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Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed?
    #23478002 - 07/26/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hey everyone. Grown mushrooms a few times now. Often just trade them for weed. I was thinking, and growing a little weed would be less illegal than mushrooms. I'm wondering if many of you grow weed and how easy is it to start out?

I'm not opposed to buying a used grow light. Don't really like MH due to the heat probably led or cfl


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23478083 - 07/26/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cannabis is a lot easier in regards to sterilization...I mean you can't contaminate a cannabis plant unless you bring home spider mites or something.

The thing about cannabis growing vs mushrooms is
1. Growing weed costs way more money.
2. Growing weed takes way more time.
3. Growing weed is harder to hide than a mushroom grow.

If you wanna do it though I say get a decent LED panel and some fox farms soil and fert and give it a whirl.

Or do some.more research and make your own soil with organic materials like worm castings and such.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? [Re: impaired420]
    #23478134 - 07/26/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The three issues you pointed out are in fact the three biggest issues.

I tried a plant with a few good CFLS a few months ago. All was fine until I turned them to flowering stage. The house started to reek of fresh weed almost immediately. So that's a big issue...

Man. I hate paying for weed. 20 bucks for two or 3 bowl packs... That's insane. I'd much rather do it myself. Prolly should have thought of that before I started a family though.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23478176 - 07/26/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm with you buddy. I've done a few grows and the smell was pretty bad but a few carbon filters fixed it up pretty nicely but I was still sketched out constantly.

You could always start an outdoor crop, probably too late now depending on where you lvie but that gives you some time to start planning and preparing.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? [Re: impaired420]
    #23478199 - 07/26/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm with you buddy. I've done a few grows and the smell was pretty bad but a few carbon filters fixed it up pretty nicely but I was still sketched out constantly.

You could always start an outdoor crop, probably too late now depending on where you lvie but that gives you some time to start planning and preparing.





Any advice on a high yield, low smell strain? Would you recommend getting a seed bank seed? Don't wanna have police busting my door down before I ever get started.

Come to think of it, I don't even have any bag seeds anymore.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23478228 - 07/26/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Fell in love with both lucky enough to have it as my main source of income now.  :smile:


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23478267 - 07/26/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Bag seeds would be best as you can learn without fear of wasting money.
As far as seed banks I never got that far into it since my gf wasn't comfortable with it anymore.
If you can get some feminized seeds that would be great so you don't have to worry about weeding out males.

As far as strains I couldn't tell ya.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23478624 - 07/26/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This thread was moved from Other Drugs Discussion.

Reason:
Threads like this belong in The Ethnobotanical Garden. General cannabis threads belong in The Psychedelic Experience forum.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: DustBunny]
    #23481139 - 07/27/16 02:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cannabis is way less stealth, if you've got a tent and a carbon filter they're still very stealth though. With Mushrooms for like 80% of the time you can just leave them under your bed or whatever and let them colonize with 0 effort after inoculation, Cannabis requires a lot more maintenance and attention. Easier in regards to having everything sterile thought because pests / mold are the only thing that can screw you over, both of which are fairly easy to avoid and get rid of.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Muhfreedoms]
    #23484099 - 07/27/16 10:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

As people have already mentioned, mushrooms are more stealthy and cheap, weed is more expensive and easy, but higher profile.

Commercially, I think you could totally make more off shrooms. But it's kind of a lot of work to keep a commercial shroom op sanitary. Weeds dont give a fuck as long as you give them light and nutes. But my startup costs to have a stealth 3x3 weed grow was like $1200. Worth it tho because the right equipment makes growing really easy. There's a whole industry behind indoor growing now. Home mycology, not so much.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Icon]
    #23484470 - 07/28/16 03:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Growing mushrooms is not cheap, but it can be. Conventional methods can be used to grow them, grow kits can be bought through the internet making the whole "growing mushroom" process much shorter.
To do the "job" right, you need equipment for both Cannabis and mushrooms and of course the knowledge which you 'll gain via experimentation (and lots of reading).
Good thing about Cannabis is that you can find much easier accurate growing techniques and if you pay attention on what experienced growers say and write, you can have a very decent crop even if it is your first one.
Growing mushrooms though reacquires specification and as far as I know, research is not really helping.
Thing I find hard about Cannabis is dealing with the smell, even if you use filter (which in my opinion is absolutely necessary) you'll need to water and feed the plant also at some point you have to cut the buds and clean off the leaves and the smell is always strong (unless you go sealed so odors are essentially less).
Mushrooms on the other hand require lesser space an it's easier (cheaper) to set up an environment. Keeping things sterile is a headache but again, with the right equipment things can get really easy.
My opinion is that both are not as easy as one might think it is.
Many people think that just throwing a seed will give a crop but care is essential for Cannabis (indoors and outdoors). Mushrooms are hard only until they cultivate after that is just spraying water.
Since you're willing to risk growing an illegal plant make it worth.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: BarbaraBlue]
    #23484520 - 07/28/16 04:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I live in the Netherlands, once there were a few cannabis plants grown upstairs and ventilated through a vent in the ceiling leading through the roof...
Only unfortunately it was not exactly hermetic, and some dank stank went through the ceiling 'crawlspace' to the neighbours who had an infant sleeping there in his room, lol. So at some point the guy complained and was apparently pretty cool about it but that was the last time that was done hehe. Only some mushrooms after that.

Good lighting is important, and ventilation / carbon filtering depending on where you live near other people.. most stuff is pretty straightforward although of course things like soil or nutrition can be done very well instead of mediocre, and some things like pests or milldew etc can ruin the whole thing which can be a real challenge and bummer.

Other than that, they almost grow like weeds man


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: BarbaraBlue]
    #23484533 - 07/28/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In addition to what already has been said, I may add:

It's more likely to get busted growing weed than growing mushrooms. Not only because of the smell, but also because of the heat signature of your lamps and the huge amount of electricity you'll suddenly need.
I did a grow once with one 600W lamp... thats 300$ electricity where I live.
Had a good harvest though.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23484549 - 07/28/16 04:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Right, that kind of thing is also often how illegal grows are caught that illegally tap electricity..

However 600W shouldn't be too much, a computer can also be 250W, if anything it would be the sudden jump and regular hours of a lamp.. Pretty fucked up if using 600W would warrant interest from law enforcement..

Heat signature that's interesting, are there airborne drones that detect that radiation, and can it be shielded above like lead for X-rays?

I don't grow cannabis but the plants that I do grow I grow with LED.. so might be worth considering other options than - what is it - HPS? But might be more expensive for the same light yield..

Gotta say I love those 'tents'... wish I had the money for a setup like that.. a few plants is normally condoned here in the Netherlands but I think that I would still get kicked out of my apartment by the owner.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Solipsis]
    #23484675 - 07/28/16 06:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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However 600W shouldn't be too much, a computer can also be 250W, if anything it would be the sudden jump and regular hours of a lamp.. Pretty fucked up if using 600W would warrant interest from law enforcement..

Heat signature that's interesting, are there airborne drones that detect that radiation, and can it be shielded above like lead for X-rays?






Basically any well equipped police helicopter has an infrared camera on board. It's standard procedure to find large illegal grows.
They probably won't go after a single 600W lamp (which generates a lot of heat that, by the way, you have to vent from grow tents), especially in The Netherlands, but they could.
But say, a rooftop, with 6 typically arranged heat sources... What else could it be??


E.g.:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2461412/Police-helicopter-s-thermal-imaging-camera-detected-home-cannabis-factory-heat-coming-lamps-grow-drugs-look-like-flat-GLOWING.html


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23484751 - 07/28/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also, they sometimes raid due to poor insulation, even when the home owner is one of their fellow officers :rofl:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2474184/Poor-insulation-led-to-drugs-raid-on-police-officers-home.html


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Mostly_Harmless]
    #23484922 - 07/28/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So I'm out of weed with no connects.

Man. I just wanna smoke a little weed ya know shit.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23485308 - 07/28/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: Moabfighter]
    #23485716 - 07/28/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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So I'm out of weed with no connects.

Man. I just wanna smoke a little weed ya know shit.




Are you picking weed out of the carpet yet?  That is when you know you should be worried.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: mandrin13]
    #23485783 - 07/28/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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So I'm out of weed with no connects.

Man. I just wanna smoke a little weed ya know shit.




Are you picking weed out of the carpet yet?  That is when you know you should be worried.




Out of the carpet :ilold:

Trues story. In 98 when i was in college a buddy wanted to smoke and i only had a small roach. Well i was a big pothead back then so i said "lets look on the floor of my car"

Lo and behold we found a couple of buds, saved the roach and were able to smoke a good sized joint. Thoae were the days.


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Re: Growing mushrooms isn't too bad...how's weed? (moved) [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23487389 - 07/28/16 09:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I watched a guy try to dab a piece of fried chicken on my table that he thought was shatter lmfao.


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