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White boletes found under birch tree.
    #23476079 - 07/25/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Habitat: Found growing under a birch tree near Florence, South Carolina.
Gills: Pores are olive-drab in color (possibly bolete mold?)
Stem: 22 mm in thickness on large specimen. Smooth on the young specimen but peeling on the larger one. No ring that I could see. White-cream color.
Cap: 81 mm in diameter on large specimen, white-ish cream color.
Spore print color: Attempted to, but failed, to get a spore print.
Bruising: Did not change color when bruised or broken.
Other information: Smelled like a typical mushroom when freshly picked, smelled foul on next day. Overall height 76 mm. There were two mushrooms attached at the base, with one very small one accompanying the larger one. Stem of the small one had a bulbous base. Another specimen was found growing near it under the same tree.
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Bolete Image 1
Bolete Image 2
Bolete Image 3

Any recommendations on edibility? I intend on photographing more specimens next weekend if possible.

I also found what I believe to be false chanterelles in the forested mountains of Tennessee. Can anyone confirm? They were growing in groups on the ground but were not tightly clustered.
False Chantarelles?


Edited by Kryptid (07/25/16 09:46 PM)


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Re: White boletes found under birch tree. [Re: Kryptid]
    #23477861 - 07/26/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Not sure about the species of bolete but what you're calling false chantarelles look a lot like Cantharellus cinnabarinus to me.


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Re: White boletes found under birch tree. [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
    #23478849 - 07/26/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Shoot! I got rid of them too! References online were saying that false chanterelles had thin stalks, flimsy caps and are darker in the center of the cap than around the edge. These had all those characters.


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Re: White boletes found under birch tree. [Re: Kryptid]
    #23487679 - 07/28/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This week I found a couple of more boletes (in a different city):

First One:
Habitat: Found growing beside a road near Columbia, South Carolina. Was found by itself on the ground.
Gills: Pores are olive-brown in color. Eaten up by insects.
Stem: 18 mm in thickness. No ring. Seemed to have some vertical ridges. Beige in color. Solid.
Cap: 95 mm in diameter at peak width, irregular in shape, smooth surface, medium brown in color.
Spore print color: Attempted to, but failed, to get a spore print. I seem to have trouble with this. Are you supposed to wet them first? Should I have printed it immediately? I waited hours after picking it before I tried to print it. I had cut it in half first, too.
Bruising: Blue-green.
Other information: Smelled like a typical mushroom. Overall height 65 mm. A lot of damage by bugs.
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Image 1
Image 2
Image 3
Image 4

Second One:
Habitat: Found growing beside a road near Columbia, South Carolina. Was found by itself on the ground. Was in a different place from the first one.
Gills: Pores are snow white in color.
Stem: 38 mm in thickness at peak. No ring. Fairly smooth surface. Cream-beige in color. Solid.
Cap: 50 mm in diameter. Partly eaten by insects. Smooth surface. Medium brown in color.
Spore print color: Attempted to, but failed, to get a spore print. I seem to have trouble with this. Are you supposed to wet them first? Should I have printed it immediately? I waited hours after picking it before I tried to print it. I had cut it in half first, too.
Bruising: This is tricky. When I found it, it appeared to have bruised a dark purple color in places where it had been eaten by insects (you can see this in the pictures). When I cut it in half, however, no bruising was present even a day later.
Other information: Smelled like a typical mushroom. Overall height 50 mm. Seemed to be a young specimen.
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Image 1
Image 2
Image 3

This weekend I plan on getting another specimen of the first species I posted in this thread. Hopefully, that will help in identification. Maybe I'll actually get a spore print this time.


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Re: White boletes found under birch tree. [Re: Kryptid]
    #23488450 - 07/29/16 07:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So boletes are ones I don't forage for very often because there's so many non-edible and poisonous species that look very much like the edible ones. If you don't know already any bolete that bruises blue is toxic.

The only bolete I've ever foraged and eaten was Strobilomyces strobilaceus, the old man of the woods. It's easily identified but unfortunately it wasn't that tasty.


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Re: White boletes found under birch tree. [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
    #23489918 - 07/29/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Psychedelic Pupil said:
So boletes are ones I don't forage for very often because there's so many non-edible and poisonous species that look very much like the edible ones. If you don't know already any bolete that bruises blue is toxic.

The only bolete I've ever foraged and eaten was Strobilomyces strobilaceus, the old man of the woods. It's easily identified but unfortunately it wasn't that tasty.



I guess you're more experienced than me, but this source here says that Cyanoboletus pulverulentus is a good edible and it stains blue.


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Re: White boletes found under birch tree. [Re: Kryptid]
    #23491615 - 07/30/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have no issue being corrected. As I said I'm not an expert on boletes by any means. I trust these rules from Micheal Kuo though,

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/threads/edibility-rules-for-boletes.293998/

It's always been my understanding that to accurately distinguish edible species that stain blue you'll need to do at least ammonia and KOH tests and likely spore features with your microscope. I've always found plenty of other edible species to forage for without having to go through that trouble.

I'd be interested to hear some other peoples experiences though. If there's other foragers here who collect any of the staining boletes. If there's some tricks to identifying them I'd like to hear them.


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Re: White boletes found under birch tree. [Re: Psychedelic Pupil]
    #23497005 - 07/31/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Psychedelic Pupil said:
I have no issue being corrected. As I said I'm not an expert on boletes by any means. I trust these rules from Micheal Kuo though,

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/threads/edibility-rules-for-boletes.293998/

It's always been my understanding that to accurately distinguish edible species that stain blue you'll need to do at least ammonia and KOH tests and likely spore features with your microscope. I've always found plenty of other edible species to forage for without having to go through that trouble.

I'd be interested to hear some other peoples experiences though. If there's other foragers here who collect any of the staining boletes. If there's some tricks to identifying them I'd like to hear them.



Sounds like good advice. I've seen those same criteria mirrored elsewhere. If I do find any more boletes, I'll avoid eating any blue-staining specimens, those with red or orange pores and those that have a bitter or otherwise unusual taste. Just to be safe, I'll start off with a very small piece and wait an hour to see if I have any negative reaction.


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Re: White boletes found under birch tree. [Re: Kryptid]
    #23497790 - 08/01/16 07:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you follow those rules you can eat boletes (in north america at least) and never get poisoned.

You will pass up some good edibles though.
Baorangia/Boletus bicolor,  Gyroporus cyanescens, Suillellus luridus, and some Leccinum species just to name a few.


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