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25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK
    #23477104 - 07/25/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

took nbome 20 times over 5 month span shrooms 5 times and molly three times as well. Been feeling like shit since the begginging of 2015.. Still smoke pot... Basically anx heavy headed overall no motivation no confidence extreme thinking.. Tips?


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 7
    #23477134 - 07/25/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Stop smoking.

You might think its the only thing keeping you sane, but its not.

Stop smoking.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF]
    #23477142 - 07/25/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For how long you think


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 2
    #23477149 - 07/25/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I felt the same way you do, stopped smoking and felt better about 3-5 months later. Felt great for 2 years. Started smoking again recently and the same mindset is coming back

I dont think it ever goes away

Good news is everything else, psychs, alcohol, etc. is still great. For some reason its just weed that does this for me


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF]
    #23477151 - 07/25/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's horrible to hear considering my love for weed.. I've heard of others being able to cope though so hopefully I can. I love Mary Jane.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23477163 - 07/25/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Possibly horrible advice but try drinking. I hated drinking, then was able to ween off the weed to alcohol. After that, weed made me sick and alcohol was my go to.

Made me social, want to go out, and succeed at work.

I found alcohol was alot easier to quit than weed and now i dont smoke or drink daily, maybe one or the other once a week


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF]
    #23477175 - 07/25/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like horrible advice but who knows might work. Rather try testing my free will though.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23477201 - 07/25/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea it's best to get back to a clean mind set for at least a little bit.


You'd be surprised how much weed affects you.  When you smoke all day everyday you tend to be in a bit of a haze any way.

Dreams come back and they get intense.


I'd recommend eliminating caffeine too.  It can lower your overall energy levels and increase anxiety.

The biggest thing is it feels like you have more time in the day since you aren't smoking and distracting yourself


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23477216 - 07/25/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the feedback quitting now.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23477221 - 07/25/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea it's best to get back to a clean mind set for at least a little bit.


You'd be surprised how much weed affects you.  When you smoke all day everyday you tend to be in a bit of a haze any way.






No doubt. I have been completely sober and gotten very fit over the past ~6-7 months and I feel like a different person altogether

Dope gets you high and low


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Uzziel]
    #23477227 - 07/25/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Hope sooooooooooo..


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23477231 - 07/25/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

smoke more weed :shrug:


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23477233 - 07/25/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Trooooooooooooooool :?


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23477235 - 07/25/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Or start making edibles instead of smoking :thumbup:


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23477237 - 07/25/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

But nah bro you're dumb


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 1
    #23477242 - 07/25/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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But nah bro you're dumb



No, your just burned off rc's and think its weeds fault. Myself with every other stoner I know smokes weed daily and is happy as can be......so check yourself before you wreck yourself fool.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23477247 - 07/25/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think its weeds fault I believe its contributing to the problem. Clearly im not the one who's fried m8 ahaha


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23477253 - 07/25/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

iLLeXXXX said:
But nah bro you're dumb



No, your just burned off rc's and think its weeds fault. Myself with every other stoner I know smokes weed daily and is happy as can be......so check yourself before you wreck yourself fool.





Sounds like he's burned out in general and smoking pot doesn't help that

Protip: Weed doesn't solve all problems, pothead


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23477255 - 07/25/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Btw pretty sad on ur part.. Came here for help not to get trolled.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23477307 - 07/25/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

JVF is right - weed is probably not too good for you at this point in some sense. It can lower motivation, increase levels of anxiety, and just fuck with you. I used to smoke a LOT. then quit... i don't feel a need to do it at all these days, nor do i want to. It just seems to impede my thought process too much and damper me as a person. It's also helped facilitate the presence of social problems in my inter/rapersonal relationships. Let your mind and body equalize


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23477311 - 07/25/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the feedback.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23478056 - 07/26/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ty for the feedback man


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 2
    #23478077 - 07/26/16 08:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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took nbome 20 times over 5 month span shrooms 5 times and molly three times as well. Been feeling like shit since the begginging of 2015.. Still smoke pot... Basically anx heavy headed overall no motivation no confidence extreme thinking.. Tips?





Sounds like you depleted your brain of neurons

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: plasma]
    #23478152 - 07/26/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I have beem smoking daily for 10+ years and I really never feel any negativity from it :shrug: I understand that everyones body differs to an extent. Weed helps me, it always has. You just need to find your equilibrium op, experiment a little(ex: smoke more/less, switch to edible only, quit) do whatever works but dont hate me just because you cant handle it.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #23478208 - 07/26/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Weed has a lot of neuroprotective benefits and a lot of benefits for people who have suffered brain damage. I'm sure what you are experiencing is the result of the extreme toxicity of nbomes including likely Brain damage from the nbomes. Because cannabis is very beneficial for many kinds of Brain damage, I personally believe that cannabis is more likely to help than to harm, unless you are experiencing psychosis which it could worsen. I am not telling you to use any drug, I am just saying the balance of research strongly supports cannabis use helping , not hurting, brain damage recovery and brain healing.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23478316 - 07/26/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

At least a few people have chimed in reasonably.
And then there's a few people on the SHROOMERY of all places telling someone to not smoke weed? 

:whattefuck2: GTFO.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: abltsandwich] * 2
    #23478361 - 07/26/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I have beem smoking daily for 10  years and I really never feel any negativity from it :shrug: I understand that everyones body differs to an extent. Weed helps me, it always has. You just need to find your equilibrium op, experiment a little(ex: smoke more/less, switch to edible only, quit) do whatever works but dont hate me just because you cant handle it.




No one is hating you..?

Weed can worsen mental problems... This is well known. just because you don't have issues with it doesn't mean others don't as well... Generally, as a rule of thumb when people start having problems after drug use, the #1 bit of advice given is to stop using all drugs like weed alcohol dope etc.

and lol @ moonshoe

Hippocampal Neurotoxicity of THC

A review of the literature suggests that both age during exposure and duration of exposure may be critical determinants of neurotoxicity. Cannabinoid administration for at least three months (8-10% of a rat's lifespan) was required to produce neurotoxic effects in peripubertal rodents, which would be comparable to about three years exposure in rhesus monkeys and seven to ten years in humans. Studies of monkeys after up to 12 months of daily exposure have not consistently reported neurotoxicity, and the results of longer exposures have not yet been studied.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23478410 - 07/26/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

"Findings have shown that cannabis offers therapeutic benefits following brain injuries. Studies have shown that the cannabinoids found in cannabis, most specifically cannabidiol (CBD), activate the body’s cannabinoid receptors (CB1 and CB2), though evidence also suggests that the neuroprotective effects from CBD come from the cannabinoid’s activation of the 5-hydroxytriptamine1A (5-HT1A) receptor (Mishima, et al., 2005). When these receptors are activated, they provide protection against neural damage following acute and chronic brain damage (Lopez-Rodriguez, et al., 2013). For example, in one study, the administration of cannabinoids following a traumatic brain injury decreased brain swelling and inflammation and was shown to improve recovery (Shohami, et al., 2011). Another showed that CBD alone provided neuroprotection and limited brain cell death in newborn mice following a hypoxic-ischemic event (Castillo, et al., 2010). Others have showed that cannabinoids, through the activation of the endocannabinoid system, prevent glutamate excitotoxicity, intracellular calcium accumulation, activation of cell death pathways, microglia activation, neurovascular reactivity and circulating leukocytes following a brain injury. Researchers concluded that modulating the endocannabinoid system is an effective way to provide neuroprotection and prevent and reduce brain injury (Fernandez-Lopez, Lizasoain, Moro & Orgado, 2013).

Addition research has shown that cannabis’ cannabinoids provide brain and neuroprotection caused by disorders. One found that CBD reduces the oxidative stress and Alzheimer’s hallmark protein (β-amyloid), thus limiting nerve damage caused by the disorder and improving cell viability (Harvey, et al., 2012). An animal study showed that CBD and tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) treatments were effective at delaying and limiting neural damage caused by Huntington’s disease (Sagredo, et al., 2011). Another found that CBD, in addition to providing neuroprotective effects and reducing long-term brain injury, also helped restore neurobehavioral function following a hypoxia-ischemia event (Pazos, et al., 2012).

Studies have also shown that cannabis can help post-concussion syndrome patients manage the symptoms associated with the disorder. CBD can lower stress, help combat depression, improve sleep and reduce pain (Abush & Akirav, 2013) (Campos, et al., 2012) (Chagas, et al., 2013) (Russo, Guy & Robson, 2007) (Baron, 2015)."

http://www.medicalmarijuanainc.com/post-concussion-syndrome-medical-marijuana-research-overview/


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Moonshoe] * 2
    #23478446 - 07/26/16 11:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm going to completely ignore the data you presented and post about a condition completely irrelevant to the OP




Yep, typical moonshoe post. Op probably doensn't have alzheimer's or huntingtons or hypoxia-ischemia, you're posting stuff that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the OP.



Also, cannabidol is another story, and the weed you typically buy from dealers and shops isn't really going to be CBD specific grown... if you live in a medi state, yeah sure you can get some from a dispensary, but that's about the extent of that. THC can worsen brain-fog and memory, and is known to be neurotoxic in the long-term due to it's lipophilic properties from the article that i linked above.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23478476 - 07/26/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The information I posted proves that cannabis is neuroprotective through multiple mechanisms against multiple kinds of brain damage Including but not limited to oxygen deprivation, physical trauma, inflammation, toxicity and multiple disease conditions .

It's clear that cannabis provides a broad spectrum of neuroprotective benefits and is a valuable treatment for numerous forms of brain damage.

Whether you hit your head, have a stroke or have any of a variety of neurological diseases or disorders, cannabis can likely help protect and heal your brain through mutiple mechanisms.

As an anti inflammatory and neuroprotective that also stimulates neurogenesis, cannabis is good medicine for the brain and a good treatment for not just one form of brain damage, but many.

You say "post about a condition completely irrelevant to the OP" , but the research I posted isn't about a single condition but several, and not one of them is irrelevant to the OP, given that they all attest to the value of cannabis in healing brain damage from multiple sources and through multiple mechanisms.

Again I am not telling anyone to do any drug. Only they can make that choice.

What I am saying is that the evidence is overwhelming that cannabis is an effective medicine for the treatment of a variety of forms of brain damage from a variety of causes, and is unquestionably neuroprotective through multiple mechanisms.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Moonshoe] * 5
    #23478528 - 07/26/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This is ridiculous.

Have you experienced this first hand? Why are you throwing bullshit articles about nothing out when you have no clue what OP is going through.

Would you give a schizo a joint and tell him to chill if he was having full on hallucinations?

Neuroprotective and psychologically helpful are 2 completely different things


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 2
    #23478534 - 07/26/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)


While I've never tripped that heavily in a year before, I have had to deal with getting way out into some tumultuous waters before and I'm no stranger to acute anxiety.

I've never personally contacted a therapist, but maybe that would help you to figure out how to cope with your anxiety.



But here's a few tips I've learned:

come up with mantras, things to repeat in your mind to help you stay centered.

For me it was "this will pass, I will be Okay, I AM okay". Plus I think about 'god' or 'reality' a lot too and while I know that a lot of people get turned off by the idea of anything 'spiritual', I promise that if you just remember god ( more as the concept of the singular nature of reality than a deity ) you'll come back to equilibrium quickly.

When your thoughts are spinning out of control, lovingly and kindly remind yourself that they are just that: thoughts. Try to focus on your breathing and let go of needing to pop the bag and find the answers, they really aren't as important as you think they are when you're going a mile a minute.

And finally, be gentle with yourself, try not to judge yourself for not being "normal" or a "go-getter". Find things that you love to do and engage yourself with them, just get back into a routine and build yourself back up.
You're starting at ground zero, part of the function of psychedelics is that they can break down our mental structures, which means that we need to put in the work to build ourselves back up with the insights that we've gained.

You have an amazing opportunity here to unfold all of those profound, psychedelic states of mind which you've experienced on trips simply through your focus, love and intention.It's a wild ride but trust me the other side of it makes it so worth it!! :heart:

p.s. probably dry out too, i think smoking daily when you feel all that anxiety is just kind of a no brainer bad idea.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF] * 1
    #23478539 - 07/26/16 12:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I agree,cut off the weed.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Bumbaa]
    #23478611 - 07/26/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just hope I can smoke again withtin 1-2 years and im sure ill be able too... I've heard of people taking way more then i have and being fine. What really gets to me though is thinking about how everything was before all this and how i could smoke and be fine all day. Now its almost a shit show.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF] * 2
    #23478846 - 07/26/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

As I said in my first post in this thread, if he is having mental illness issues like psychosis / schizophrenia , then he shouldn't use cannabis as it will likely worsen those issues.

If on the other hand he is not having psychosis like symptoms , There are good reasons to believe cannabis could be healing for brain damage possibly caused by the NBOMEs.

And as I have repeatedly said, all I am saying is that cannabis is a promising treatment for brain damage.
That doesn't necessarily mean it's a good choice for the OP specifically. Only he can assess that.

I do know that If I ever suspected myself to have sustained brain damage I would use vaporized and oral cannabis as one part of my recovery process, along with nootropics like Noopept and alpha GPC choline, because there is actual scientific evidence that nootropics and cannabis are useful In these kind of circumstances.

Taking Your advice on the other hand (drink alcohol), would certainly make things worse, as alcohol is directly neurotoxic and carcinogenic and associated with worsening every kind of mental and physical illness.

Having sustained neurological insult from NBOME abuse, increasing alcohol intake will only increase the harm suffered by the brain.

It's quite hilarious that you call my advice (to consider the scientific evidence for the brain healing properties of cannabis) "ridiculous" when you own advice was "try drinking".

:lol:

At end of the day though, the real lesson here is this : stay the fuck away from Nbomes.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF] * 4
    #23478972 - 07/26/16 02:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This is ridiculous.

Have you experienced this first hand? Why are you throwing bullshit articles about nothing out when you have no clue what OP is going through.

Would you give a schizo a joint and tell him to chill if he was having full on hallucinations?

Neuroprotective and psychologically helpful are 2 completely different things




I had to hit a schizophrenic (coincidentally my best friend) with 3mg ativan IM after she kicked me (240 lbs, 13%bf) like five feet into a wall, onto my ass. I helped her through two schizophrenic events before that. The point of this is that she wanted to smoke weed, and then she garbled down over 7g of cubes :facepalm: behind my back.

Weed is not good for your brain moonshoe, and certainly not to anyone with mental disorders. You've been posting a lot of bullshit recently, on subjects that you have no perceivable authority to speak on (or medical reports and journals to substitute for it), and much of it has been dangerous. It pisses me off when I see dangerous medical advice on the internet, and especially on the shroomery.

I swear to fucking god if you mention weed for brain damage as primary treatment without going to see a neurologist one more time I'm going to hound your ass with science until you either rage quit, or accept science/medicine (not any of that vormag rosewater-esque shit)


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: abltsandwich] * 5
    #23479043 - 07/26/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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At least a few people have chimed in reasonably.
And then there's a few people on the SHROOMERY of all places telling someone to not smoke weed? 

:whattefuck2: GTFO.




The Shroomery is about the spread of information and harm reduction.

If someone is experiencing some life-affecting issues from drug use and is using weed still, it can help to get back to total baseline to re-evaluate what is going on.

Especially when the symptoms OP described can be caused and exacerbated by weed- anxiety, a heavy headed feeling, no motivation, extreme thinking....


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23479048 - 07/26/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23479134 - 07/26/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

So what do you guys think? I'll be good? I don't think its brain damage because like i still function and all that and yadadada and i don't think i consumed enough to cause brain damage.. Possibly serotonin disorder though. Idk gimme feedback.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23479164 - 07/26/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

serotonin syndrome? no, probably not. brain damage is hard to 'feel' per se in some cases. Just get exercise, drink water, get rest, do what you need to do... your body will heal more than likely. Don't stress it. If you feel your symptoms worsening or not subsiding, talk to a good professional about it. preferably one that understands what a psychedelic drug is.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23479232 - 07/26/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well now that you mention it my head sometimes gets random pains but they come and go more so when im thinking about them then anything else. And i feel like my bodily movements are just off all together like i have to be one step slower its hard to explain lol. but idk its like neurons in my head are trying to connect but theyre not typ of feeling .


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23479238 - 07/26/16 04:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure. I think everyone gets weird random pains, I know I do but that was present long before I ever did drugs.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23479254 - 07/26/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah thats true but its just weird. Idk ill get it cleared up tomorrow with neuro app.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23479263 - 07/26/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

just a heads up, your doc will not likely know what the hell 25i is. you'll need to explain to him that it's a hallucinogenic phenthylamine similar to mescaline and yada yada yada and he may still not know what the hell you're talking about


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23479272 - 07/26/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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just a heads up, your doc will not likely know what the hell 25i is. you'll need to explain to him that it's a hallucinogenic phenthylamine similar to mescaline and yada yada yada and he may still not know what the hell you're talking about




Dr's really don't like hearing "hallucinogenic phenthylamine similar to mescaline and yada yada yada" :lol:, although it is necessary to be honest with your doctor for your own sake. The hippocratic oath is in place for a reason, and hipaa laws are pretty clear.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23479276 - 07/26/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

All places booked till end of the year so looks like im just riding the waves. But this time ima actually try and see what comes out of it.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: falsereality]
    #23479277 - 07/26/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ugh lol... Hopefully this all turns out to be extra positive.


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    #23479278 - 07/26/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My neurologist i saw didn't know what mushrooms were. just saying. he told me to go back to school. I was like yeah, uh, that's cool and all... but what about the weird fucking shit happening to me? I stopped doing drugs for a year or so and i leveled out.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23479286 - 07/26/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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All places booked till end of the year so looks like im just riding the waves. But this time ima actually try and see what comes out of it.




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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23479291 - 07/26/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What were u ging thru? did u exp something similar to me? were u 100% off everything including caffine and did this all turn out to be positive? Also hows tolerance to other subs now plz respond.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: falsereality]
    #23479295 - 07/26/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nah colorado all local nuero pleaces here are booked till end of year like wtf?


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404] * 4
    #23479369 - 07/26/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm going to completely ignore the data you presented and post about a condition completely irrelevant to the OP




Yep, typical moonshoe post. Op probably doensn't have alzheimer's or huntingtons or hypoxia-ischemia, you're posting stuff that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the OP.



Also, cannabidol is another story, and the weed you typically buy from dealers and shops isn't really going to be CBD specific grown... if you live in a medi state, yeah sure you can get some from a dispensary, but that's about the extent of that. THC can worsen brain-fog and memory, and is known to be neurotoxic in the long-term due to it's lipophilic properties from the article that i linked above.




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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23479382 - 07/26/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Nah colorado all local nuero pleaces here are booked till end of year like wtf?




A, that's bullshit, I know for an ABSOLUTE FACT that is bullshit. Going into how I know this would lead to a security issue on my side identity wise, but if you would like me to direct you to a good neuro place that isn't booked that heavily, feel free to email me jsmith4673872098@gmail.com.

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: falsereality]
    #23479401 - 07/26/16 05:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yah i didnt get it either rlly a bunch of bs


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: falsereality] * 2
    #23479408 - 07/26/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You made this thread 6 months ago and got the same advice as now, you should of tried it then and for all you know you could of been feeling better by now, halt all drugs, weed especially. If it's that bad go to a neurologist or some other specialist but I can almost guarantee you they'll tell you to do the exact same thing before trying anything else, eating healthy, sober, exercise.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23479414 - 07/26/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I knw it wasnt as easy as stated and i wanted new advice just to see if theres any upcoming information on the long term of the 25i is all


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23479509 - 07/26/16 06:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not aware of any case studies they've done on the nbomes, but from personal experience I'll say they're trash, and I'm fairly certain they're pretty toxic (relative to classic psyches.)

one more for the - quit smoking weed especially and take care of yourself.

I used to burn a ton as well, wasn't feeling well mentally, chilled out with everything and would take the occasional mushroom trip.

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23479516 - 07/26/16 06:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Good to hear.. Starting my life change sequence now.. Can't live like this anymore lol


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23479531 - 07/26/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

nothing to laugh about man.

But I'm glad you're taking steps to get healthy. :hug:

Good luck

The weed will always be there and maybe it can be positive in your life once again, or maybe the chapter closed.
Either way nothing is forever and try not to get hung up on, "this drug is really good for me" cause that may be true one day but not the next.

I really miss smoking weed but every time I do these days I don't feel better.  I'll take a baby hit here and there before bed, but that's about it, and I'm ok with it now


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23479598 - 07/26/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wasn't literal and thats horrible to hear because weed is my dire love ever since i started smoking it 4 years ago... Got to smoke it for about 2 years before these effects became abroad. Horrible to think about how weed might not ever be the same but i wont know until I try... Tbh idk man


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    #23479602 - 07/26/16 06:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I smoked from the time I woke up til i passed out for 10 years.

You'll be fine.

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    #23479644 - 07/26/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Take care of your polydrug abuse problem and your mental health will improve. In the meantime find a counselor and don't burn yourself out worse. Social services offers counseling for free or based on income.


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    #23479654 - 07/26/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Like right now i wanna smoke so fucking bad but kno i cant.. I literally bought wax last week and a new rig like a month ago and know i cant smoke it. Sucks cause Back in the begginging of 2013 before all this i was golden. Horrible man.


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    #23479679 - 07/26/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's clearly not helping and seems to be exacerbating your problems.

Who knows, if you're 18 to 24 it could be a warning sign of schizophrenia or schizoeffective disorders and have nothing to do with your drug use. Which is why it's extra important to seek help if this continues beyond your sobriety.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden]
    #23479886 - 07/26/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Don't think its schiz bro.. I'm not crazy or anything its more of what I think about when I'm high from the past trips and what not and even sometimes when sober have a horrible headspace. Longest ive quit for since ive noticed all this is two weeks and i did see improvement but nothing special.. Soon as I smoked again it was a nightmare.. Took two breaks throughout this whoke almost 2 year period.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: falsereality]
    #23480187 - 07/26/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This is ridiculous.

Have you experienced this first hand? Why are you throwing bullshit articles about nothing out when you have no clue what OP is going through.

Would you give a schizo a joint and tell him to chill if he was having full on hallucinations?

Neuroprotective and psychologically helpful are 2 completely different things




I had to hit a schizophrenic (coincidentally my best friend) with 3mg ativan IM after she kicked me (240 lbs, 13%bf) like five feet into a wall, onto my ass. I helped her through two schizophrenic events before that. The point of this is that she wanted to smoke weed, and then she garbled down over 7g of cubes :facepalm: behind my back.

Weed is not good for your brain moonshoe, and certainly not to anyone with mental disorders. You've been posting a lot of bullshit recently, on subjects that you have no perceivable authority to speak on (or medical reports and journals to substitute for it), and much of it has been dangerous. It pisses me off when I see dangerous medical advice on the internet, and especially on the shroomery.

I swear to fucking god if you mention weed for brain damage as primary treatment without going to see a neurologist one more time I'm going to hound your ass with science until you either rage quit, or accept science/medicine (not any of that vormag rosewater-esque shit)




:lol:

I posted science and studies. If you have science and studies of your own that present a different argument, post those.

In case you didn't notice, I have said repeatedly that anyone with schizophrenia, psychosis, or psychosis like symptoms should not smoke marijuana.

Presumably you missed that, because otherwise your bitching makes no sense.

Posting large font green text is not making a convincing case.

My opinion is sincere and so far I have done a far better job providing empirical support for my case that marijuana is a neuroprotective with legitimate uses for the treatment of brain damage than you have proving the opposite.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23480532 - 07/26/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wooooooooooooow.


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    #23480588 - 07/26/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin] * 1
    #23480590 - 07/26/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23480670 - 07/26/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

mmmmmm back 2 the topic.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 1
    #23481060 - 07/27/16 02:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No one's gonna say keep smoking yourself retarded while your brain is recovering from a severe fry. Just stop smoking weed. Have some self respect and show some form of self control.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden]
    #23481595 - 07/27/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Again, I said repeatedly and clearly right from my first post-
What I am saying about the brain health benefits of cannabis isn't specifically directed at the OP.


It can't be. Not only is that against the rules, I also don't know nearly enough about the OP or his situation to make any informed recommendations .

We don't know if he has some kind of brain damage from NBOME , or is just lethargic form being too stoned all the time.

Some people benefit from cutting down on weed or cutting it out.

Others find it a useful medicine for things including brain damage.

I have posted the science supporting those uses and said that if I had brain damage from nbome or other causes I personally would use cannabis to heal myself because of the science I posted.

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    #23481622 - 07/27/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

You're back peddaling so hard. It's all too clear you posted weed as a suggestion for the OP beleiving that he incurred some sort of damage as a result, otherwise you wouldn't have even posted it! You've only added "but i'm not suggesting it to the op" to stop yourself from being banned after a warning for making a suggestion on monday in place of CTE.... Stop trying to act like that's not what happened.

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Weed has a lot of neuroprotective benefits and a lot of benefits for people who have suffered brain damage. I'm sure what you are experiencing is the result of the extreme toxicity of nbomes including likely Brain damage from the nbomes. Because cannabis is very beneficial for many kinds of Brain damage, I personally believe that cannabis is more likely to help than to harm, unless you are experiencing psychosis which it could worsen. I am not telling you to use any drug, I am just saying the balance of research strongly supports cannabis use helping , not hurting, brain damage recovery and brain healing.





That is a suggestion guised as a non-suggestion.


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    #23481956 - 07/27/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I said what I needed to say to be three things
1. Supported by science
2. Within site rules and responsible conduct
3. With integrity to what I actually believe

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    #23481980 - 07/27/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It was more of me just thinking "Well im fucked now so might as well just keep going" But those thoughts def subsided.


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    #23481999 - 07/27/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Glad to hear you're not stressing too much over it iLLex, worrying about it less might even be beneficial to you at this point.


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    #23482025 - 07/27/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I mean its like I think about it and a lot of it I know is in my head.. Like yesterday I went to an interview (Wasn't Stoned) and the interviewer said I was the best she's had all day and basically said I got the job... I feel like if I would of took it a couple months ago it would of been the exact opposite. The one thing that I know isn't just in my head though is the horrible headspace I get all day if that makes any sense... Also muscle tension like I always gotta focus heavily on my bodily movements so I don't trip up or spill a glass of soda ect. Just doesnt feel natural? I'm sure 6 months of sobriety will drastically change everything considering I haven't tried it since the day this all started. Day 2 no pot we'll see how it goes.


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    #23482028 - 07/27/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Like I said, if things don't improve in a month or few, talk to a doctor about your problems, and push to get scans and tests if you can afford the visits. Congrats on the job!


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    #23482033 - 07/27/16 11:16 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks and overall things have gotten better with time.. even without quitting substances such as my cognitive ability and ability to focus also HPPD has decreased immensly.


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    #23482068 - 07/27/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel like that nbome substance causes brain damage. I've heard some horrible things about the after effects.

Op, my recommendation is too steer clear of any mind altering substance and plug back into society. Good luck with your job and keep positive. In time I believe you'll get better. But as stated by several others if problems persist and get worse seek professional help


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    #23482077 - 07/27/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It could potentially cause brain damage and tbh I sometimes feel like I have it but I don't think I took near the amount I would need to take actually cause perm effects on the brain like drug induced damage. Hopefully..


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 1
    #23482079 - 07/27/16 11:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There ya go! There's nothing for healing the mind like some good ol' focus on a virtuous object ( in this case, getting to baseline ).

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    #23482088 - 07/27/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I just wish I would of started the getting back to baseline at the beggining os 2015 because thats when the effects begin. But its never too late.


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    #23482138 - 07/27/16 11:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

the mind is insanely malleable.


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    #23482247 - 07/27/16 12:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yes it is...


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23482711 - 07/27/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I like the part where OP said he's been taking nbomes consistently for months and most of the people go straight to blaming the pot :rofl:


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Shroomism]
    #23482717 - 07/27/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think people were outright blaming weed 100% for the problems entailed in the OP, just that they probably wouldn't help ease the symptoms listed, rather exacerbate them


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #23482718 - 07/27/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

the nbomes are trash, but that isn't totally insane usage IMO based on how it was spread out, and I know that for me personally, long term injection of the pot was worse for me than psyches.


I'm not gonna hate on it and demonize the devils lettuce, but I think it's hard to argue that he shouldn't just go sober for a bit and balance out.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23482723 - 07/27/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe. I just think its hilarious people went straight to the pot. My friend took nbomes once and was in the mental ward for two weeks, it fucked his brain.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Shroomism]
    #23482738 - 07/27/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think everyone usually just goes to whatever their personal experiences have been.

your homie got fucked hard by one dose of a trash rc, I smoked heavily for years and started to have some negative effects from it,

tomatoe potatoe :shrug:

At the end of the day I think if anyone is having any kind of mental instabilities though, step one is sober up.  Even from "just weed"

:2cents:

by all means the weed debate got a little heavy in here though


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #23482743 - 07/27/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe. I just think its hilarious people went straight to the pot. My friend took nbomes once and was in the mental ward for two weeks, it fucked his brain.




some people end up in the psyche ward after LSD, and i doubt marijuana would help them either


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    #23482790 - 07/27/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I honestly 100% agree that the pot isn't the reason to blame for this (I'm the OP btw) But i do believe to some degree that it did in a way contribute to the problem especially considering that I smoked it for 4 straight years consistently. I also continued to smoke it even when these problems came to the surface. By no means Am I saying that the weed is the reason for it but its def not helping my problem though. I used to be able to smoke weed just fine and be the happiest person in the world. Today is day 2 of no pot and already noticing considerable improvements in anxiety and just overall cognitive function. Besides all this the headspace even when I'm not high is just horrible.. Very heavy headed feeling?


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23482842 - 07/27/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yep I can totally relate to the diving helmet. Huge pressure spike in the head, it takes a long time to decompress.

Do you exercise and stretch? Doing both of those things will help with the head pressure immensely.

I'm at the point now where I can run 6 miles nonstop in the heat as a good workout, and for the most part that annoying and sometimes frightening head pressure is all but entirely gone. So i've gotten into much better shape, and it drastically improved my outlook on life and general wellbeing.

Btw it was nbome that really threw me into some troubled waters as well. Something about that chemical... it's just not fit for consumption. It is nothing like LSD, except for some reminiscent feelings of consciousness expansion.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23482859 - 07/27/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Weed can make you paranoid as well, so it might even be making you worry and focus on the possibility that you have brain damage, thus amplifying the anxiety effects and round and round she goes.

Weed, especially dank nugs, can be a pretty intense experience.  Once you get completely sober and have no THC in your system if you try smoking again you'll see what I mean.  It can be a full-on trip.

I know when my tolerance is down I can get strong mental imagery/visual enhancement and auditory sensations from a nice fat dab.  Last time that happened I was walking and I remembered there was an ice cream shop up around the corner and in my mind I saw a cartoonish hand swirling and motioning towards in its direction. 

When I smoke all day every day those effects tend to be diminished for me.

I personally have little self-control when it comes down to weed so IDK if I'll pick it back up after this detox session.  I might but I end up spending hella money on it and have a hard time quitting.  But once I can make it past a couple days and the rationalizations then I'm good.

Currently I'm working on getting my license back.  I don't think they're going to drop me but I'd rather have peace of mind that I'm clean when I go in for an updated evaluation.  The back of my mind tells me they won't and it tries to convince me to smoke.  Then it will tell me that the way the world is going, there might not even be a government in 5 months so I might as well not even quit.  Both of these are just excuses my brain is trying to use to convince me to get high when realistically I'd rather have my license and be confident if they try to drop me. 

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23482863 - 07/27/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I agree and disagree.. I feel as if NBOMEs chems could actually be very enjoyable and have no profound negative effects if taken in moderation. The NBOMEs gave me the best trips of my life aside from shrooms. LSD wasn't as special IMO but it felt hell of a lot cleaner. I think my problem was the binge. Question tho... how much did u take and for how long? How long did it take for you to get out of the funk? Do you smoke bud?


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23482918 - 07/27/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The reason the discussion focused more on the weed is because the NBOME abuse was over a year ago and his weed use is occurring at present (or ended two days ago).

What good does discussing the NBOME use any further than "That was probably a bad idea" considering there aren't even any studies on NBOME?

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #23482924 - 07/27/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Could of not even been the NBOMe for all I know I just threw that in there cause the long term effects are unknown and that really worried me. I started noticing the effects more then ever tho after my last pure L trip this was months after i stopped using RCs.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Shroomism]
    #23482954 - 07/27/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I like the part where OP said he's been taking nbomes consistently for months and most of the people go straight to blaming the pot :rofl:




I like the part where "maybe seek professional help" got glossed over. There's obviously something wrong. He needs to talk to a professional not the Shermery.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden]
    #23482958 - 07/27/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

fuck it hit the pook


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden] * 1
    #23482963 - 07/27/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Prof. Help will either put me on SSRIs or tell me exactly what you guys are saying from what I understand.. IAM however going to see a neuro soon just to clear things up :smile:


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden]
    #23482972 - 07/27/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Their only response would be to take antipsychotics and SSRIs.

Hell become a zombie. Its better advice to tell him to quit weed and see how that goes rather than going and hin going on antipsychotics


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF]
    #23482979 - 07/27/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I fully agree with you.. If that doesnt do it then hell maybe i do need them? I've heard of ones like prozac working really well but I will only fall to them if I'm completely out of all other options. I'm still very strong minded especially when not high so I'm sure things will get better.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 1
    #23482988 - 07/27/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not a doctor but I suspect that most of your issues will get better with a solid chunk of sobriety, healthy diet and exercise.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23483010 - 07/27/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I agree and one of the things I've noticed is this... I've always had some sort of social anxiety and shyness and a few other anxiety issues like worrying and thngs like that but the psychs really exuberated them. What I'm hoping to gain from this though is not only to learn and change for positive reason but to also help me better understand those problems I one faced and still faced today and hopefully end up terminating them or making them feel as if there not even there. With hard work and the willingness to do so along with meditation and healthy eating ect.. I feel as if all this could end up to be a positive thing. I think the Shamans get into induced states of psychosis on purpose to try and gain and learn and come out stronger then once before. Thats just what i heard tho.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23483027 - 07/27/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've always had some sort of social anxiety and shyness and a few other anxiety issues like worrying and thngs like that but the psychs really exuberated them.



funny. I grew up with the same issues but weed made them worse and psyches helped them.


Quote:

With hard work and the willingness to do so along with meditation and healthy eating ect.. I feel as if all this could end up to be a positive thing.



I think that you'll be right.
Check out the book be here now. It's probably my favorite and tells a story about a man who rebuilt himself, and has a lot of perspectives on it that helped me work through anxiety issues.


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I think the Shamans get into induced states of psychosis on purpose to try and gain and learn and come out stronger then once before. Thats just what i heard tho.



that's literally what shamanism is about. using altered states to learn or gain information i order to heal themselves or others.

I spent lots of time meditating with and without the help of natural psyches to work through a really tough time in my life, and I think they were onto something with the methods.

sober meditation will do absolute wonders alone if you have the dedication to stick with it too.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23483046 - 07/27/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Psychs always made me somewhat worried as with pot up until i binged on all this it always made me basically calmed downed and just overall happy as hell.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23483050 - 07/27/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Do you not smoke weed?


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23483072 - 07/27/16 05:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

not like I used to at all, and honestly these days I probaly smoke anywhere from once every two weeks, to maybe 4 times a week.

but I'm taking baby ass rips, and won't touch it if I'm tripping


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23483076 - 07/27/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ahh i see were u ever heavy user?


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23483089 - 07/27/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, I've mentioned that in this thread multiple times now.

go back and read them


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23483094 - 07/27/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

My b bruh... don't really keep track of the names too well yet.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 1
    #23483096 - 07/27/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Weed straight up reks my trips these days, phil. i'm the same way


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: 404]
    #23483104 - 07/27/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I used to love smoking weed while tripping... Now I can barely smoke it at all lol.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF]
    #23483115 - 07/27/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Their only response would be to take antipsychotics and SSRIs.

Hell become a zombie. Its better advice to tell him to quit weed and see how that goes rather than going and hin going on antipsychotics




Who said anything about putting him on drugs? I certainly didn't. I suggested he talk to someone and SSRI's and antipsychotics got pulled out of a hat.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23483123 - 07/27/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I used to love smoking weed while tripping... Now I can barely smoke it at all lol.




I took 6 years & 5 months off weed. Started smoking again on 2/7/10. It just didn't do it for me any more. Made my headspace worse. It became fun again, and so did psychedelics. When people ask about long term problems caused by drug use, I'll link them this thread about pre-existing conditions.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden]
    #23483132 - 07/27/16 05:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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My b bruh... don't really keep track of the names too well yet.



No worries. I mostly just remember people avatars. (the little pics by their names. it's easier.)

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Weed straight up reks my trips these days, phil. i'm the same way



yeah man. I can take a baby toke on a comedown of certain drugs, but usually I just play it safe. A long time ago I was pretty rocked on some good L, and took a hit, and learned real quick that it turbo charges the acid for me. turned a couple hits into what felt like a 10 strip for a minute

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Their only response would be to take antipsychotics and SSRIs.

Hell become a zombie. Its better advice to tell him to quit weed and see how that goes rather than going and hin going on antipsychotics




Who said anything about putting him on drugs? I certainly didn't. I suggested he talk to someone and SSRI's and antipsychotics got pulled out of a hat.



yeah, people jumped to conclusions, but somewhat rightfully so IMO.

Most doctors that I've heard friends and family deal with, the first answer for any kind of mental trouble is just one drug or another.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden]
    #23483140 - 07/27/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Can't wait for the day I can toke again and its nothing but good vibes and a nice headspace.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
    #23483147 - 07/27/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Because it usually is. Finding someone to talk to and finding a prescriber are two different things, unless you're in private practice or have good clinics around. My tax dollars go to make these services available, and heck I use them on the free too, but it sucks seeing people talk about what they want to do and never take the initiative to do it (not aimed at OP).


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden]
    #23483154 - 07/27/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

fair.

totally fair.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: Adden]
    #23483156 - 07/27/16 05:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Aye took me a year until I said I'm done feeling like this.


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23483591 - 07/27/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX] * 3
    #23486547 - 07/28/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Day 3 no pot already seeing results.. Can't wait for a few months from now.


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    #23486552 - 07/28/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:congrats:


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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: iLLeXXXX]
    #23486836 - 07/28/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice!!!!!

Super excited for you man, youll see how much youe life will improve

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Re: 25i / shroom afterhell FEEDBACK [Re: JvF]
    #23487277 - 07/28/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yessir march 14th 2017 will be the next time I touch pot !!


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    #23487589 - 07/28/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yessir march 14th 2017 will be the next time I touch pot !!




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    #23487908 - 07/29/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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