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The video speaks for itself.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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have you not heard he is going to make america great again, he is a brilliant business man, latinos and the lgbt community love him!
it ins't like he is some narcissistic trust fund baby with zero ethics or morals.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
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I think he's a Russian Plant that posted that.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: The video speaks for itself.
Well, to note it's "paid for by Hillary for America". So if the expression 'put your money where your mouth is' happens to be accurate, then the video literally speaks for Hillary Clinton and her agenda. Just sayin'.
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Hillary's campaign might be pushing for its commercials, but the story is independently verifiable. Trump has a history of steamrolling and crushing his partners and employees when it comes time to pay. The American people will be treated no differently.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Hillary's campaign might be pushing for its commercials, but the story is independently verifiable. Trump has a history of steamrolling and crushing his partners and employees when it comes time to pay. The American people will be treated no differently.
That's how rich people stay rich. It's the poor people that tip at services, not the rich. The rich are to good to give. Unless it's for a political agenda that serves them. Which is paying for a service. But they don't pay if they don't feel the need.
Sorry for calling you a Russian plant. I didn't watch the vid at first.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Morel Guy]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Hillary's campaign might be pushing for its commercials, but the story is independently verifiable. Trump has a history of steamrolling and crushing his partners and employees when it comes time to pay. The American people will be treated no differently.
That's how rich people stay rich. It's the poor people that tip at services, not the rich. The rich are to good to give. Unless it's for a political agenda that serves them. Which is paying for a service. But they don't pay if they don't feel the need.
Sorry for calling you a Russian plant. I didn't watch the vid at first.
More poor people saying how bad the rich are. Everyone with money is a criminal, and the system is keeping me don
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I don't think rich people are bad. I think money allows expressing the wrong in people.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Hillary's campaign might be pushing for its commercials, but the story is independently verifiable. Trump has a history of steamrolling and crushing his partners and employees when it comes time to pay. The American people will be treated no differently.
Oh yes, he definitely does have a history ov shitting on people. Any potential president does by virtue ov their necessary non-virtue to get to that position. I was just addressing your "speaks for itself" quote in the context ov its hillary endorsement. It no longer speaks solely for itself when it's financially endorsed, no matter ov its truthfulness.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Hillary's campaign might be pushing for its commercials, but the story is independently verifiable. Trump has a history of steamrolling and crushing his partners and employees when it comes time to pay. The American people will be treated no differently.
His supporters love that shit. You and I don't think like them. They are enamoured with bullies. Have you not noticed the admiration they show for Putin as well? There is a brand of conservative that craves authoritarian leadership.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Hillary's campaign might be pushing for its commercials, but the story is independently verifiable. Trump has a history of steamrolling and crushing his partners and employees when it comes time to pay. The American people will be treated no differently.
His supporters love that shit. You and I don't think like them. They are enamoured with bullies. Have you not noticed the admiration they show for Putin as well? There is a brand of conservative that craves authoritarian leadership.
I just call them 'assholes' unfortunately there are many, and they have all of the guns
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
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Morel Guy said: I don't think rich people are bad. I think money allows expressing the wrong in people.
got an alternitive? money is just choice. money is good
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His supporters love that shit. You and I don't think like them. They are enamoured with bullies. Have you not noticed the admiration they show for Putin as well? There is a brand of conservative that craves authoritarian leadership.
So you toss classical liberals in with the puten supporters. Russia is terribloe in almost every way.
It isnt bullies. Not everyone who values not being pathetic likes bullies.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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Russia is awful. I have no idea why Trump and his supporters praise Putin. Do you?
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He is pretty masculine, and femininity and a gentle way doesnt work at al in reality
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Yall are talkin as if Clinton is any different 
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Yeah, because all Trump supporters are all the same and think just like one another
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Shroomopotamus]
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Either way the man praises his Russian counterpart while talking about withdrawing from your most important alliance. He's considering not defending NATO countries, and to compound that with his predatory nature, its madness to even consider him a viable candidate. Look at the way he muscles that old man out of what he owed him. Dragging a hardworking, honest man into a room full of his "advisors", in the building he designed. Scribbling on a hand drawn architectural diagram. While fucking him out of the majority of money he owed him. You think he's actually gonna be out for you? The little guy?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Yeah, because all Trump supporters are all the same and think just like one another 
I'd bet there are more Trump supporters that believe in angels than democrats.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Either way the man praises his Russian counterpart while talking about withdrawing from your most important alliance. He's considering not defending NATO countries, and to compound that with his predatory nature, its madness to even consider him a viable candidate. Look at the way he muscles that old man out of what he owed him. Dragging a hardworking, honest man into a room full of his "advisors", in the building he designed. Scribbling on a hand drawn architectural diagram. While fucking him out of the majority of money he owed him. You think he's actually gonna be out for you? The little guy?

"He's considering not defending NATO countries"
If they pay for the security, they will be defended with US blood, nothing should be free.
The US has over $19 trillion of Federal debt, we can NOT continue to for pay for NATO's defense budget, the freebies are over.
The corporate globalists make the US working class pay for this military budget when they're the one's benefiting from it, the US taxpayer agrees with Trump on this issue, that's why he's going to win a land-side election.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Either way the man praises his Russian counterpart while talking about withdrawing from your most important alliance. He's considering not defending NATO countries, and to compound that with his predatory nature, its madness to even consider him a viable candidate. Look at the way he muscles that old man out of what he owed him. Dragging a hardworking, honest man into a room full of his "advisors", in the building he designed. Scribbling on a hand drawn architectural diagram. While fucking him out of the majority of money he owed him. You think he's actually gonna be out for you? The little guy?

"He's considering not defending NATO countries"
If they pay for the security, they will be defended with US blood, nothing should be free.
The US has over $19 trillion of Federal debt, we can NOT continue to for pay for NATO's defense budget, the freebies are over.
The corporate globalists make the US working class pay for this military budget when they're the one's benefiting from it, the US taxpayer agrees with Trump on this issue, that's why he's going to win a land-side election.
I have read that most of that debt is to the American people.
I guess you can have your politics or you can have your winning strategy. I haven't seen a shred of military genius within Trump.
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Morel Guy said:
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qman said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Either way the man praises his Russian counterpart while talking about withdrawing from your most important alliance. He's considering not defending NATO countries, and to compound that with his predatory nature, its madness to even consider him a viable candidate. Look at the way he muscles that old man out of what he owed him. Dragging a hardworking, honest man into a room full of his "advisors", in the building he designed. Scribbling on a hand drawn architectural diagram. While fucking him out of the majority of money he owed him. You think he's actually gonna be out for you? The little guy?

"He's considering not defending NATO countries"
If they pay for the security, they will be defended with US blood, nothing should be free.
The US has over $19 trillion of Federal debt, we can NOT continue to for pay for NATO's defense budget, the freebies are over.
The corporate globalists make the US working class pay for this military budget when they're the one's benefiting from it, the US taxpayer agrees with Trump on this issue, that's why he's going to win a land-side election.
I have read that most of that debt is to the American people.
I guess you can have your politics or you can have your winning strategy. I haven't seen a shred of military genius within Trump.
It doesn't matter who holds US bonds, the debt is a real issue for the US and we can't afford anything like defending the EU and huge parts of Asia.
Trump is bringing up a serious economic issue with this stupid military spending, liberals used to preach that excess military spending was for harmful for everyone, now they don't say anything about it.
What is wrong with these countries paying for their own military defense, why do US taxpayers have to pay for it? We're broke with a credit card that doesn't work anymore.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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sounds like capitalism, isnt that cut throat mentality what the US is best at? Lets be honest here, this guy sounds like he is a retard for doing work without contracts/down payments.
That being said, everyone knows the power at be has already chosen Hillary as the next leader. Pointless to even talk about this.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
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If you stop defending them, who will they turn to? If your trade economy takes a major hit because countries shift their focus from America to Russia financially you begin to lose out. Money depreciates, jobs die out and the economy contracts. The aid isnt charity. It keeps your economy running.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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It has to do with where armed fronts could occur. You lose a little bit you risk losing more. Those countries are too damn small to defend themselves. They need a big brother to stand guard for them.
I don't know enough to really get into a debate about the economics of warfare.
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Ya ya ya Asante knows everybody, but actually my father (who is a sailor) knows someone who had his entire shipyard go bankrupt because the good mr Trump had a super extravagant yacht built and then with the thing half built, declared bankruptcy and defaulted.
So yes, I recognize the modus operandi so I think the guy speaks truth.
This is also the same kind of stuff Zappaisgod accused him of.
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Asante said: Ya ya ya Asante knows everybody, but actually my father (who is a sailor) knows someone who had his entire shipyard go bankrupt because the good mr Trump had a super extravagant yacht built and then with the thing half built, declared bankruptcy and defaulted.
So yes, I recognize the modus operandi so I think the guy speaks truth.
This is also the same kind of stuff Zappaisgod accused him of.
Mabye America can declare bankruptcy with Turmp.
Just start all over again and build a different yacht.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Morel Guy]
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Actually if he did that, and he might well, he'd actually end up saving America from under its crushing debt.
The guy is an asshole, but he does have the guts to crash the system nd someday soon you need a president to do that because a controlled crash is ten times better than a spontaneous disaster.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: If you stop defending them, who will they turn to? If your trade economy takes a major hit because countries shift their focus from America to Russia financially you begin to lose out. Money depreciates, jobs die out and the economy contracts. The aid isnt charity. It keeps your economy running.
"The aid isn't charity"
They need to pay for their defense, maybe the countries in the EU and Asia should reallocate how they spend their budgets.
Are you suggesting they can't afford it?
"It keeps your economy running"
Paying the military bills for others? No, it doesn't. We can't afford it, we're broke.
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Asante said: Actually if he did that, and he might well, he'd actually end up saving America from under its crushing debt.
The guy is an asshole, but he does have the guts to crash the system nd someday soon you need a president to do that because a controlled crash is ten times better than a spontaneous disaster.
The debt will have to be dealt with one day or another, if Trump wants to be the bad guy and starts pushing for that outcome, so be it.
Who knows, maybe the elites want that very scenario.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Morel Guy]
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Does debt really mean anything? Is it bad to be 20, 40, or 100 TRILLION in debt? The debt, regardless of who it's owed to, has been getting much bigger under every president since Reagan.
So what's the solution?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Right now he's like 5% ahead of Clinton.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Morel Guy]
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Sanctions would be placed on America. Countries who they defaulted with would begin looking for other sources of security, trade would take a serious blow and its people would be faced with a major depression. A lasting one. It still hasnt recovered from the 08 crisis fully, and its minor in comparison to the impact of a default. A significant portion of investors would simply close shop and bolt. You would feel the blow financially.
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hostileuniverse said: Does debt really mean anything? Is it bad to be 20, 40, or 100 TRILLION in debt? The debt, regardless of who it's owed to, has been getting much bigger under every president since Reagan.
So what's the solution?
Every country in the developed world has a massive debt problem, it can never be paid back, one day it will be everything and there's no escaping it.
It's not the end of the world, but it will be a different world.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Sanctions would be placed on America. Countries who they defaulted with would begin looking for other sources of security, trade would take a serious blow and its people would be faced with a major depression. A lasting one. It still hasnt recovered from the 08 crisis fully, and its minor in comparison to the impact of a default. A significant portion of investors would simply close shop and bolt. You would feel the blow financially.
We are broke, bonds are defaulted on via currency devaluation every year in the global economy, shit happens.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: Does debt really mean anything? Is it bad to be 20, 40, or 100 TRILLION in debt? The debt, regardless of who it's owed to, has been getting much bigger under every president since Reagan.
So what's the solution?
Legalization of drugs could certainly help
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There is no controlled crashing in the space program, not that one will survive it.
Countries don't crash well when the world is dependent on them. The best thing to do would be to maintain world peace and do it cheaply. While building an economy that can be trusted.
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So what's the solution?
Legalization of drugs could certainly help 
It's a hard balance of consequences. You can only be strong out for so long a perform so well. Can't be a nation of stoned couch potatoes hogging the wifi all day and call it a viable economy.
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Morel Guy said: There is no controlled crashing in the space program, not that one will survive it.
Countries don't crash well when the world is dependent on them. The best thing to do would be to maintain world peace and do it cheaply. While building an economy that can be trusted.
Exactly. This decision has immediate and long lasting personal repercussions. Land grabs are already happening. A sudden policy shift from imperialism to inaction would trigger wars. Whats going to happen to little old Isreal? America Armed the saudis to the teeth, what are they gonna do when theyre cut loose? Several of the countries over there have nuclear weapons. Turkey almost underwent a military coup. Theres a cash of variable payload nuclear bombs within the countries borders. Russias already annexing countries, and so is China. Troops are being massed at the borders. Suddenly having the key NATO player walk out of this is ridiculous. That vacuum would be immense.
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Sounds like you're stressing up there in Canada, are you afraid the big bad US won't defend Canadians from the coming polar bear invasion?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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He obviously wants to make sure the US will be able to defend his ass when the time comes.
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Countries don't crash well when the world is dependent on them. The best thing to do would be to maintain world peace and do it cheaply. While building an economy that can be trusted.
Exactly. This decision has immediate and long lasting personal repercussions. Land grabs are already happening. A sudden policy shift from imperialism to inaction would trigger wars. Whats going to happen to little old Isreal? America Armed the saudis to the teeth, what are they gonna do when theyre cut loose? Several of the countries over there have nuclear weapons. Turkey almost underwent a military coup. Theres a cash of variable payload nuclear bombs within the countries borders. Russias already annexing countries, and so is China. Troops are being massed at the borders. Suddenly having the key NATO player walk out of this is ridiculous. That vacuum would be immense.
Ah yes the very famous nuclear implosion theory. It all goes to shit like a game of Jenga. Who will be the lucky loser that pulls out that magnificent piece of wood.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
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America would always defend them weak pathetic Canadians, as sure as we'd defend Mexico from invasion, just as sure as we "defended" Cuba from one
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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I don't have anything against Trump but I just dont trust him
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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It comes down to who you would rather work for. They are not going to implicitly work for you.
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Is there ANY politician you trust?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
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He obviously wants to make sure the US will be able to defend his ass when the time comes.
You should be worried about your own security. This isnt a wise decision.
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Is there ANY politician you trust?
Are there any dogs that are in the political game? I trust some dogs. I know your not asking me.
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He obviously wants to make sure the US will be able to defend his ass when the time comes.
You should be worried about your own security.
I am, that's why the US is going to start deporting people, banning others from entering, building a wall, and start enforcing our immigration laws.
At the same time, we're going to stop providing security for free, time to start paying up Canadian!
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
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We're eachothers largest trading partners. You wont be going anywhere anytime soon.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
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ReposadoXochipilli said: have you not heard he is going to make america great again, he is a brilliant business man, latinos and the lgbt community love him!
it ins't like he is some narcissistic trust fund baby with zero ethics or morals.
No not at all
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He obviously wants to make sure the US will be able to defend his ass when the time comes.
You should be worried about your own security.
I am, that's why the US is going to start deporting people, banning others from entering, building a wall, and start enforcing our immigration laws.
At the same time, we're going to stop providing security for free, time to start paying up Canadian! 
Exactly, let's worry about our own security, of course it don't help Canada is importing Muslims as fast as they can,
Don't worry Canadians, America will always take care of you
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So yes, I recognize the modus operandi so I think the guy speaks truth.
This is also the same kind of stuff Zappaisgod accused him of.
It's plainly obvious what kind of character Trump is. Frankly I'm less worried about his ideas and more worried about his competence. He's one of those people that is so ignorant, he's ignorant of his own ignorance.
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It's a treaty obligation. To undo it will require a super majority of the senate.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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You're more of a worry, then a comfort. Watching your country implode from afar in one of the most blatantly corrupt elections I've ever witnessed is unsettling.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
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So yes, I recognize the modus operandi so I think the guy speaks truth.
This is also the same kind of stuff Zappaisgod accused him of.
It's plainly obvious what kind of character Trump is. Frankly I'm less worried about his ideas and more worried about his competence. He's one of those people that is so ignorant, he's ignorant of his own ignorance.
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It's a treaty obligation. To undo it will require a super majority of the senate.
What about his fuck ass children? Do you find them to be more competent?
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So what's the solution?
Legalization of drugs could certainly help 
It's a hard balance of consequences. You can only be strong out for so long a perform so well. Can't be a nation of stoned couch potatoes hogging the wifi all day and call it a viable economy.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: imachavel]
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They seem to be more competent. Apparently they offered Kasich the VP slot saying he could be in charge of policy. I think trump really wants to be a figurehead. I don't think he has much interest in the day to day business of governance. That's the way he operates. He has business with his name in gold letters, but he's not really involved in the day to day operations. I think he loses interest once the deal is done.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: imachavel]
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Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
That's the narrative, but it's total fiction. The US has emerged from the recession as the strongest economy in the world. The stock market is at an all time high. Crime is essentially lower than it has been since te 60s. Real wages are finally rising again. We are at near full employment. Net illegal immigration is directed south, not north. Trump is selling a lie.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
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Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
I wish I could get a cut of that cheese please!
That's the narrative, but it's total fiction. The US has emerged from the recession as the strongest economy in the world. The stock market is at an all time high. Crime is essentially lower than it has been since te 60s. Real wages are finally rising again. We are at near full employment. Net illegal immigration is directed south, not north. Trump is selling a lie.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: You're more of a worry, then a comfort. Watching your country implode from afar in one of the most blatantly corrupt elections I've ever witnessed is unsettling.
Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
That's the narrative, but it's total fiction. The US has emerged from the recession as the strongest economy in the world. The stock market is at an all time high. Crime is essentially lower than it has been since te 60s. Real wages are finally rising again. We are at near full employment. Net illegal immigration is directed south, not north. Trump is selling a lie.
Yeah, 1.1% GDP growth is so great as consumer and business spending start declining. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-gdp-growth-in-first-quarter-revised-up-to-1-1-rate-1467117151
The US economy is so strong that the Fed can't even hike interest rates from 0% for the past 8 years, a completely unprecedented monetary event.
We have 50 million on food stamps, 94 million working eligible US citizens are NOT working, we have the lowest worker participation rate in 40 years, we have the lowest home ownership rate in over 30 years, we have high rents, we have no wage growth in 15 years!!
Should I also mention the US debt has doubled to $20 trillion the past 8 years?
We also have the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years as the rich get even richer, it's been an economic disaster, why do you think Bernie and Trump supporters are the main theme of this election?
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Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
That's the narrative, but it's total fiction. The US has emerged from the recession as the strongest economy in the world. The stock market is at an all time high. Crime is essentially lower than it has been since te 60s. Real wages are finally rising again. We are at near full employment. Net illegal immigration is directed south, not north. Trump is selling a lie.
Yeah, 1.1% GDP growth is so great as consumer and business spending start declining. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-gdp-growth-in-first-quarter-revised-up-to-1-1-rate-1467117151
The US economy is so strong that the Fed can't even hike interest rates from 0% for the past 8 years, a completely unprecedented monetary event.
We have 50 million on food stamps, 94 million working eligible US citizens are NOT working, we have the lowest worker participation rate in 40 years, we have the lowest home ownership rate in over 30 years, we have high rents, we have no wage growth in 15 years!!
Should I also mention the US debt has doubled to $20 trillion the past 8 years?
We also have the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years as the rich get even richer, it's been an economic disaster, why do you think Bernie and Trump supporters are the main theme of this election?
I get that. I want some of the cheese!
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Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
That's the narrative, but it's total fiction. The US has emerged from the recession as the strongest economy in the world. The stock market is at an all time high. Crime is essentially lower than it has been since te 60s. Real wages are finally rising again. We are at near full employment. Net illegal immigration is directed south, not north. Trump is selling a lie.
Yeah, 1.1% GDP growth is so great as consumer and business spending start declining. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-gdp-growth-in-first-quarter-revised-up-to-1-1-rate-1467117151
The US economy is so strong that the Fed can't even hike interest rates from 0% for the past 8 years, a completely unprecedented monetary event.
We have 50 million on food stamps, 94 million working eligible US citizens are NOT working, we have the lowest worker participation rate in 40 years, we have the lowest home ownership rate in over 30 years, we have high rents, we have no wage growth in 15 years!!
Should I also mention the US debt has doubled to $20 trillion the past 8 years?
We also have the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years as the rich get even richer, it's been an economic disaster, why do you think Bernie and Trump supporters are the main theme of this election?
94 million working eligible US citizens are not working? How the fuck did you get that number? Sounds like you're including everyone over the age of 16 like the participation number. Most 80 year olds aren't interested in working anymore.
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My 83 year old grandma would,like to work but things change too much for her. Grandpa cannot stop working for free. In their off time they enjoy the clockwork orange version of fox news.
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Please provide proof of the 94 million 80 year olds in the US, thanks
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it ins't like he is some narcissistic trust fund baby with zero ethics or morals.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
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Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
That's the narrative, but it's total fiction. The US has emerged from the recession as the strongest economy in the world. The stock market is at an all time high. Crime is essentially lower than it has been since te 60s. Real wages are finally rising again. We are at near full employment. Net illegal immigration is directed south, not north. Trump is selling a lie.
Yeah, 1.1% GDP growth is so great as consumer and business spending start declining. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-gdp-growth-in-first-quarter-revised-up-to-1-1-rate-1467117151
The US economy is so strong that the Fed can't even hike interest rates from 0% for the past 8 years, a completely unprecedented monetary event.
We have 50 million on food stamps, 94 million working eligible US citizens are NOT working, we have the lowest worker participation rate in 40 years, we have the lowest home ownership rate in over 30 years, we have high rents, we have no wage growth in 15 years!!
Should I also mention the US debt has doubled to $20 trillion the past 8 years?
We also have the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years as the rich get even richer, it's been an economic disaster, why do you think Bernie and Trump supporters are the main theme of this election?
94 million working eligible US citizens are not working? How the fuck did you get that number? Sounds like you're including everyone over the age of 16 like the participation number. Most 80 year olds aren't interested in working anymore. 
You know very well that's based on ages 16 to 65. We could minus 25 million based on school and early retirement, but what about the other 70 million not working?
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I also wonder why there are so many on assistance. I think work has damaged people. Too many wars to much bullshit.
How many years can someonemine coal? Or work dangerous jobs, or drink to deal with the bullshit cause Paxil ain't cutting it.
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How many years can someonemine coal? Or work dangerous jobs, or drink to deal with the bullshit cause Paxil ain't cutting it.
I don't know what you're talking about, Koods insists we are living in an economic utopia.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Morel Guy]
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Just wait until Trump is elected, then progressives will finally admit the economy is in the shitter, and of course, they'll still blame Bush
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Your question is stupid.
I'd like qman to explain why he thinks there are 94 million working eligible people in the US who aren't working.
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You know very well that's based on ages 16 to 65. We could minus 25 million based on school and early retirement, but what about the other 70 million not working?
No I don't know that. I'm assuming you get that number from the participation rate data. The participation rate includes EVERYONE over the age of 16 - there is no upper limit.
This is easy to prove to you:
There are 151 million people employed in the US, and the population of people between the ages of 18-64 is 194 million. That leaves 43 million people in the traditional working age group who aren't employees (already you have a problem). We have to assume some of them are raising children or in school. Let's use your number of 25 million, Apparently qman believes that at least 76 million retirees , stay at home parents, and children should be working and they are not.
http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/employed-persons
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23476807 - 07/25/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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We will be after trump right lol
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23476840 - 07/25/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Just wait until Trump is elected, then progressives will finally admit the economy is in the shitter, and of course, they'll still blame Bush 
You're completely ignoring the fact that the economy is not in the shitter. Could it be better? Yes. But it's outperforming the rest of the world and it's drastically improved in the past 8 years. If your personal economy is not doing well, that's a problem with you.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS15000000
Yes, 94 million over 16 are not working.
http://jobenomicsblog.com/tag/bureau-of-labor-statistics/
Yeah, the non-working eligible population has been growing.
Oh yeah, senior citizens in the workforce is also growing on a percentage basis, so much for the early retirement theory.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/07/number-of-older-americans-in-the-workforce-is-on-the-rise/
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
#23476896 - 07/25/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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And defaulting on your national debt will somehow correct this?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
#23476900 - 07/25/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Must be all those "stay at home moms"
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23476901 - 07/25/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who said anything about defaulting on our debt?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23476912 - 07/25/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its Trumps MO when it comes to any sort of serious business matter. Watch him bankrupt you guys by throwing massive parades that have his image plastered everywhere and telling the companies he owes to shove it.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: And defaulting on your national debt will somehow correct this?
Has it every occurred to you that the credit cycle has been destroyed since 2008? https://www.janus.com/insights/bill-gross-investment-outlook When the private sector isn't providing any economic growth, it's up to the government to fill the void with fiscal policy. How in the world can Obama, Clinton, or Trump stimulate the economy with fiscal policy when debt to GDP is over 100%? They can't.
How do you define "defaulting on your national debt"? Is it printing money to buy US bonds? Is it currency devaluation? Is it missing an interest payment?
Japan has debt to GDP of over 200%, the Bank of Japan owns 40% of Japan bonds buying it with printed money, that's a default on debt, yet no one has said Japan has defaulted on its debt.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23476945 - 07/25/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh, so some retarded architect doesnt understand that he can sue for the money and he can also place a lien on the property, I mean I'm not some big money architect but I do know that I can lien a property if I'm not paid what's due to me and if the money isnt paid I can start foreclosure proceedings which would then make me the owner of the property for a tiny fraction of the cost it took to build it
now here's a question, why didnt this guy go with the industry standard of getting paid half up front and collecting the remaining balance on completion?
is this guy stupid?
does this guy think we're stupid?
"oh, but I was bullied by trump..."
apparently some people are stupid
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
#23476956 - 07/25/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Just wait until Trump is elected, then progressives will finally admit the economy is in the shitter, and of course, they'll still blame Bush 
You're completely ignoring the fact that the economy is not in the shitter. Could it be better? Yes. But it's outperforming the rest of the world and it's drastically improved in the past 8 years. If your personal economy is not doing well, that's a problem with you.
artificially inflating figures through quantitative easing isnt improving the economy, it's actually harming it and guess what's happening
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/28/this-real-estate-market-is-about-to-crash-commentary.html
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23477122 - 07/25/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Its Trumps MO when it comes to any sort of serious business matter. Watch him bankrupt you guys by throwing massive parades that have his image plastered everywhere and telling the companies he owes to shove it.
Can you cite where he said we shoud default, I can't find it anywhere
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
#23477453 - 07/26/16 01:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS15000000
Yes, 94 million over 16 are not working.
http://jobenomicsblog.com/tag/bureau-of-labor-statistics/
Yeah, the non-working eligible population has been growing.
Oh yeah, senior citizens in the workforce is also growing on a percentage basis, so much for the early retirement theory.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/07/number-of-older-americans-in-the-workforce-is-on-the-rise/
Because there are more senior citizens as a percentage of the population. There are more that are working and more that are retired. That's how a population bubble works. Jesus you are terrible with numbers 
You keep including people over 65 as "eligible" to work. Technically they are eligible to work, but they usually don't want to- they are retired You still haven't explained why you think all these old People are lazy for not working.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Its Trumps MO when it comes to any sort of serious business matter. Watch him bankrupt you guys by throwing massive parades that have his image plastered everywhere and telling the companies he owes to shove it.
Can you cite where he said we shoud default, I can't find it anywhere 
That's his business model.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
#23477765 - 07/26/16 05:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So it's just a made up talking point? Got it
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
#23477973 - 07/26/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, 94 million over 16 are not working.
http://jobenomicsblog.com/tag/bureau-of-labor-statistics/
Yeah, the non-working eligible population has been growing.
Oh yeah, senior citizens in the workforce is also growing on a percentage basis, so much for the early retirement theory.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/07/number-of-older-americans-in-the-workforce-is-on-the-rise/
Because there are more senior citizens as a percentage of the population. There are more that are working and more that are retired. That's how a population bubble works. Jesus you are terrible with numbers 
You keep including people over 65 as "eligible" to work. Technically they are eligible to work, but they usually don't want to- they are retired You still haven't explained why you think all these old People are lazy for not working.
false. you keep spreading this nonsense when the reality of it is that people at retirement age are remaining in the workforce longer and these numbers do not include retirees. it is working age people. but hey, if those that are over 65 are largely staying in the work force, then doesnt that mean that not only are you wrong but that the numbers are again inflated.
it's as if liberals will repeat anything they're told to repeat and wont actually think for themselves, it's no wonder they want bigger government to run their lives
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
#23477976 - 07/26/16 08:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Can you cite where he said we shoud default, I can't find it anywhere 
That's his business model.
how many hotels and office buildings did you say that you owned?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23478000 - 07/26/16 08:17 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So Pris, you're gonna be voting Trump after all right?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
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Yes, 94 million over 16 are not working.
http://jobenomicsblog.com/tag/bureau-of-labor-statistics/
Yeah, the non-working eligible population has been growing.
Oh yeah, senior citizens in the workforce is also growing on a percentage basis, so much for the early retirement theory.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/07/number-of-older-americans-in-the-workforce-is-on-the-rise/
Because there are more senior citizens as a percentage of the population. There are more that are working and more that are retired. That's how a population bubble works. Jesus you are terrible with numbers 
You keep including people over 65 as "eligible" to work. Technically they are eligible to work, but they usually don't want to- they are retired You still haven't explained why you think all these old People are lazy for not working.
The PERCENTAGE of senior citizens that are working has increased, that has nothing to do with there being more senior citizens. Jesus you are terrible with numbers or you were too lazy to open up my link.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/07/number-of-older-americans-in-the-workforce-is-on-the-rise/
"By 2022, the agency (BLS) projects that 31.9% of those ages 65 to 74 will still be working. That compares with 20.4% of the same age bracket in the workforce in 2002 and 26.8% who were in the workforce in 2012."
So we have more people in the 65 to 74 range working, but we also see the 25 to 54 bracket dropping, that's not a good sign for employment.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Prisoner#1]
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qman said: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS15000000
Yes, 94 million over 16 are not working.
http://jobenomicsblog.com/tag/bureau-of-labor-statistics/
Yeah, the non-working eligible population has been growing.
Oh yeah, senior citizens in the workforce is also growing on a percentage basis, so much for the early retirement theory.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/07/number-of-older-americans-in-the-workforce-is-on-the-rise/
Because there are more senior citizens as a percentage of the population. There are more that are working and more that are retired. That's how a population bubble works. Jesus you are terrible with numbers 
You keep including people over 65 as "eligible" to work. Technically they are eligible to work, but they usually don't want to- they are retired You still haven't explained why you think all these old People are lazy for not working.
false. you keep spreading this nonsense when the reality of it is that people at retirement age are remaining in the workforce longer and these numbers do not include retirees. it is working age people.
The participation rate includes everyone 16 and older. If you're 95 years old, you are included in that figure. Do you know this or not?
This is from the BLS link that qman provided:
Series Id: LNS15000000 Seasonally Adjusted Series title: (Seas) Not in Labor Force Labor force status: Not in labor force Type of data: Number in thousands Age: 16 years and over
I've already given the numbers. There are 194 million people between the ages of 18 and 64. There are 151 million employeed peope. That means there are only 43 million "working age" people without jobs. The 94 million "can work but aren't" figure is the number of people over the age of 16 who aren't working. This includes students, stay at home parents, and retired people.
Lower participation rates for younger people are mainly due to increased enrollment in higher education.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
#23478236 - 07/26/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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People who can only find pastime jobs are still considered "employed"
Welfare use has soared under Obama, clearly, this is a sign of roaring economy
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Patlal]
#23478238 - 07/26/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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have I ever revealed who I have voted for?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: People who can only find pastime jobs are still considered "employed"
Welfare use has soared under Obama, clearly, this is a sign of roaring economy

koods is under the impression that the BLS calls random houses and asks people if they have a job and that's how they determine the unemployment rates, so clearly when the unemployment rate is low it means that those 50,000 people they called were an accurate representation of who is working and who isnt, it's probably why we see all those homeless people playing candy crush and posting on instagram
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said: People who can only find pastime jobs are still considered "employed"
Welfare use has soared under Obama, clearly, this is a sign of roaring economy
What group of people went economically downhill under Obama?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tavis-smiley-obama-black-wealth_us_569820dbe4b0ce496423f053
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433222/black-americans-barack-obama-going-backwards-under-president-Obama
White liberals like Koods don't really give a shit about blacks and Hispanics under Obama, as long as his 401k is going higher, all is good in the US economy.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Welfare use has soared under Obama, clearly, this is a sign of roaring economy

koods is under the impression that the BLS calls random houses and asks people if they have a job and that's how they determine the unemployment rates, so clearly when the unemployment rate is low it means that those 50,000 people they called were an accurate representation of who is working and who isnt,
The BLS randomly samples 60,000 people to get the unemployment number. It's called statistical analysis, and people go to school for years to learn how to do it properly. Did you even graduate high school? Have you ever taken a statistics course?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: koods]
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
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Welfare use has soared under Obama, clearly, this is a sign of roaring economy
What group of people went economically downhill under Obama?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tavis-smiley-obama-black-wealth_us_569820dbe4b0ce496423f053
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433222/black-americans-barack-obama-going-backwards-under-president-Obama
White liberals like Koods don't really give a shit about blacks and Hispanics under Obama, as long as his 401k is going higher, all is good in the US economy.
It's so obvious, under bush when the stock market was doing well, all we heard was the rich are getting richer and banks and Wall Street and blah blah blah
Now all the sudden, the stock market is a great indicator of how well the economy is doing
Anyone with half a brain can see what partisan hacks do with similar numbers depending on who is office
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: qman]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: You're more of a worry, then a comfort. Watching your country implode from afar in one of the most blatantly corrupt elections I've ever witnessed is unsettling.
Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
That's the narrative, but it's total fiction. The US has emerged from the recession as the strongest economy in the world. The stock market is at an all time high. Crime is essentially lower than it has been since te 60s. Real wages are finally rising again. We are at near full employment. Net illegal immigration is directed south, not north. Trump is selling a lie.
Yeah, 1.1% GDP growth is so great as consumer and business spending start declining. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-gdp-growth-in-first-quarter-revised-up-to-1-1-rate-1467117151
The US economy is so strong that the Fed can't even hike interest rates from 0% for the past 8 years, a completely unprecedented monetary event.
We have 50 million on food stamps, 94 million working eligible US citizens are NOT working, we have the lowest worker participation rate in 40 years, we have the lowest home ownership rate in over 30 years, we have high rents, we have no wage growth in 15 years!!
Should I also mention the US debt has doubled to $20 trillion the past 8 years?
We also have the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years as the rich get even richer, it's been an economic disaster, why do you think Bernie and Trump supporters are the main theme of this election?
Yeah but, as far as investors are concerned this is a great market for growth, even if the government is doing for shit right now, the world is floating as far as it looks from the point of view of America.
Losses right now aren't as bad as gains. It seems that real estate is tough for a buyer but great for a seller. The bottom line is the market is selling. Whatever Obama did wrong that impeded us from doing better at this point, no one else is going to do much better. Our economy doesn't need more regulation to undoe the left's policies. It needs no more new policies. Enough lawsuits, just let things go without more government and people will work it out, and if they can't then they never were going to anyway
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: imachavel]
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Why is this country imploding? The last president was just as bad as any of these fucks and hey look, our economy is more well driven then ever before.
I think what you mean to say "from my point of view, it certainly looks like it's imploding." It does appear so huh? No way though, we are doing better then ever.
That's the narrative, but it's total fiction. The US has emerged from the recession as the strongest economy in the world. The stock market is at an all time high. Crime is essentially lower than it has been since te 60s. Real wages are finally rising again. We are at near full employment. Net illegal immigration is directed south, not north. Trump is selling a lie.
Yeah, 1.1% GDP growth is so great as consumer and business spending start declining. http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-gdp-growth-in-first-quarter-revised-up-to-1-1-rate-1467117151
The US economy is so strong that the Fed can't even hike interest rates from 0% for the past 8 years, a completely unprecedented monetary event.
We have 50 million on food stamps, 94 million working eligible US citizens are NOT working, we have the lowest worker participation rate in 40 years, we have the lowest home ownership rate in over 30 years, we have high rents, we have no wage growth in 15 years!!
Should I also mention the US debt has doubled to $20 trillion the past 8 years?
We also have the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years as the rich get even richer, it's been an economic disaster, why do you think Bernie and Trump supporters are the main theme of this election?
Yeah but, as far as investors are concerned this is a great market for growth, even if the government is doing for shit right now, the world is floating as far as it looks from the point of view of America.
Losses right now aren't as bad as gains. It seems that real estate is tough for a buyer but great for a seller. The bottom line is the market is selling. Whatever Obama did wrong that impeded us from doing better at this point, no one else is going to do much better. Our economy doesn't need more regulation to undoe the left's policies. It needs no more new policies. Enough lawsuits, just let things go without more government and people will work it out, and if they can't then they never were going to anyway
Investors love this low growth/low inflation environment, they like low wages with no growth and high profit margins, but the problem down the road for investors is the concern of where is demand going to come from? They are strangling their consumers!!
Trump is going to let the floodgates open and get jobs/wages growth at a high pace, that's going to cause stronger demand and inflation, the boys on Wall Street do NOT want to see that outcome.
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Welfare use has soared under Obama, clearly, this is a sign of roaring economy

koods is under the impression that the BLS calls random houses and asks people if they have a job and that's how they determine the unemployment rates, so clearly when the unemployment rate is low it means that those 50,000 people they called were an accurate representation of who is working and who isnt,
The BLS randomly samples 60,000 people to get the unemployment number. It's called statistical analysis, and people go to school for years to learn how to do it properly. Did you even graduate high school? Have you ever taken a statistics course?
how did you say that sampling was done? was it by 'checking the oil'?
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> towards your original reply to me
Then it was going to happen anyway. How could Trump make any of these issues any worst? If people ruin the economy with greed what is a "good president" going to fix?
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I think the biggest lie Trump is saying or not saying at all is that he says he won't make changes to social security. Secretly he has told people that he will cut social security all together. At the minimum he has spoke to people about major cuts. As a rich guy he doesn't require social security and surely hates paying into the program. Lot's of people would be stupid to vote for Trump as they rely on social security. I have no idea what older people or disabled people would do with cuts. It's not like anybody is getting rich with a social security payment. It's poverty.
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You have no proof of this, lying about the trump platform is just that, lying, and nobody likes a liar, that's why Hilary's numbers are so low
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Proof is in all his personal failures and his willingness to ruthlessly fuck people over to get what he wants. You're being conned. You're not part of his cadre, you never will be and you certainly wont be one of the people he's looking out for when he gets into office.
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http://www.aol.com/article/2016/05/30/trump-reportedly-wants-to-cut-social-security-but-wont-admi/21386056/
It's not a lie, it's a report. Trump switches what he's saying so much it's hard to predict.
Grandma and grandpa are going to need a bumper crop!
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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It's pathetic how many people are actually gonna be voting for him
Like it's no secret that the man is a fucking snake in the grass, a con-artist extraordinaire of the highest caliber, but sure, let's put him in the highest office of the US government and see how it turns out
Of course it's not like the government even gave the people a choice in the matter.. Bad or worse, that's all this election is gonna turn out to be and it's fucking disgraceful
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Everytime I hear someone say they support either of them I die a little inside. Your citizens should be storming the white house and demanding someone who is fit for the job instead of rolling over and choosing the lesser of two evils. The elections already embroiled in scandal after scandal. Its ridiculous. Worse than reality TV.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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It's because most of our citizens are blind, helpless sheep
They don't care who the shepherd turns out to be, they just know that they need to pick one
I for one have lost faith in this country and am predicting a downward spiral over the next few years
Actually I don't even have to predict that because it has already begun
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Unlike you libs, I don't want a president to "take care of me" I want one who loves this country and will provide the best course for us all, not just for a few chosen groups of protected class citizens.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Trump doesn't love this country lol, he comes from a family of immigrants for fuck's sake
The only thing he really loves is this
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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We all come from immigrants, even Indians, they crossed the land bridge.
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Unlike you libs, I don't want a president to "take care of me" I want one who loves this country and will provide the best course for us all, not just for a few chosen groups of protected class citizens.
Have you watched the video in the original post?
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It's not a lie, it's a report. Trump switches what he's saying so much it's hard to predict.
Grandma and grandpa are going to need a bumper crop!
Obama tried to cut social security
obamacare made cuts to medicare
so tell us, what makes them different?
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It's not a lie, it's a report. Trump switches what he's saying so much it's hard to predict.
Grandma and grandpa are going to need a bumper crop!
Obama tried to cut social security
obamacare made cuts to medicare
so tell us, what makes them different?
Obama is a black democrat, that makes him untouchable
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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what makes obama untouchable is that he's part of the clinton crime syndicate
a secret service agent that was assigned to the clintons in the 90s was sent to arkansas when billy was running for president, this agent was talking to a senior agent and remarked that there was no way this rube was going to win the presidency and the senior agent said "if bill clinton runs for president he will be president, there's a reason they call these people the arkansas mafia". he also stated that he was the only secret service agent ever called in to testify against a president and when he was asked about his 12 years serving the clintons how he would know if they were lying, he said the first thing they always do is lie, the second is try to shift blame and after that they simply stop responding to it
this agent wrote a book, Crisis of Character by Gary Byrne
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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is that Bernie Sanders' brother?
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no, a sanders would never sell out, they will protect and endorse a clinton every time an eyebrow is raised
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Mad_Larkin]
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No, just a honest hardworking man that Trump personally pillaged.
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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you mean a paid shill that says he was bullied and had no other options even though a lien against the property would have gotten prompt payment without the need for a lawsuit... all he would have needed to do was show a valid debt
something he also hasnt done here
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Prisoner#1]
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I'd normally be dubious of the opposition's claims but Trump has a well documented history of exhibiting this type of behaviour. This man doesnt need to present documents handsigned for me to believe him.
You wouldnt be voting for him would you?
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Reminds me of the guys bitching about the bank foreclosing on them after they stopped paying their mortgage, them bastids!
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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You wouldnt be voting for him would you?
I will not be voting for him or hitlery
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Re: Man details what en excellent business partner Trump is [Re: hostileuniverse]
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Except it wasnt and Trump doubled back on the agreed price once the ball was in his court and used intimidation to coerce him into submitting. And you think papa trumps gonna have your back post election? 
Excellent choice pris
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proof of debt... there is none
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Excellent choice pris 
I'm voting for Justin Trudeau... or timberlake... or beebler
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Excellent choice pris 
I'm voting for Justin Trudeau... or timberlake... or beebler
Miley Cyrus would make a better president than Hillary
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Neither of them will. At this point ya'll are fucked, and since we're eachothers biggest trading partners that means we're both fucked. Why couldnt you just have a nice fair election like we had man. We wouldnt be worrying about any of this.
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Yeah, this guy has a history of not paying his own workers and for scamming people out of money. And people think he's actually going to have the backs of the working class? Unbelievable.
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Excellent choice pris 
I'm voting for Justin Trudeau... or timberlake... or beebler
Miley Cyrus would make a better president than Hillary

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Yeah, this guy has a history of not paying his own workers and for scamming people out of money. And people think he's actually going to have the backs of the working class? Unbelievable.
as opposed to a history of fucking killing people and laughing about it
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Yeah, this guy has a history of not paying his own workers and for scamming people out of money. And people think he's actually going to have the backs of the working class? Unbelievable.
as opposed to a history of fucking killing people and laughing about it
Bernie is a war monger too, I know, his supporters won't believe it, but you should check some of the bills he has backed.
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Yeah, this guy has a history of not paying his own workers and for scamming people out of money. And people think he's actually going to have the backs of the working class? Unbelievable.
as opposed to a history of fucking killing people and laughing about it
Bernie is a war monger too, I know, his supporters won't believe it, but you should check some of the bills he has backed. 
bernie managed to sponsor 4 bills that passed. 3 were to rename post offices
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Bernie Sanders supporters should really take the time to examine his foreign policy record before making assumptions about it. No, he's not antiwar. No, he's not a noninterventionist. No, he didn't only vote to "support the troops" stationed overseas. Bernie - like Trump, Hillary, Rubio, Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, Ben Carson, and every other Republican and Democrat running for office - is an imperialist, and his long political history clearly reflects this..
Bernie voted in favor of HR 3107 - Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996, which "imposes sanctions on persons exporting certain goods or technology that would enhance Iran's ability to explore for, extract, refine, or transport by pipeline petroleum resources, and for other purposes."
In 1997, Bernie voted for HR 2159 - Foreign Operations FY98 Appropriations bill, which included: $3 billion for Israel, including $1.8 billion in military assistance and $1.2 billion in economic assistance; $2.12 billion for Egypt, including $1.3 billion in military assistance and $815 million in economic assistance; $770 million for former Soviet Republics; and $215 million for international narcotics control and law enforcement.
He also voted for HR 4059 - Military Construction FY99 Appropriations bill, which provided $2.82 billion for general military construction.
In 1998, Bernie's name was included as a YEA vote on HR 4655, the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998, which expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the aim of the United States to remove Saddam Hussein from power.
President George W. Bush later used the Iraqi Liberation Act to provide justification for military action for the 2003 invasion.
In 1999, Bernie voted for HR 2465, which provided $4 billion for military construction, and he voted for HR 3196, which provided: $2.16 billion for military and economic assistance to Israel; $760 million for military and economic assistance to Egypt; $535 million for Eastern European and the Baltic States, including $150 million for assistance to Kosovo; $300 million for military and economic assistance to Jordan; and $285 million for international narcotics control.
Writes Ron Jacobs of Counter Punch, 3/31/2003:
"For those of us with a memory longer than the average US news reporter, we can remember Bernie's staunch support for Clinton's 100-day bombing of Yugoslavia and Kosovo in 1999. I served as a support person for a dozen or so Vermonters who sat-in in his Burlington office a couple weeks into that war. Not only did Sanders refuse to talk with us via telephone (unlike his Vermont counterparts in the Senate-Leahy and Jeffords), he had his staff call the local police to arrest those who refused to leave until Sanders spoke with them. The following week Sanders held a town hall meeting in Montpelier, VT., where he surrounded himself with sympathetic war supporters and one university professor who opposed the war and Bernie's support for it. During the question and answer part of the meeting, Sanders yelled at two of the audience's most vocal opponents to his position and told them to leave if they didn't like what he had to say."
In 2001, Bernie supported HR 1954, which extended the Iran-Libya Sanctions Act of 1996.
Following the 9/11 attacks, Bernie voted in favor of H J Res 64 - Authorization for Use of Military Force, which allowed President Bush to use the United States Armed Forces against anyone involved with 9/11 and any nation that harbors these individuals.
In 2002, Bernie voted against H J Res 114, which authorized President Bush to use military force against Iraq. However, he would continue to support bloated military defense bills that would ultimately be used to sustain the war he allegedly disagreed with.
In 2003, Bernie supported HR 5010, which provided $355.1 billion in appropriations for the Defense Department for fiscal year 2003 - an increase of $37.5 billion from 2002 - as well as: $71.6 billion for procurement of aircraft, missiles, weapons, combat vehicles and shipbuilding; $7.4 billion for ballistic missile defense; and $58.4 million for foreign aid, which includes humanitarian assistance, foreign disaster relief and de-mining programs.
He also voted in favor of HR 2800 - Foreign Operations Appropriations, FY 2004 bill, which granted $1.8 billion in military and economic assistance to Egypt and $2.2 billion for Israeli military assistance.
In 2004, Bernie supported HR 4613, which allocated $25 billion for emergency defense spending for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and $77.4 billion for the procurement of new weapons.
In 2005, Sanders supported HR 2863 - Defense Department FY2006 Appropriations Bill, which provided $50 billion for ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In 2006, Bernie voted for HR 5631, which provided $70 billion for ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In 2007, he supported HR 1585 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, which granted $187.14 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan operations.
In 2009, he voted in favor of HR 2647, which authorized $309 million for research and evaluation, procurement, or deployment of an alternative Missile Defense System in Europe, and also allowed the Secretary of Defense to increase the active-duty number for the US Army to a number greater than otherwise allowed by law up to the 2010 baseline plus 30,000 troops.
During the same year, he called closing the torturous gulag at Guantanamo a "complicated issue" and ultimately rejected a proposal to shut it down.
In 2011, Bernie co-sponsored S. Res. 85, which urged the UN Security Council to take action to protect civilians in Libya from attack, including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory.
In 2014, Bernie came out in favor of levying economic sanctions (an act of war) against Russia: "The entire world has got to stand up to Putin," he said. "We've got to deal with sanctions."
That same year, Bernie didn't object to having his name included - by unanimous consent - in S.498, which backed Israel's brutal, summer-long military assault against Gaza.
Most recently, he vowed to continue Obama's murderous international drone war. Bernie also supports funneling weapons into Iraq to fight ISIS as well as airstrikes, and he continues to spread the myth that Iran seeks to build nuclear weapons.
All of this information is publicly available and verifiable with a Google search.
Maybe it can be brushed aside and ignored on the basis of him being a "lesser evil" who may kill less people than other presidential candidates - though that begs the question of how many foreigners a Bernie supporter is okay with butchering before it's one too many. 100? 1000? 5000? What's an acceptable body count? At what point does it stop mattering?
Whatever the case may be, is it asking too much for Bernie supporters to stop smearing actual antiwar activists and noninterventionists by putting them in the same category as a warmonger? Even if he's a "light" warmonger - even if he's a "lesser evil" - he's still a warmonger, he's still evil, and he's certainly not preaching a message of peace.
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Hot holes Hillary for Commander in queef
Is that funny cause I'm bored and been saying it all evening.
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