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My mushrooms don't have any magic
    #23475569 - 07/25/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I had my first trip a few weeks ago with 22 grams of fresh cubes.  Wasn't all that big a deal.  I got a stomach ache.  Noticed some different colors on my dogs face that I hadn't seen before and everything was over in less than 2 hours.

Then I took 3 grams of dried cubes and soaked them in everclear alcohol for 24 hours.  I filtered and then soaked again and added the alcohol together.  I put it in front of a fan with a little heat to reduce it to about 1/2 shot.  Mixed that with water and orange juice.  the effects were significantly less than my first dose.

I just put 1.5 grams of dried shrooms and let them soak in water and gave it to my wife.  She got a stomach ache and that was about it.

What's up?  Is it possible that when I dried them I killed the psilocybin?  I used a food dryer but kept the temp to 110 F.  Not hot at all.  Is it possible that the grinding killed some potency (I used a blender to cut it up into flakes about like oatmeal).


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Bernard]
    #23475697 - 07/25/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well the first dose you took sounds about right, 2.2 grams isn't much. You need to wait 10 to 14 days for a tolerance drop. If you took 3 grams within 10 days and didn't feel anything i'm not surprised. If you take pharmaceutical medication then that's the reason for no trip. Otherwise i'd say wait two weeks then take 3.5 grams dry without soaking them in anything. Make sure it's been about 5 hours since you last ate before you take them and then you'll have your answer on the potency.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #23475699 - 07/25/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If your cubes are of average potency, 2.2g should have done more than that IMO. I get decent trips off 1.5-1.75g with my homegrown cubes, although they are a bit mild. 2g is definitely enough to start getting into decent tripping territory.

If you started from multispore there's a chance it was just bad genetics. Or you have a higher natural tolerance than most people to psilocin/psilocybin.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: jds]
    #23475717 - 07/25/16 02:35 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It was about 3 weeks between trips.

I'm not on any other medication.

I'm a little scared to eat them dry.  I'm worried it'll make me really sick.  When I ate them fresh, I did get somewhat sick, but not too bad.

It was a multi-spore cake.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Bernard]
    #23476004 - 07/25/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

make a simple tea, seems to be easiest on the stomach


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Bernard]
    #23476009 - 07/25/16 04:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Bernard said:
It was about 3 weeks between trips.

I'm not on any other medication.

I'm a little scared to eat them dry.  I'm worried it'll make me really sick.  When I ate them fresh, I did get somewhat sick, but not too bad.

It was a multi-spore cake.




I'd suggest attempting to eat ~20g fresh again from another batch. It will settle quickly if this was bad genetics or something else.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Bernard]
    #23476795 - 07/25/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Bernard said:
I had my first trip a few weeks ago with 22 grams of fresh cubes.  Wasn't all that big a deal.  I got a stomach ache.  Noticed some different colors on my dogs face that I hadn't seen before and everything was over in less than 2 hours.




Sounds like you just have some weak shrooms. They should definitely do a lot more than that an it should last like 5 or 6 hours.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23476860 - 07/25/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Each fruit varies in potency, up to 10 fold. I recommend pulverizing shrooms to powder and capsule in 00 gel caps. This balances out potency and is easy on stomach.
Fresh is hardest on my stomach.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Headrush]
    #23476868 - 07/25/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In terms of taste I feel like the fresh ones aren't nearly as hard to stomach as the dry ones.
Neither of them really effect my stomach much though.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23522926 - 08/08/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I took 10 dry grams and soaked them in everclear and made 3 pulls over 3 days.  I put that in a bottle warmer near a fan and blew off most of the alcohol until I had about a tablespoon left. 

I drank that and didn't feel much after an hour.  I then ate 4 grams of shredded shrooms with just a little water to chase it down.

I got a "mild" trip.  What the hell is wrong here?  By everything I've read, I should have blown my mind.  I had a very few open eye visuals, and some strange close eyed visuals, but really nothing like everyone talks about.

My stomach was somewhat upset again, but not too bad.

Am I just super tolerant of this stuff or is it that maybe my mushrooms are really crappy?  I used a food dehydrater at 100F to dry them.  did that mess things up?:thumbdown:


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Bernard]
    #23522934 - 08/08/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

And I did that on a basically empty stomach.  Damn it.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Bernard]
    #23522959 - 08/08/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Why are you soaking dry mushrooms in everclear and doing pulls?

Just eat the dried mushrooms, no need for any of that.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Into The Woods]
    #23523013 - 08/08/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Into The Woods said:
Why are you soaking dry mushrooms in everclear and doing pulls?

Just eat the dried mushrooms, no need for any of that.





This is what I came to say haha

Make tea if you dont want to eat them, or gel caps. No wonder they didnt work


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: Bernard]
    #23523266 - 08/08/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I took 10 dry grams and soaked them in everclear and made 3 pulls over 3 days.  I put that in a bottle warmer near a fan and blew off most of the alcohol until I had about a tablespoon left. 

I drank that and didn't feel much after an hour.  I then ate 4 grams of shredded shrooms with just a little water to chase it down.

I got a "mild" trip.  What the hell is wrong here?  By everything I've read, I should have blown my mind.  I had a very few open eye visuals, and some strange close eyed visuals, but really nothing like everyone talks about.

My stomach was somewhat upset again, but not too bad.

Am I just super tolerant of this stuff or is it that maybe my mushrooms are really crappy?  I used a food dehydrater at 100F to dry them.  did that mess things up?:thumbdown:




How come you didn't just eat them?

Were these fresh mushrooms because you made it sound that way. 14 grams fresh would only be about 1.4 grams dried which is a 'mild' trip but other than that I don't really know. Forget the everclear man.


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Re: My mushrooms don't have any magic [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23523966 - 08/09/16 03:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'd read and seen videos that one way to make things easier on your stomach was to soak in everclear, squeeze out the pulp, evaporate the everclear down to a very small amount, and then you would have concentrated psilocybin.  Seems like that doesn't work.

But still.  That was 10 grams (dry)from the everclear followed by 4.1 grams (dry) that I just ate straight up.  It should have been a heavier trip.

I'm storing them uncut in a plastic food container in a cool dark place.  I put a small bag of rice in there to try to pull any left over moisture out, but they seem to be pretty dry to me.


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