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Riona9000
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23479418 - 07/26/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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But I didn't let it sit separated, the problem was pulling before it had a chance to fully separate and therefore ended up with both solutions in the pull
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23479475 - 07/26/16 05:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah, yes that is very important.
Just did the 2nd run of my two 750ml tapered glass bottles. 50g ACRB each.
10 min total for 4 shakes / 1 pull per bottle.
2 pulls each. (did 2 on Friday) then tossed
Using carbonated spring water bottle with liner pulled. Never want plastic or rubber contacting an organic solvent
Reducing, cooling and freeze precip atm.
Have second litre reducing rt now from salvaged pulp.
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23479806 - 07/26/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you, Snazz, for all your help and advice. You have been great! And good luck on your project!
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23479834 - 07/26/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok....well, I went ahead with the freeze precip. with the odd colored naphtha to see wha happens, as I said earlier. But instead of putting the used naphtha (since it wasn't good) back in the soup for the next pull, I put fresh naphtha....huge difference from what I got in the first pull! It separated better, it wasn't nearly as cloudy and only minutely brownish. It looks so much better! I also used a separatory funnel this time, which made a difference. I also went straight to freeze precip. this time so we shall see what comes out of it. If none of this project comes out useable I'll just take it as a learning experience. I have more ACRB and will try another method or tweak my current one if this doesn't work. Either way, I thank everyone for your help! I have a pic of the most recent pull so you can see the difference. I will also post pics of the end result of this pull once I take out f the freezer tomorrow!

It looks so much better than the first pull!
Edited by Riona9000 (07/26/16 07:38 PM)
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23479876 - 07/26/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your welcome 
Yep, that looks just like what I pulled today. If you don't end up with much dropping out, then evap 50% and give it a go again.
Can also use the leftover naphtha for a later pull. Since it will be saturated, you should get 100% of the dissolved alk precipitating
Good luck
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23479950 - 07/26/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whew! That eases my mind some! Good to know! Thanks! And I'll give the 50% evap if it comes down to that, but I'm hoping it won't. And yeah, my intention is to keep this naphtha for another batch if it comes out ok since it's already saturated. I just hope I get at least a somewhat decent yield out of this whole batch. How many pulls do you think I might be able to get out of this batch before it's spent? I know 4 generally, but should I keep pulling till there are no more crystals?
And one more question....on my next batch I was considering a STB trek instead of A/B extraction. But I'm concerned about the fats in it, since it's ACRB. What are your thoughts on this?
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23479973 - 07/26/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You can STB but you will have to convert it again to not end up with goo.
You will be really surprised what the naphtha looks like after the defat. During the 2hr basification keep an eye out for floating foam and delicately scoop it with a spoon
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23480004 - 07/26/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ah! Good to know! Thanks for that! I'm still not sure if that's the route I'm going to go the next time. Honestly, it depends on how well this turns out. I've learned a lot already just from the horror of the first pull haha, so maybe I can just tweak this tek a bit to perfect it! We shall see! My decision will be made tomorrow when I see how the crystals come out after leaving the freezer!
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23480005 - 07/26/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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As for #pulls ... I did 4, but I also did freeze thaw water extraction plus an 8hr acidic simmer. And all 16 shakes were very violent. Never had it emulsify once with Max Ion Tek.
Most people pull until they don't get a colour change I think. I just try and be thorough for the 4
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23480021 - 07/26/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok will do! Thanks!
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23480080 - 07/26/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mhm! Hopefully your project is fruitful
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Riona9000
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23480141 - 07/26/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Than you! I hope yours is as well!
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000] 1
#23480194 - 07/26/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know I should've left it alone, but I couldn't help but to peek in the freezer at the dish from the second pull and there are so many white crystals forming! And it's only been in the freezer for a little over an hour! I'm excited to see what the end results will look like tomorrow....I'm going to be patient now and leave it be til tomorrow, and will post more pics then!
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
Edited by Riona9000 (07/26/16 09:05 PM)
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Riona9000
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23481464 - 07/27/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well, I have crystals! I'm surprised, honestly that I got more than goo, but I definitely didn't expect to open the freezer and see this georgeousness! I feel so relieved and excited!!

Before pouring the naphtha

Look at that!

So pretty!
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23481505 - 07/27/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Congrats!
How much bark did you use in this run?
My yield for 100g seems pretty low, although I haven't weighed it yet.
Might just be a low quality source too, as Acacia Confusa can have 2.5% by weight due to NMT
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23481518 - 07/27/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks! I feel so relieved!
I haven't weighed mine either, mostly because it's still drying, but also because I left some of it still in the freezer. I decided to let some stay longer to see what difference there is.
But I used 1kg of bark for this. When I started having all that trouble in the beginning my first thought was that I should've done a smaller batch for my first try at it. But I guess that wasn't the problem lol
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23481553 - 07/27/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hah, ya most advise to start with a smaller run to get used to extraction and acid/base purification.
I might start up a half kilo run tomorrow and have it stewed for the weekend.
My dish in the freezer this morning had identical crystal snowflakes scattered around. Cool
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23481569 - 07/27/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome! It sure does make you feel good and quite proud of yourself when you see the fruits of your labor, doesn't it? Especially when they're so pretty to look at! I hope my boyfriend is ready to see me blasted to another realm tonight lol
Good luck with your weekend project! Hopefully you will get the most out of it possible!
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Riona9000]
#23481632 - 07/27/16 08:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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For sure! I wasn't a fan of the vapor, unless it was not pure enough or something.
Added some to 3g Lemon Tek after taking some Rue extract. Was a good trip. Likely a very small dose tho. Very new to this lol.
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Re: Dmt extraction;first attempt [Re: Snazz]
#23482576 - 07/27/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not sure how I'm going to do it. I'm mostly wanting to vape it because I've never done it that way before. I've always sandwiched it. But I've heard and read a lot of good things about vaping it, so I think I'm going to give it a go.
Question though....again lol. So after I poured the naphtha I put the dish in front of a fan to dry out the remaining naphtha. I went back to check on it and the crystals that were on the bottom of the dish turned to goo, but the crystals on the sides of the dish maintained shape, only their (for lack of a better word) soft and fluffy almost. Any thoughts on how this could have happened?
-------------------- Tattooing is my hobby, my snakes are my life! Snakes are such amazing, fascinating & GREATLY misunderstood creatures! "You must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with....a HERRING!!" Every day is a good day for a motorcycle ride. 
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