453 - 07/26/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you leave the seat up, your toilet will inevitably splash piss and shit every time you flush. Both parts down, always.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste]
    #23478464 - 07/26/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you live with females then out of respect put it down if you lift it up, not that you really have to but it's basically an unwritten rule so follow it if you want, if not who cares it's a toilet seat, if you forget to or just don't then whoever finds it that way regardless of gender should stop being a baby and take a second to put it down and move on with their day unless their life was that god damn amazing that they need to find something like a toilet seat being left up to be mad about because they don't have any real problems.

Your friends girlfriend sounds petty as fuck and had way too good of a life if she thinks leaving a toilet seat up makes you that bad of a human being, she clearly hasn't been exposed to much of the world.

But me personally, I always put it down if a woman is around, but I was just raised that way. I clean my toilets regularly and I'm basically the only one who uses it so most of the time it's left up  :whatyougonnado:


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23478468 - 07/26/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I forget to put the seat down and my girl has never said anything?

I try to put it down because if she ever stumbled in their late at night id feel awful if she fell in :lol:


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Herbologist] * 1
    #23478480 - 07/26/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23478483 - 07/26/16 11:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Pretty much exactly that.  She could die!


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste] * 1
    #23478495 - 07/26/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Down, unless you're in the process of cleaning the thing...

Honestly have no idea why people put it up outside of trying to be gross, its not hard to aim at all unless you have an extra hole in your dick or micropenis syndrome, looks sloppy having it up, and necessitates unnecessarily touching ass covered porcelain.

Not really a big deal, but definitely down.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #23478513 - 07/26/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Its only fair that if we have to put it up then they can lower the seat. I know people who have sat in toilets because the seat was up but who diddnt look at the toilet before sitting on it. Who doesnt look at where they are about to sit? hahaha I totally understand your point, my aim is good but i guess it was how i was brought up to always raise it. Tho most of the time I put the steat asnd lid down anyways due to preventing things from falling in the toilet My cat likes to knock shit off of shelves in my bathroom.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: SonicTitan] * 6
    #23478520 - 07/26/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Girls who don't notice the seat is up and sit down n slip in or w/e are fucking retarded or literally blind. One of the two


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23478521 - 07/26/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah its your fault if you sit without looking :lol:
Kind of hard thing not to notice


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23478523 - 07/26/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

that being said i lift it up with toilet paper to pee nd put it down after


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23478525 - 07/26/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah its your fault if you sit without looking :lol:
Kind of hard thing not to notice



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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23478526 - 07/26/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Down, unless you're in the process of cleaning the thing...

Honestly have no idea why people put it up outside of trying to be gross, its not hard to aim at all unless you have an extra hole in your dick or micropenis syndrome, looks sloppy having it up, and necessitates unnecessarily touching ass covered porcelain.

Not really a big deal, but definitely down.




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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23478536 - 07/26/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yeah its your fault if you sit without looking :lol:
Kind of hard thing not to notice



qft



Hahaha exactly. Had an ex that frreeeeeeaaaked at me for leaving it up and she fell in. Needless to say i just laughed my ass off and was confused as to why she diddnt notice. Tho she is a big drunk so i guess it makes sense.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Repertoire89]
    #23478555 - 07/26/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If you live with females then out of respect put it down




This was one of her arguments. I somehow don't see how putting the seat down is a sign of respect. I was raised by women and not once was I taught this. Also, women don't (as far as my experience tells me) get upset about me not holding the door open. The "seat down" thing seems to really matter to them, though I doubt you get a "thank you" for it as opposed to holding the door open. That just seems weird to me, I'd like a lady to elaborate here.

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I try to put it down because if she ever stumbled in their late at night id feel awful if she fell in :lol:




That falling in thing just screws with my mind :smile2:
If you going to the toilet requires that you sit down you just check for the seat being down, I can't remember a time I sat down on porcelain. And the falling in bit just seems even more ridiculous. :shrug: A female opinion still pending on this.

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Honestly have no idea why people put it up outside of trying to be gross, its not hard to aim at all unless you have an extra hole in your dick or micropenis syndrome, looks sloppy having it up, and necessitates unnecessarily touching ass covered porcelain.





I wouldn't agree, but this here is more opinion and personal experience based. Can't really oppose that.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste]
    #23478574 - 07/26/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

just dont pee on the seat lol
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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste]
    #23478597 - 07/26/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This was one of her arguments. I somehow don't see how putting the seat down is a sign of respect.




Neither do I but I always just guessed it was because since you now they're always going to have to sit down it's considered respectful to make sure it's down in case they go in after you, but who knows, my mom always just told me it was respectful growing up without explanation lol. honestly it really is one of the stupidest things imaginable to get upset about IMO and truly does show your life must be amazing otherwise if a toilet seat is what causes them anger, but I still put it down just so I'll never have to deal with it :lol:


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23478608 - 07/26/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My roommate is a girl so not really an issue right now. It does suck if a guest forgets to put the lid down right now particularly though, because I'm never expecting it to be up so it always gets me :sad:.

I've lived with all dudes before, and in a mixed gender situation - shared a bathroom with two dudes in the former and a dude and a lady in the latter. I just started putting the seat and the lid down as it's 'default' position because it seemed to be the most diplomatic thing, and I noticed that everyone started doing the same thing - didn't even have to say anything :lol:

I've never really got into arguments over stuff like this - sometimes someone leaves the seat up and you fall into the toilet in the middle of the night, but that's life - as long as someone I'm living with isn't super gross or crazy I'm happy.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23478881 - 07/26/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've never really got into arguments over stuff like this - sometimes someone leaves the seat up and you fall into the toilet in the middle of the night, but that's life - as long as someone I'm living with isn't super gross or crazy I'm happy.




I do admire your chill approach, but could you please elaborate on how do women manage to fall in? Do you guys have a very narrow base of support when sitting down or what?


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23478925 - 07/26/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Install an auto lift on that thing. Press a button it goes up right quick, press it again it goes back down. Bada bing bada boom


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: ManianFH]
    #23479070 - 07/26/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Install an auto lift on that thing. Press a button it goes up right quick, press it again it goes back down. Bada bing bada boom




I myself think that this argument could easily be settled by installing a urinal in the home. :shrug:


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste] * 1
    #23479112 - 07/26/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Didn't read, but always up!

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My girl bitches like fuck about it :lol:


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste] * 1
    #23479128 - 07/26/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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If you live with females then out of respect put it down




This was one of her arguments. I somehow don't see how putting the seat down is a sign of respect. I was raised by women and not once was I taught this. Also, women don't (as far as my experience tells me) get upset about me not holding the door open. The "seat down" thing seems to really matter to them, though I doubt you get a "thank you" for it as opposed to holding the door open.




Yeah I don't think this really holds water, it makes no more sense than me expecting others to leave the seat up for me out of "respect".

At my own house I just leave it however I used it. This means that I have to change the seat position at most once per visit, and don't have to move it at all if I was the last one to use it. The "seat always down" system means that I will always have to move the seat before and after every visit, so that seat-users will never have to move the seat at all. Fuck that, if they want it down they can put it down, just as I have to put it up when they leave it down.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #23479268 - 07/26/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Girls who don't notice the seat is up and sit down n slip in or w/e are fucking retarded or literally blind. One of the two




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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: ManianFH]
    #23479396 - 07/26/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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kaste said:
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pirate-blues said:
I've never really got into arguments over stuff like this - sometimes someone leaves the seat up and you fall into the toilet in the middle of the night, but that's life - as long as someone I'm living with isn't super gross or crazy I'm happy.




I do admire your chill approach, but could you please elaborate on how do women manage to fall in? Do you guys have a very narrow base of support when sitting down or what?






lol I dunno what to elaborate on, have you ever tried to sit on a toilet with the lid up? I guess if you sort of perched you could avoid falling in, but I think you'd have to have a pretty large badonk to not fall in.


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Install an auto lift on that thing. Press a button it goes up right quick, press it again it goes back down. Bada bing bada boom







eh it's not the effort of putting the lid down, it's that I think most of us just kinda automatically expect the lid to be down(and if you factor in both genders using the toilet then 75% of all toilet related acts involve the lid being down) and it's not like we look at the toilet to aim our nonexistent wangs anywhere, so we just go into autopilot and fall into the toilet.
It would still happen with a button.

I still maintain the most diplomatic and polite bathroom etiquette is everyone putting the seat and the lid down after usage. If you're a guest in the home of a girl or girls then I think it's polite to put the seat down because seriously, we're just not expecting it to be up, we have a totally different relationship with the toilet than you guys, if you come into my house and leave the toilet seat up then you've sealed my fate.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste]
    #23479399 - 07/26/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just shit in my hand so I can throw it at people, fuck your toilets goddamn conformists.

I'm taking this shit back, way back, back into time, like going 10'000 BC on some mother fuckers, flinging poo like it's the thing to do.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: pirate-blues] * 3
    #23479412 - 07/26/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do women sometimes accidently sit on a closed toilet with the seat and lid down?

This baffles me too how women can do that.  I would never sit anywhere without looking first.  What if there was a rattlesnake in the toilet?  You'd be dead.

Also people who say they don't pee on the seat, don't tiny drops come out of the toilet cause by your pee splashing in the water?  How do you avoid this?


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? *DELETED* [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23479416 - 07/26/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Lucis]
    #23479420 - 07/26/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I dont urinate or shit since I utilize every single piece of matter and nutrients in my system. Maximum efficiency :laugh:


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: uhyeah] * 1
    #23479428 - 07/26/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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SEAT DOWN, COVER DOWN EVERYTIME!

Airborne poop particles fly into the air everytime one flushes a toilet. These particles will float around for the next 8ish hours falling on everything in the surrounding area. So unless you like brushing your teeth with a shitty-tooth brush or combing poo particles into your hair everyday.... close it. I'm a female and its not a respect thing its not a male vs. female thing it a hygiene thing. Its all fun and games till someone gets some type of e coli.

http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4317/are-there-airborne-poop-particles-flying-around-bathrooms




You really think a loose flimsy plastic seat will do anything to prevent this?  Poop particles enter the air when people fart too.  There's really no avoiding it. :sadyes:


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23479436 - 07/26/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm learning a lot from this thread

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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23479439 - 07/26/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I dont urinate or shit since I utilize every single piece of matter and nutrients in my system. Maximum efficiency :laugh:





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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23479443 - 07/26/16 05:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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uhyeah said:
SEAT DOWN, COVER DOWN EVERYTIME!

Airborne poop particles fly into the air everytime one flushes a toilet. These particles will float around for the next 8ish hours falling on everything in the surrounding area. So unless you like brushing your teeth with a shitty-tooth brush or combing poo particles into your hair everyday.... close it. I'm a female and its not a respect thing its not a male vs. female thing it a hygiene thing. Its all fun and games till someone gets some type of e coli.

http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4317/are-there-airborne-poop-particles-flying-around-bathrooms




You really think a loose flimsy plastic seat will do anything to prevent this?  Poop particles enter the air when people fart too.  There's really no avoiding it. :sadyes:





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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: uhyeah]
    #23479445 - 07/26/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

"I think we need to be focusing on the most important part of the body...the face" haha


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: SonicTitan]
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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23479489 - 07/26/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Do women sometimes accidently sit on a closed toilet with the seat and lid down?

This baffles me too how women can do that.  I would never sit anywhere without looking first.  What if there was a rattlesnake in the toilet?  You'd be dead.

Also people who say they don't pee on the seat, don't tiny drops come out of the toilet cause by your pee splashing in the water?  How do you avoid this?






Haha yeah I've done that too actually, though I guess it's a bit easier to spot that than the lid being up.

we have woodland rattlers here but they don't like water like some of their southern cousins. If I was somewhere where toilet snake was a reality I would be a lot more careful probably.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste] * 2
    #23479497 - 07/26/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

seat: down
cover: down

so... i guess i'm a 'down down' type of girl.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #23479502 - 07/26/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's like resetting the toilet.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: pirate-blues]
    #23479514 - 07/26/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I pee sitting down, so this isn't an issue for me.

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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #23479638 - 07/26/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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seat: down
cover: down

so... i guess i'm a 'down down' type of girl.



same, I usually put both down

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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: kaste]
    #23479683 - 07/26/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Down. Both should be down. Leaving both up is :girlofdisapproval:


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: nooneman]
    #23479725 - 07/26/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

to me it's about two things.  consideration and contact.  if anyone male or female needs to make contact with it, sitting for example, then the polite thing to do is to have it down at all times.  that way they're not required to make more contact with it than is already necessary, touching it with their hands for example.  so it's not even about the gender issue, it's about anyone that needs to sit in general.  if someone needs to take a piss and prefers to do it standing up, they're not making contact with it anyway.  so it's not a big deal that they be required to lift the seat up with their hands.  the point is that they won't have to sit on the thing anyway.  just my two cents.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #23479936 - 07/26/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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seat: down
cover: down

so... i guess i'm a 'down down' type of girl.



same, I usually put both down

Down Down Girls FTW :lol:




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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: uhyeah]
    #23480264 - 07/26/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

if this is even a answerable question, fuck it.  leave the seat up so you can piss and shit on it.  no need to keep it clean.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #23480870 - 07/27/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Also people who say they don't pee on the seat, don't tiny drops come out of the toilet cause by your pee splashing in the water?  How do you avoid this?




:lol: aiming at an angle right above the waters edge usually does it, hard to explain


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: enlightened seed]
    #23482207 - 07/27/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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if this is even a answerable question, fuck it.  leave the seat up so you can piss and shit on it.  no need to keep it clean.





ya maybe ur right....then when the toilet gets too dirty u can just shit in the tub.....maybe the germs will build ur immune system.


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Re: Toilet seat up or down? [Re: uhyeah]
    #23483727 - 07/27/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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if this is even a answerable question, fuck it.  leave the seat up so you can piss and shit on it.  no need to keep it clean.





ya maybe ur right....then when the toilet gets too dirty u can just shit in the tub.....maybe the germs will build ur immune system.




if it were to make you sick(or whom ever) i am sure there are some antibiotics that would fix ya up.


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