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This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today
    #23476110 - 07/25/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-sagamihara-stabbings-19-dead-8492641

Suspect is a 26-year-old man who went into a police station and said: “I did it”. "I want to get rid of the disabled."


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: goop] * 5
    #23476152 - 07/25/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They should make knives illegal


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23476172 - 07/25/16 05:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Arent machetes illegal in some places?


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Mr. Magic]
    #23476182 - 07/25/16 05:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Sucks... Defenseless people essentially. But I might be handicapist by saying that. Some of them might have beat the shit out of him.

Still really low though...


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Mr. Magic]
    #23476190 - 07/25/16 05:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Police found a three-inch folding knife at the scene




Son, I am disappoint.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante] * 3
    #23476193 - 07/25/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well at least he was true to his belief system. :resignednonacceptance:


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante]
    #23476195 - 07/25/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Police found a three-inch folding knife at the scene




Son, I am disappoint.




Dude they are handicapped people... It's not like they're gonna step out of their wheelchairs and run away


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Patlal]
    #23476197 - 07/25/16 05:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea it takes alot of strength and stamina to kill 15 people with a knive ... I could have taken the bastard after the 2nd victim started getting stabbed...  japenese men are small by design it would be rather simple


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: goop] * 4
    #23476207 - 07/25/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Why disabled people though?

His punishment should be to become disabled. That'd be like, haha.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Patlal]
    #23476208 - 07/25/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Police found a three-inch folding knife at the scene




Son, I am disappoint.




Dude they are handicapped people... It's not like they're gonna step out of their wheelchairs and run away





Its a dishonorable blade that makes for an inhumane death.








Just two suggestions.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante]
    #23476217 - 07/25/16 05:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

45 wounded. A 3 inch blade. He must have gone in there windmill style. Where the gif of that fat chick doing windmill punches?


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante]
    #23476219 - 07/25/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

There has always been an attitude that the worlds problems can be solved with violence. 

I'm all for embryo selection.  That's a better form of eugenics.  Giving your kids the best chance they can to live a life.

Killing them won't get ride of the inherited diseases.  The nazi's tried that and it wasn't going to work the way genes are passed on.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23476246 - 07/25/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I hope the guy gets crippled in prison if he survives long enough.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Morel Guy] * 1
    #23476248 - 07/25/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:triggered:
FUCKING DIE!


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23476346 - 07/25/16 06:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)


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Dude they are handicapped people... It's not like they're gonna step out of their wheelchairs and run away





Its a dishonorable blade that makes for an inhumane death.








Just two suggestions.




:ifyoucanawe:

What is it with you and knives?

Are you like a likable uncle by day and a serial killer by night?


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: goop]
    #23476358 - 07/25/16 06:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This is pretty common in places where they don't have guns. In China mass stabbings happen all the time, in particular they happen at elementary schools. The mass stabbings happen in that area of life there every single year.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: goop]
    #23476474 - 07/25/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-sagamihara-stabbings-19-dead-8492641

Suspect is a 26-year-old man who went into a police station and said: “I did it”. "I want to get rid of the disabled."




Finally, a serial killer with some sense

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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23476475 - 07/25/16 06:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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There has always been an attitude that the worlds problems can be solved with violence. 

I'm all for embryo selection.  That's a better form of eugenics.  Giving your kids the best chance they can to live a life.

Killing them won't get ride of the inherited diseases.  The nazi's tried that and it wasn't going to work the way genes are passed on.




If by "killing them" you mean the 15 killed in this story then no, Eugenics would not be of any use in combating inherited diseases.
Media reports said, "those killed range in age from 60 to 80" so would have already bred, and potentially passed on their 'genetic fuck ups' to their offspring, way past the time at which Eugenics would be of any use on them, Euthanasia on the other hand...

It is the offspring, that can be tested for carrying these "genetic fuck ups" that should be aborted/ smothered as close to birth as possible, or, as soon as they are found to be possitive carriers of such fuckups, just as the :tard:'s used to be smothered at birth, before the advent of the National Health Service (NHS) or, 'communisticated health care' as Americans might say, and the popularisation of hospital births.

Or, maybe society should allow the breeding of what are little more than human pets that will require a lifetime of looking after.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23476484 - 07/25/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Dude they are handicapped people... It's not like they're gonna step out of their wheelchairs and run away





Its a dishonorable blade that makes for an inhumane death.








Just two suggestions.




:ifyoucanawe:

What is it with you and knives?

Are you like a likable uncle by day and a serial killer by night?




I don't know why you assume he's likable to begin with :shrug:


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante]
    #23476501 - 07/25/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
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Police found a three-inch folding knife at the scene




Son, I am disappoint.




Dude they are handicapped people... It's not like they're gonna step out of their wheelchairs and run away





Its a dishonorable blade that makes for an inhumane death.



What kind of blade was used?

A three-inch tanto or spearpoint blade folding knife with a nice edge could easily cause an instantaneous death in a maniac's hands. Personally I carry a 3.3 inch drop-point blade Benchman that hurts just to look at. I wouldn't necessarily rely on it for combat unless as a last resort, but I wouldn't fuck wit it.

Most likely these handicapped people were sleeping and didn't notice a thing.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23476505 - 07/25/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

A person with inherited diseases can reduce the likelihood of passing those on via embryo screening.  Also a person with no inherited diseases and a family history of inherited diseases can reduce the likelihood of passing those on.

Unfortunately for some families there will be no good viable embryos.

It's sorta the opposite of knocking boots with your cousin thinking your going to better humanity.  Not so sure you would get that.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23476529 - 07/25/16 06:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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deucedbi9 said:
Quote:

Morel Guy said:
There has always been an attitude that the worlds problems can be solved with violence. 

I'm all for embryo selection.  That's a better form of eugenics.  Giving your kids the best chance they can to live a life.

Killing them won't get ride of the inherited diseases.  The nazi's tried that and it wasn't going to work the way genes are passed on.




If by "killing them" you mean the 15 killed in this story then no, Eugenics would not be of any use in combating inherited diseases.
Media reports said, "those killed range in age from 60 to 80" so would have already bred, and potentially passed on their 'genetic fuck ups' to their offspring, way past the time at which Eugenics would be of any use on them, Euthanasia on the other hand...

It is the offspring, that can be tested for carrying these "genetic fuck ups" that should be aborted/ smothered as close to birth as possible, or, as soon as they are found to be possitive carriers of such fuckups, just as the :tard:'s used to be smothered at birth, before the advent of the National Health Service (NHS) or, 'communisticated health care' as Americans might say, and the popularisation of hospital births.

Or, maybe society should allow the breeding of what are little more than human pets that will require a lifetime of looking after.




So eugenics is a safe method of social selection as long as it's not in the form of "racial cleansing." That's what you are saying right?

Here is a good question though. How do you isolate bad genes anyway? What about inherited genes that don't appear as traits in people until they get older? Remember, natural selection already exists in the form of evolution. How exactly do you think people can do a better job of gene selection then nature can?

Ok, so eugenics speaking, without mass murder like Hitler you propose that those born without strong inherited traits be aborted before born? All coupling though will try and pass on the good genes and throw out the bad ones. So are you speaking of trying to cut out all bad genes 100%? Ok, well then if you aborted the kid based on his parents having any slightly defective genes then how would you base their parents defects other then through racial profiling? Also, don't forget some people consider abortion murder.

If you can convince me it's possible without sounding like you are getting close to Hitler's mentality then there's a chance I will agree with you.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: imachavel]
    #23476608 - 07/25/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I cannot for,the life of me read what you wrote.  Ok maybe for he life of me I read just enough to know that ya don't know the subject.

Embryo screening looks for genetic markers associated with absolutely any trait.  It can be a used say for a genius, or blonde hair and blue eyes or even a huge dick or tits!  But it can also select offspring that do not inherit mental illness, diabetes, increased cancer, retardation or any inherited disability such as blindness.  Sure some disabilities happen to people that didn't inherit genes for like having an accident or being shot and losing brain matter or a spinal injury.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23476710 - 07/25/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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f by "killing them" you mean the 15 killed in this story then no, Eugenics would not be of any use in combating inherited diseases.
Media reports said, "those killed range in age from 60 to 80" so would have already bred, and potentially passed on their 'genetic fuck ups' to their offspring, way past the time at which Eugenics would be of any use on them, Euthanasia on the other hand...

It is the offspring, that can be tested for carrying these "genetic fuck ups" that should be aborted/ smothered as close to birth as possible, or, as soon as they are found to be possitive carriers of such fuckups, just as the :tard:'s used to be smothered at birth, before the advent of the National Health Service (NHS) or, 'communisticated health care' as Americans might say, and the popularisation of hospital births.

Or, maybe society should allow the breeding of what are little more than human pets that will require a lifetime of looking after.





Holy shit!  You just went straight up Nazi!


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: lowbrow]
    #23476720 - 07/25/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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deucedbi9 said:
f by "killing them" you mean the 15 killed in this story then no, Eugenics would not be of any use in combating inherited diseases.
Media reports said, "those killed range in age from 60 to 80" so would have already bred, and potentially passed on their 'genetic fuck ups' to their offspring, way past the time at which Eugenics would be of any use on them, Euthanasia on the other hand...

It is the offspring, that can be tested for carrying these "genetic fuck ups" that should be aborted/ smothered as close to birth as possible, or, as soon as they are found to be possitive carriers of such fuckups, just as the :tard:'s used to be smothered at birth, before the advent of the National Health Service (NHS) or, 'communisticated health care' as Americans might say, and the popularisation of hospital births.

Or, maybe society should allow the breeding of what are little more than human pets that will require a lifetime of looking after.





Holy shit!  You just went straight up Nazi!




Lmao

If there could be an army like the nazi's but LSD instead of meth would that be bad?  Something tells me hey wouldn't be nazi's.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: imachavel] * 1
    #23476743 - 07/25/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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imachavel said:
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deucedbi9 said:
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Morel Guy said:
There has always been an attitude that the worlds problems can be solved with violence. 

I'm all for embryo selection.  That's a better form of eugenics.  Giving your kids the best chance they can to live a life.

Killing them won't get ride of the inherited diseases.  The nazi's tried that and it wasn't going to work the way genes are passed on.




If by "killing them" you mean the 15 killed in this story then no, Eugenics would not be of any use in combating inherited diseases.
Media reports said, "those killed range in age from 60 to 80" so would have already bred, and potentially passed on their 'genetic fuck ups' to their offspring, way past the time at which Eugenics would be of any use on them, Euthanasia on the other hand...

It is the offspring, that can be tested for carrying these "genetic fuck ups" that should be aborted/ smothered as close to birth as possible, or, as soon as they are found to be possitive carriers of such fuckups, just as the :tard:'s used to be smothered at birth, before the advent of the National Health Service (NHS) or, 'communisticated health care' as Americans might say, and the popularisation of hospital births.

Or, maybe society should allow the breeding of what are little more than human pets that will require a lifetime of looking after.




So eugenics is a safe method of social selection as long as it's not in the form of "racial cleansing." That's what you are saying right?

Here is a good question though. How do you isolate bad genes anyway? What about inherited genes that don't appear as traits in people until they get older? Remember, natural selection already exists in the form of evolution. How exactly do you think people can do a better job of gene selection then nature can?

Ok, so eugenics speaking, without mass murder like Hitler you propose that those born without strong inherited traits be aborted before born? All coupling though will try and pass on the good genes and throw out the bad ones. So are you speaking of trying to cut out all bad genes 100%? Ok, well then if you aborted the kid based on his parents having any slightly defective genes then how would you base their parents defects other then through racial profiling? Also, don't forget some people consider abortion murder.

If you can convince me it's possible without sounding like you are getting close to Hitler's mentality then there's a chance I will agree with you.




>So eugenics is a safe method of social selection as long as it's not in the form of "racial cleansing."

I mean Eugenics by way of antenatal testing or, as I mentioned, visual diagnosis in certain cases, as a method to reduce the number of people that will be born to a lifelong dependence on the state.
I said nothing about "racial cleansing."

>How do you isolate bad genes anyway?
I don't know how that science works. Others may be able to explain how "embryo selection" works.
Antenatal testing in conjunction with abortion, can screen out a lot of the genetic fuck ups.

>natural selection already exists

We are circumventing "natural selection" every time we breed "human pets" that wouldn't otherwise survive.

>racial profiling?

I don't see the what "racial profiling" has to do with it.

>Also, don't forget some people consider abortion murder.

Well then maybe they should agree that they, and/or their church, if religious consideration is the reason they won't abort, and want to raise a human pet, should pay entirely for the lifelong needs of this, 'blessing from god,' without recourse to state funding.

>If you can convince me.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, just stating an opinion.
Obviously, this won't solve the worlds population, or a countries economic problems, but, a mix of Eugenics and Euthanasia will help to reduce government spending and free up the NHS to treat the treatable, those that will be able to contribute when they are healed.
Again, just stating an opinion.

lowbrow said: "Holy shit!  You just went straight up Nazi!"

wow, you just went straight up.
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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23476755 - 07/25/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Embryo screening looks for embryos without any known inherited diseases and sometimes traits they people want to pass along.  There is no spicing yet, so far.  I think the bible bangers would really shit their pantaloons over that.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23476871 - 07/25/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Embryo screening looks for embryos without any known inherited diseases and sometimes traits they people want to pass along.  There is no spicing yet, so far.  I think the bible bangers would really shit their pantaloons over that.




They screen for embryos without any known inherited diseases?
Seems arsed backwards to me. Embryo screen to enable a choice of eye colour, or size of shlong, rather than awful hereditary genetic fuck ups is just so idiotically superficial.

Are these scientists based in San Francisco, the Sistine fucking Chapel, or some retarded backwater in the bible belt or what?


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: deucedbi9]
    #23476906 - 07/25/16 08:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

No, they select embryos without any markers for already known markers associated with disease.  It is possible new mutations could occur.  We do not know where we are evolving but I do not want to rule out possibility.  I read a theory that all people a long time ago where schizo.  So the mutation to not have delusion was the step forward and psychosis was not the new mutation as is thought to be.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: goop] * 3
    #23476986 - 07/25/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-sagamihara-stabbings-19-dead-8492641

Suspect is a 26-year-old man who went into a police station and said: “I did it”. "I want to get rid of the disabled."





thank god they've outlawed guns in japan, someone could have been killed if the guy had a gun


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23477077 - 07/25/16 09:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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A person with inherited diseases can reduce the likelihood of passing those on via embryo screening.  Also a person with no inherited diseases and a family history of inherited diseases can reduce the likelihood of passing those on.

Unfortunately for some families there will be no good viable embryos.

It's sorta the opposite of knocking boots with your cousin thinking your going to better humanity.  Not so sure you would get that.




That is true, but you can only test for Down's Syndrome and other chromosomal disorders in the first trimester. Mental retardation can be tested for in the 2nd trimester now, but most states do not allow abortions past 12 weeks. Autism still unfortunately cannot be tested for in the womb.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante]
    #23477245 - 07/25/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Police found a three-inch folding knife at the scene




Son, I am disappoint.




Dude they are handicapped people... It's not like they're gonna step out of their wheelchairs and run away





Its a dishonorable blade that makes for an inhumane death.








Just two suggestions.



Those knives would work well indeed for rapid slashing attacks, which in the hands of a master could easily take out a room full of unarmed people. Really, we're lucky there aren't more black belt mass murderers.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #23477267 - 07/25/16 10:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Any sharp knife will do in the hands of a master.


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    #23477275 - 07/25/16 10:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Obviously this is because of gun control


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: D.M.T]
    #23477277 - 07/25/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Any sharp knife will do in the hands of a master.



Even no weapon at all will do in the hands of a master. But the kills with a good blade will be incredibly efficient.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23477279 - 07/25/16 10:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-sagamihara-stabbings-19-dead-8492641

Suspect is a 26-year-old man who went into a police station and said: “I did it”. "I want to get rid of the disabled."





thank god they've outlawed guns in japan, someone could have been killed if the guy had a gun





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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: goop]
    #23477350 - 07/25/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

also applies to japan.... if senpai would even notice we exist




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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23477407 - 07/26/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Lol..wow.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23477517 - 07/26/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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:ifyoucanawe:

What is it with you and knives?

Are you like a likable uncle by day and a serial killer by night?





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    #23477547 - 07/26/16 02:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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also applies to japan.... if senpai would even notice we exist







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: goop]
    #23477786 - 07/26/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today




But was it a fully-automatic, pistol grip assault knife with a silencer?


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Crystal G]
    #23477840 - 07/26/16 06:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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A person with inherited diseases can reduce the likelihood of passing those on via embryo screening.  Also a person with no inherited diseases and a family history of inherited diseases can reduce the likelihood of passing those on.

Unfortunately for some families there will be no good viable embryos.

It's sorta the opposite of knocking boots with your cousin thinking your going to better humanity.  Not so sure you would get that.




That is true, but you can only test for Down's Syndrome and other chromosomal disorders in the first trimester. Mental retardation can be tested for in the 2nd trimester now, but most states do not allow abortions past 12 weeks. Autism still unfortunately cannot be tested for in the womb.





That is not embryo screening.  There is no fetus and it is in a lab not a person when screened.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23477864 - 07/26/16 06:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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A person with inherited diseases can reduce the likelihood of passing those on via embryo screening.  Also a person with no inherited diseases and a family history of inherited diseases can reduce the likelihood of passing those on.

Unfortunately for some families there will be no good viable embryos.

It's sorta the opposite of knocking boots with your cousin thinking your going to better humanity.  Not so sure you would get that.




That is true, but you can only test for Down's Syndrome and other chromosomal disorders in the first trimester. Mental retardation can be tested for in the 2nd trimester now, but most states do not allow abortions past 12 weeks. Autism still unfortunately cannot be tested for in the womb.





That is not embryo screening.  There is no fetus and it is in a lab not a person when screened.




Yes, it is, they do it with blood tests and through amniocentesis.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23477870 - 07/26/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

@asante

I'm surprised he managed to kill that many people with a 3" folding knife, when I went to school in texas we were allowed to carry five inch knives :lol:. Unless this dude knew some arterial anatomy...



This is my baby, goddamn do I love this knife, razor sharp and perfect for opening beers on the back of the blade.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: falsereality] * 2
    #23477889 - 07/26/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice one, this is my altar knife.



But out of respect for the victims lets not turn this into a blade appreciation thread. Maybe we should start one, the gun people have theirs too.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Crystal G]
    #23477910 - 07/26/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If it is not an embryo and is intact a fetus it is not EMBRYO screening.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23477962 - 07/26/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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also applies to japan.... if senpai would even notice we exist







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

:lolsy:





but guns arent banned in the US, there should be no shooting where guns are banned because you know... they're banned


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23478015 - 07/26/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This exact image could also apply to the US, except about bombs instead of guns


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: falsereality]
    #23478066 - 07/26/16 08:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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@asante

I'm surprised he managed to kill that many people with a 3" folding knife, when I went to school in texas we were allowed to carry five inch knives :lol:. Unless this dude knew some arterial anatomy...



This is my baby, goddamn do I love this knife, razor sharp and perfect for opening beers on the back of the blade.



When I went to school I was lucky the principal decided not to call the cops (even though legally he was supposed to) when I accidentally brought a 1.1" multitool with a knife. I brought it right to them because I didn't want them to find it and use it to get me in trouble.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Crystal G] * 2
    #23478084 - 07/26/16 08:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This exact image could also apply to the US, except about bombs instead of guns





which countries dont they ban bombs in?


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23478216 - 07/26/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Bombs must be legal in the Middle East and Africa, where they are more prevalent in their culture.


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    #23478232 - 07/26/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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goop said:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-sagamihara-stabbings-19-dead-8492641

Suspect is a 26-year-old man who went into a police station and said: “I did it”. "I want to get rid of the disabled."





thank god they've outlawed guns in japan, someone could have been killed if the guy had a gun





For real, somebody could have been seriously injured if there was a gun involved.:cookiemonster:


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #23478235 - 07/26/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

even the buses are equipped with bombs, why else would so man be blowing up


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    #23478289 - 07/26/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The reason is because a lot of bombs are very easy to make, they just buy literally 2 ingredients from the hardware store and mix things together. A lot of people have blown up buses that way.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23478305 - 07/26/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The reason is because a lot of bombs are very easy to make, they just buy literally 2 ingredients from the hardware store and mix things together. A lot of people have blown up buses that way.





did you know that guns are also pretty easy to make as well... crazy innit


you clearly dont know shit about hardware stores or bomb making.



what are the two ngredients?


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    #23478345 - 07/26/16 10:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The reason is because a lot of bombs are very easy to make, they just buy literally 2 ingredients from the hardware store and mix things together. A lot of people have blown up buses that way.





did you know that guns are also pretty easy to make as well... crazy innit


you clearly dont know shit about hardware stores or bomb making.



what are the two ngredients?



That depends on the hardware store and your ingenuity. For example, the easily made manganese heptoxide (prepared with acid drain cleaner and potassium permanganate) which is a shock sensitive explosive. Or you can combine stump killer (the kind that's high in nitrates) with any flammable material practically stuff it into the appropriate tube with a fuse. That's just off the top of my head for two ingredient explosives that could be made with stuff from my local hardware store.

Explosives can be simple if you know how they work.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: goop] * 1
    #23478357 - 07/26/16 10:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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“I did it”. "I want to get rid of the disabled."



Good intentions. Bad execution.


We need to nip it in the bud before they become conscious. Eugenics ftw.


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    #23478379 - 07/26/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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#HandsUpDontStab


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    #23478588 - 07/26/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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what are the two ngredients?




Not that I'm not on your side, but she's talking bout AP, or more accurately TATP, tetraacetonetetraperoxide (way more stable than diacetonediperoxide because of bond angles). Now, pure AP is unstable, but can be stabilized with a little knowledge. So, to make a primary high explosive without stabilization you need acetone and hydrogen peroxide, mix those two in a glass beaker and throw in fridge until TATP precipitates, very gently filter and store with extreme caution.

Requires a detonator that has a shockwave of 4k fps.

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    #23478660 - 07/26/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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The reason is because a lot of bombs are very easy to make, they just buy literally 2 ingredients from the hardware store and mix things together. A lot of people have blown up buses that way.





did you know that guns are also pretty easy to make as well... crazy innit


you clearly dont know shit about hardware stores or bomb making.



what are the two ngredients?



There's a few :awesome:

Wasp spray alone would make quite powerful explosive, but you'd need to get like 60 cans


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    #23478671 - 07/26/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For the record Falsereality, that stuff is nowhere near stable or safe. Its easy to handle most of the time and completely randomly blows your hand off at another time.

All that talk about more stable forms is hogwash, the difference is not that great and both forms are present anyway.

Don't ever mess with that stuff people, seriously. Take this from a former pyro kid still in possession of 10 fingers, 2 eyes and both eardrums.


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    #23478690 - 07/26/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea it takes alot of strength and stamina to kill 15 people with a knive ... I could have taken the bastard after the 2nd victim started getting stabbed...  japenese men are small by design it would be rather simple




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    #23478745 - 07/26/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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For the record Falsereality, that stuff is nowhere near stable or safe. Its easy to handle most of the time and completely randomly blows your hand off at another time.

All that talk about more stable forms is hogwash, the difference is not that great and both forms are present anyway.

Don't ever mess with that stuff people, seriously. Take this from a former pyro kid still in possession of 10 fingers, 2 eyes and both eardrums.




Agreed, plus I much prefer tannerite and .308's. Also Hexamine + 10 nitric acid → RDX(stable high explosive) + dinitromethane + ammonium nitrate + 3 H2O, the tricky part is obtaining fuming nitric acid and temperature control of the rxn.


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    #23478792 - 07/26/16 01:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

RDX, lovely stuff. A very loud crack. I did that too as a young teen, hehehe. Way too dangerous, anything near it comes at you at 3 miles a second.

My specialty was detonating firecrackers of 10 grams average. Made the proper way, with paper and glue. It was enough for me, a 10gr detonation is LOUD and that was what I was after. I treated it like nuclear tests, so I suspended the devices to prevent anything being so close to it that it would be thrown.

I'm way too chicken to do any of that as an adult, if you do it right the risk is low but if it does go wrong you are maimed for life.

I like these now. Storebought, gram and a half of hard flash each (30x a US firecracker), nice BOOM without too much danger. The video audio does not do it justice, you feel the shockwave hit your skin.



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    #23478838 - 07/26/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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RDX, lovely stuff. A very loud crack. I did that too as a young teen, hehehe. Way too dangerous, anything near it comes at you at 3 miles a second.

My specialty was detonating firecrackers of 10 grams average. Made the proper way, with paper and glue. It was enough for me, a 10gr detonation is LOUD and that was what I was after. I treated it like nuclear tests, so I suspended the devices to prevent anything being so close to it that it would be thrown.

I'm way too chicken to do any of that as an adult, if you do it right the risk is low but if it does go wrong you are maimed for life.

I like these now. Storebought, gram and a half of hard flash each (30x a US firecracker), nice BOOM without too much danger. The video audio does not do it justice, you feel the shockwave hit your skin.






I know what you mean when you say loud, and those sound delightful. Much like the first dry ice "bombs" I made, I fortified a water bottle with ductape while I had it halfway filled with dry ice and cold water (to slow down sublimation, so I didn't blow my hands off. Threw that in my backyard with fellow neighborhood kids (those were the days, but so are these :smile:) 20m away, that thing sounded louder than my .308, to this date, I have never heard an explosion so loud (this was way louder than a grenade)... pretty soon some police helicopters started flying around my neighborhood :lol:. Never got caught though.

I would definitely love to set some wild firecrackers/works off with you sometime, cookout too, would be a blast.


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    #23478864 - 07/26/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wild firecrackers huh?




Sounds good. This is kinda like my 10 gram "nukes" :smirk:


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    #23478885 - 07/26/16 02:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Wild firecrackers huh?




Sounds good. This is kinda like my 10 gram "nukes" :smirk:




I'm legitimately laughing so hard right now, the dry ice bombs sounded EXACTLY like that. I need to save up some money for another international trip, I have friends in london, vienna, and france that I should visit (non shroomery members); the netherlands isn't too far out of the way (if you would be ok meeting me, that is).

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    #23479597 - 07/26/16 06:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
The reason is because a lot of bombs are very easy to make, they just buy literally 2 ingredients from the hardware store and mix things together. A lot of people have blown up buses that way.





did you know that guns are also pretty easy to make as well... crazy innit


you clearly dont know shit about hardware stores or bomb making.



what are the two ngredients?




Sugar and herbal remover (like Roundup which contains oxidizer) is one.

There's also hydrogen peroxide + acetone peroxide, which will set off an explosion. This is what Palestinians used in the previous intifadas, and they know their shit. Few years ago a Hezbollah operative blew himself up this way in a bus full of Israelis, in Bulgaria...

You can also kill somebody in the bathroom by putting an excess of sodium hydroxide in the sink of the toilet, bleach in the tank. When the guy flushes the toilet, he will get exposed to a massive dose of chlorine and die. Once the gas evaporates, it will look like a natural death, and will be difficult to figure out why he died.


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    #23479646 - 07/26/16 06:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I own guns, and believe in the right for people to do so when properly qualified to do so.

But when a knife attack happens and people act like it somehow proves that gun control is pointless it doesn't ring true to me.

Yes people will still find ways to kill without guns, but it stands to reason the death toll would be higher if the murderer had a gun instead of a knife.

Imagine you were in your office building or school and a mass murderer was about to go on a killing spree.

If you had a choice would you rather the killer be armed with a knife or with a gun ?

Which scenario would make the killer more dangerous and lethal ?

Again, I support the right of people to own guns when properly qualified to do so.

But you can't pretend a crazy murderer with a gun isn't far more dangerous than one with a Knife.

When people try to take knife attacks as some sort of rebuttal of gun control arguments it seems totally transparent and unconvincing to me.

It's like saying "anyone can drive a car into a crowd, so they should be allowed to put a turret mounted machine gun on the car"


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    #23479676 - 07/26/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Reminds me of the debate over "high capacity magazines" becuase obviously they will kill less people; still doesn't address the problem. So it's okay to kill ten kids but not 15? That kinda logic sounds idiotic to me


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    #23480071 - 07/26/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
The reason is because a lot of bombs are very easy to make, they just buy literally 2 ingredients from the hardware store and mix things together. A lot of people have blown up buses that way.





did you know that guns are also pretty easy to make as well... crazy innit


you clearly dont know shit about hardware stores or bomb making.



what are the two ngredients?



That depends on the hardware store and your ingenuity. For example, the easily made manganese heptoxide (prepared with acid drain cleaner and potassium permanganate) which is a shock sensitive explosive. Or you can combine stump killer (the kind that's high in nitrates) with any flammable material practically stuff it into the appropriate tube with a fuse. That's just off the top of my head for two ingredient explosives that could be made with stuff from my local hardware store.

Explosives can be simple if you know how they work.





manganese heptoxide... you forgot you'll also need a high molarity sulfuric acid,
something you wont find at a hardware store and exceeds the 2 ingredient limit

the ANFO explosive with stump killer also isnt going to cut it because you'll need
more than the stump killer and what ever flammable shit you're imagining, you'll
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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23480098 - 07/26/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I own guns, and believe in the right for people to do so when properly qualified to do so.





who determine's what is properly qualified?


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But when a knife attack happens and people act like it somehow proves that gun control is pointless it doesn't ring true to me.

Yes people will still find ways to kill without guns, but it stands to reason the death toll would be higher if the murderer had a gun instead of a knife.





and yet there are thousands of gun involved murders in this country each year in
which only one person is shot, why were there not dozens shot each time that a gun
is involved. you have explicitly stated that if a gun was involved then more
people would have died. how is it possible that all of these thousands of murders
only had a single victim

oh, maybe because it isnt the weapon that is the problem but the person wielding it


I would deem you unfit to own a gun simply because you believe the gun is inherently dangerous


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    #23480158 - 07/26/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Crystal G said:
The reason is because a lot of bombs are very easy to make, they just buy literally 2 ingredients from the hardware store and mix things together. A lot of people have blown up buses that way.





did you know that guns are also pretty easy to make as well... crazy innit


you clearly dont know shit about hardware stores or bomb making.



what are the two ngredients?




Sugar and herbal remover (like Roundup which contains oxidizer) is one.





lol... no.



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There's also hydrogen peroxide + acetone peroxide, which will set off an explosion. This is what Palestinians used in the previous intifadas, and they know their shit. Few years ago a Hezbollah operative blew himself up this way in a bus full of Israelis, in Bulgaria...




hahaha... and just what brand name would I buy acetone peroxide under at the hardware store?

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You can also kill somebody in the bathroom by putting an excess of sodium hydroxide in the sink of the toilet, bleach in the tank. When the guy flushes the toilet, he will get exposed to a massive dose of chlorine and die. Once the gas evaporates, it will look like a natural death, and will be difficult to figure out why he died.





you clearly dont know how toilets work. when you flush, you dump the tank which
evacuates the bowl, they lye that was in the bowl is no longer there by the time a
reaction would start. sure, there may be some trace amounts left behind for it to
start generating chlorine gas but the intended victim would have a good 10 minutes
before enough would be released to make him start coughing, assuming it's a small
bathroom with no ventilation

think about what happens with the poo poo when you flush the toilet


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23480174 - 07/26/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I am talking specifically about mass murder sprees. In those cases when someone is intent on a mass murder spree aiming for the maximum number of victims, those mass murderers will be able to kill more when armed with a gun than when armed with a knife.

The reason there are many cases in America each year where only one victim is killed is because none of those are spree killings.

Spree killing is a distinct type of murder, and those murders will be far more lethal when the killer is armed heavily with guns than if they have only knives.

Lets be honest Prisoner1... what I just explained was obvious.

You were either being dishonest or trolling just now, I don't believe you are that stupid.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23480211 - 07/26/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I am talking specifically about mass murder sprees. In those cases when someone is intent on a mass murder spree aiming for the maximum number of victims, those mass murderers will be able to kill more when armed with a gun than when armed with a knife.





mass murder sprees like where some guy goes in and stabs 15 people to death or builds
a bomb and kills 80 people, or drives a truck into a crowd and kills 80 people

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The reason there are many cases in America each year where only one victim is killed is because none of those are spree killings.





or maybe because someone else with a gun stopped them before it was a killing spree

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Spree killing is a distinct type of murder, and those murders will be far more lethal when the killer is armed heavily with guns than if they have only knives.

Lets be honest Prisoner1... what I just explained was obvious.

You were either being dishonest or trolling just now, I don't believe you are that stupid.






sorry. how many guns were used to kill 84 people? how many guns were used on 9/11
to kill 3000 people? if someone wants to go on a killing spree, I think it's
pretty well been proven that they'll find a way and a gun doesnt have to play any
part. the attack in Nice took only a few minutes to kill 84 people, a man had
people trapped for 3 hours in a bar but only killed 50 and wounded 50 more


let it sink in for a few minutes.... 84 dead, 303 wounded in a matter of minutes with
no guns involved other than the one that shot the driver and stopped his rampage

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-crash-idUSKCN0ZU2K7


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    #23480220 - 07/26/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, hypothetical situation time-

Lets say that you Prisoner1 want to kill as many innocent people as you can (obviously I know you would never do this, just a thought experiment).

Are you asking me to believe you would not be more effective in this aim if armed with a semi automatic firearm with a knife?


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    #23480233 - 07/26/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ok, hypothetical situation time-

Lets say that you Prisoner1 want to kill as many innocent people as you can (obviously I know you would never do this, just a thought experiment).

Are you asking me to believe you would not be more effective in this aim if armed with a semi automatic firearm with a knife?





no, it would be more effective to build a bomb or to armor up a large truck

fuck your hypothetical situation. let's talk about real situations, 303 wounded, 84
dead in a matter of a couple of minutes because a madman drove a large truck into a
crowd and started plowing people and he didnt need a fucking gun


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    #23480269 - 07/26/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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hahaha... and just what brand name would I buy acetone peroxide under at the hardware store?




Acetone can be found in some paint thinners, as well as in nail polish remover.

They actually say the Brussels bombing was done with this method, and the guy simply used common items purchased from the hardware store. 



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you clearly dont know how toilets work. when you flush, you dump the tank which
evacuates the bowl, they lye that was in the bowl is no longer there by the time a
reaction would start. sure, there may be some trace amounts left behind for it to
start generating chlorine gas but the intended victim would have a good 10 minutes
before enough would be released to make him start coughing, assuming it's a small
bathroom with no ventilation

think about what happens with the poo poo when you flush the toilet




You mistake what I mean when I say sink of the toilet.

In European and Japanese toilets, there is a sink on top of the toilet for people to wash their hands. It automatically runs with water every time the toilet is flushed, and it mixes with the tank.



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    #23480382 - 07/26/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Acetone can be found in some paint thinners, as well as in nail polish remover.





acetone is not acetone peroxide


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They actually say the Brussels bombing was done with this method, and the guy simply used common items purchased from the hardware store. 






the media says a lot of shit you fail to realize you'll need a catalyst for the
reaction between the two primary ingredients and a neutralizing agent so that's
4 ingredients which exceeds your 2 ingredient maximum


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You mistake what I mean when I say sink of the toilet.

In European and Japanese toilets, there is a sink on top of the toilet for people to wash their hands.






oh... and you still dont understand how any of it works


you flush to toilet and what was in the tank dumps what was in the bowl in
addition to the bulk of what was in the tank, that's what makes the poopie
go down, what runs in the sink is coming straight from the supply line in
order to have pressure for hand washing, it's fresh water and again, if you
managed to set something up, surely the guy would notice the smell of the bleach
in the tank, ble let's assume he doesnt, isnt he going to find the lye in the sink
portion of the toilet that isnt really common anywhere in the world to be a little
unusual? let's assume he doesnt. you flush and all the bleach goes down the drain,
a little of the lye ends up in the tank where the bleach was, a little may be left
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kill the guy because you've also diluted all of it with all that water being used
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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23480387 - 07/26/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I feel like I made my point.

:japsmile:

My point was- there will always be a small number of spree killers. When those spree killers can get their hands on guns, they will on average claim more victim's lives than when they cannot.



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    #23480482 - 07/26/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I feel like I made my point.

:japsmile:

My point was- there will always be a small number of spree killers. When those spree killers can get their hands on guns, they will on average claim more victim's lives than when they cannot.







you didnt really make a point, you got owned as usual

Timother McVey killed 170 people and wounded 700
the 9/11 attack killed almost 3000 and wounded more than 6000 (averaging 156 deaths per hijacker)
the attack in Nice France was 1 man and 300 killed with 600+ injuries


in just those 3 mass killings, 3470 people were killed and more than 7000 were wounded

how many people have been killed in all the mass shootings in the US in the last 34 years?

it doesnt come close to the number. the total killed in all the mass shooting is
634 and that's over the course of 34 years since 1982, how the fuck can you
compare guns to other means of mass killings when just one mass killing killed
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    #23480525 - 07/26/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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My point was- there will always be a small number of spree killers. When those spree killers can get their hands on guns, they will on average claim more victim's lives than when they cannot.






BS. Psychopathic murderers who are intent on inflicting the most amount of damage possible will use any means at their disposal. You know how common mass knife stabbings are in China? No one has guns.. but yet no one seems to mind watching people get hacked to death in the street everyday. Guns are just less messy and more impersonal. Lol what are you gonna do, ban everything? Banning guns doesn't actually solve anything.

19 people dead and like 45 injured. Now just imagine killing one person with a pocket knife.
It can take some serious stabbing to kill someone, humans are pretty resilient. Some people get stabbed 20+ times and survive.
Now do it 18 more times while stabbing another close to 50 people. That's some fucking brutal carnage right there, all from one person. With a knife. Happens all the time when there isn't guns.


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    #23480537 - 07/26/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The same people who want to legalize everything want to ban guns it seems


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    #23481079 - 07/27/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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howsyournaggerdoin said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
also applies to japan.... if senpai would even notice we exist







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

:lolsy:





but guns arent banned in the US, there should be no shooting where guns are banned because you know... they're banned




Theres significantly less gun crime in first world countries that ban guns.


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    #23481648 - 07/27/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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    #23481807 - 07/27/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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howsyournaggerdoin said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
also applies to japan.... if senpai would even notice we exist







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

:lolsy:





but guns arent banned in the US, there should be no shooting where guns are banned because you know... they're banned




Theres significantly less gun crime in first world countries that ban guns.





less gun crime. that doesnt mean less crime


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    #23481847 - 07/27/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea stabbings are pretty brutal.

this is story is pretty fucked up.


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    #23482451 - 07/27/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Theres significantly less gun crime in first world countries that ban guns.




Less gun crime but more homicides? More home invasions? More rapes? SIGN ME UP!!!
Oh wait except you're wrong. In many countries that banned guns... gun violence SPIKED after the gun ban and in some cases continued going up.
In other cases it went back down and was about the same as before the gun ban.











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It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer.  In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime.  In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

    In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
    Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
    Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

    Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
    During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
    Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
    Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
    At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
    Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy.  Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them




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It's funny how nobody gives a shit about the 15 dead handicapped people


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And you do? You only care to use them as a pawn for your own impetus


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    #23482541 - 07/27/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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    #23482596 - 07/27/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #23482849 - 07/27/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's funny how nobody gives a shit about the 15 dead handicapped people






there wasnt a gun involved so they arent dead, koods even said as much a thousand
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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23483137 - 07/27/16 05:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23483677 - 07/27/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's funny how nobody gives a shit about the 15 dead handicapped people




there wasnt a gun involved so they arent dead, koods even said as much a thousand
times. everyone knows you can only kill 19 people if you have an assault weapon




Japanese people actually argue that if there were guns there would be much more crime, especially with massacres.

Besides, how do you stop somebody from having a knife? They have many every day uses, people use them for cooking and to open parcels.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Crystal G]
    #23483697 - 07/27/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's funny how nobody gives a shit about the 15 dead handicapped people




there wasnt a gun involved so they arent dead, koods even said as much a thousand
times. everyone knows you can only kill 19 people if you have an assault weapon




Japanese people actually argue that if there were guns there would be much more crime, especially with massacres.

Besides, how do you stop somebody from having a knife? They have many every day uses, people use them for cooking and to open parcels.



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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #23483989 - 07/27/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's funny how nobody gives a shit about the 15 dead handicapped people




there wasnt a gun involved so they arent dead, koods even said as much a thousand
times. everyone knows you can only kill 19 people if you have an assault weapon




Japanese people actually argue that if there were guns there would be much more crime, especially with massacres.




problem is, you can apparently just go to the hardware store and buy 2 ingredients and make a bomb

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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23484300 - 07/28/16 12:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Under 18s could destroy the nation with those knives, but that photo is clearly Australian. We don't use dollars in the UK.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: EllisDSox]
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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Shroomism]
    #23484418 - 07/28/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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less gun crime. that doesnt mean less crime




Thats true but not relevant

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Why do the countries that ban guns have less gun crime then ? Look at the wikipedia link i posted its pretty obvious


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    #23485096 - 07/28/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Herbologist]
    #23485125 - 07/28/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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less gun crime. that doesnt mean less crime




Thats true but not relevant






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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23485131 - 07/28/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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less gun crime. that doesnt mean less crime




Thats true but not relevant





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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23485204 - 07/28/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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less gun crime. that doesnt mean less crime




Thats true but not relevant






How is that not relevant?




It doesn't fit the gun banning narrative





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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Herbologist] * 5
    #23485218 - 07/28/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: twighead] * 1
    #23485404 - 07/28/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I bet if America Just stopped this pathetic "War on Drugs" and legalized & regulated all drugs, then Gun violence and homicide rates would drop dramatically.



Also if America would just legalize prostitution and regulate that as well... http://www.businessinsider.com/why-america-should-legalize-prostitution-2013-11


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    #23485456 - 07/28/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Guy gets shot by a cop --> pro gun discussion
Cop gets shot by guy  --> pro gun discussion
People get stabbed by a maniac in Japan  --> pro gun discussion
Sheekle hurts his thumb with a can opener  --> pro gun discussion
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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante]
    #23485757 - 07/28/16 01:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I hope the next time someone pulls a gun on me they finish the fucking job


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: trekie]
    #23485833 - 07/28/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

As a general rule, all participants of a knife fight get cut or stabbed unless one is a serious pro and one barely has a clue.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: Asante]
    #23486036 - 07/28/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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As a general rule, all participants of a knife fight get cut or stabbed unless one is a serious pro and one barely has a clue.




Or the first three cuts were meant to be deadly.  Throat, kidney, artery in the leg.  that' pretty much bleed them out quick


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As a general rule, all participants of a knife fight get cut or stabbed unless one is a serious pro and one barely has a clue.




Or the first three cuts were meant to be deadly.  Throat, kidney, artery in the leg.  that' pretty much bleed them out quick




Lolololol... no, this is not how you go against someone with a knife. This is how you die in a knife fight.

The number one rule of knife fights is to not get into one in the first place.

Otherwise, put some distance between you and the knife wielder, try to scan your environment for potential improvised weapons (dry chemical fire extinguishers work well temporarily, and will actually be more effective than tear gas (attacker will inhale whatever the components are, and be temporarily blinded)), immobilize the wrist if you're given a chance and use all your strength to smash the shit out of their hand until they drop the knife. When I say improvised weapons, I mean literally anything that would act as a weapon, molotov cocktails might work if there is a bar around. Rocks, if you can throw one well. Belts, with more metal attached to the end. A large sheet with a rock in the middle... I could go on and on.

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    #23486671 - 07/28/16 05:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I like that advice... I always found in the case of being in a fight with someone with a weapon your best defenses come in the form of very swift, standoffish hard shin kicks to set their balance off (using a sort of knee-snap-fulcrum force multiplying technique) and hand to hand disarming techniques (grabbing wrist and twisting, and a few other arm bars)... it's easy to get cut doing these techniques but I've found that the wounds sustained doing them are often much more minor than what would happen if they continued to be armed... pretty much only ever ended up accidentally grabbing the blade and slicing my fingers but managing to get the weapon out of their hands all the same with a wrist twist.


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: twighead]
    #23486717 - 07/28/16 05:50 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

damn i was just there and they killed everybody ?


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    #23488079 - 07/29/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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less gun crime. that doesnt mean less crime




Thats true but not relevant





it's quite relevant, just because you want to attribute an act with a weapon doesnt
mean that you're correct in doing so but even shroomism has proven that you were
wrong using the statistics from a nation that banned guns




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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23488314 - 07/29/16 05:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If the murder rate is the same before and after a gun ban, then what was the point? "Feel good" legislation?


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    #23488380 - 07/29/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Less accidents involving guns. It also means less guns are in the hands of suicidal people which makes it harder for them to commit suicide


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23488406 - 07/29/16 06:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:ilold: I'd rather get shot to death than stabbed to death. I'm also pretty sure guns aren't going to stop suicidal people, it's just going to make it unnecessarily harder for them.

It also doesn't matter if anyone claimed that it would lower overall crime rate or not, the fact of the matter is that it's pointless and stupid to do whether someone claimed it would do that or not. So your reply to pris was irrelevant.


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    #23488426 - 07/29/16 07:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I fail to see how making it harder for people to commit suicide is a bad thing


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    #23488430 - 07/29/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You're not making it harder for them to commit suicide :lol: you're making their methods of suicide harder.

Get rid of guns = getting rid of suicide

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    #23488432 - 07/29/16 07:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You're not making it harder for them to commit suicide :lol: you're making their methods of suicide harder.




Doesnt one lead to the other ? If you make their method of suicide harder to execute than theres a higher treshold before theyll actually do it.


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    #23488436 - 07/29/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Care to explain why then ?


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    #23488455 - 07/29/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not really, it should be self explanatory to anyone with common sense.

If a lack of guns is going to stop them from killing themselves, then they weren't planning on using the gun in the first place.


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    #23488458 - 07/29/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also, I don't know if you've noticed, but guns are legal in America and a lot of suicides are still unrelated to guns :cookiemonster:


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    #23488459 - 07/29/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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less gun crime. that doesnt mean less crime




Thats true but not relevant





it's quite relevant, just because you want to attribute an act with a weapon doesnt
mean that you're correct in doing so but even shroomism has proven that you were
wrong using the statistics from a nation that banned guns




The goal of gun bans is to reduce gun crime. Noone ever claimed it has any impact on the overall crimerate. Thats why its irrelevant





the goal of gun bans it to remove guns from the hands of civilians and strip them
of any means of resistance. those clamoring for a ban do not care about the crime
problem. in the US many of our homicides are self defense and self defense with a
gun doesnt always result in a death or even a shot being fired and yet lives are
saved through the use of a gun

now here's an example of what I'm talking about

in the UK, violent crimes are up nearly 20%
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12112024/Violent-crime-jumps-27-in-new-figures.html


in the UK there's a rise in homicides with both knives and guns
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/21/england-wales-homicides-rise-knife-gun-crime

let's look at germany with it's very restrictive gun laws

the most recent
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/europe/germany-munich-shooting/

just a few weeks before
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/europe/germany-cinema-attack/

just a few days ago
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1504729/gunman-opens-fire-in-berlin-hospital-and-kill-doctor/

that's 3 shootings in a months time, 1 was a mass shooting, one could have been a
mass shooting and one was only 2 deaths. 3 in a month from a place with heavy
restrictions on guns. how will you be explaining that reduction in gun crime?

what's germany's answer to these shooting? well, maybe banning a TV show is the correct answer
http://steamed.kotaku.com/pro-counter-strike-pulled-from-german-tv-in-the-wake-of-1784482040

were shootings in germany really such a common occurrence that restricting guns
has only brought it to this level, germans must have lived in constant fear of
being gunned down just checking the mail


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23488465 - 07/29/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I fail to see how making it harder for people to commit suicide is a bad thing




If someone wishes to die, there should be a safe method for them to do so.

Who the fuck are you to try and prevent them from carrying out their wish?


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23488466 - 07/29/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You're not making it harder for them to commit suicide :lol: you're making their methods of suicide harder.




Doesnt one lead to the other ? If you make their method of suicide harder to execute than theres a higher treshold before theyll actually do it.





clearly not, the US has nearly half a billion guns and yet with the heavy
restrictions on guns it seems that there are more suicides in europe in
countries where guns are very difficult to access

http://www.suicide.org/international-suicide-statistics.html


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23488469 - 07/29/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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howsyournaggerdoin said:
I fail to see how making it harder for people to commit suicide is a bad thing




If someone wishes to die, there should be a safe method for them to do so.

Who the fuck are you to try and prevent them from carrying out their wish?





germany has a rich history of preventing people from carrying out their wish, if you
recall back in the 1940s 11 million people wished to live but germans were not
having that so they killed those 11 million people so they couldnt live their dreams


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Re: This guy in Japan just killed 15 disabled people with a knife today [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #23488600 - 07/29/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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howsyournaggerdoin said:
I fail to see how making it harder for people to commit suicide is a bad thing




If someone wishes to die, there should be a safe method for them to do so.

Who the fuck are you to try and prevent them from carrying out their wish?




It's a trend, the same people who want to ban guns are the same people who want to control every other aspect of our lives as well, that's not a coincidence. It's about control, plain and simple


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