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goop


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Cigarette smokers 2
#23475179 - 07/25/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I pitty you, it's like youre weak, and filthy
Pipe tobacco is worse, I can smell it from across the street 30 min after you cash your bowl.
Hooka? It's putrid. Sick to my stomach.
American spirits or other natural bullshit? Don't fucking lie to yourself.
Vaping? Alright vape bro, whatever you want believe. That shit might be dispensing copper and other airborne metals into your lungs causing your DNA to fragment! We have no fuckin idea, so you ARE the guinepig.
I can reason smoking 1 - 3 cigarettes a week exclusivley for social purposes. But smoking them like it's your second job, youre a sucker.
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: goop] 2
#23475192 - 07/25/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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What drugs do you do?
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goop


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IV meth
Jkust kidding, in one of the parallel universe's I am a fancy meth head though. And a cigarette smoker
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: goop]
#23475205 - 07/25/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree cigarettes are so old school and trashy and the people that use them are so obsessed their entire life revolves around when they get their next smoke and also they will seriously buy a pack of newports before they buy their kids some high quality nutritious food or new pair of shoes.
I know people that sell their food stamps for cigs and will go hungry long before they dont smoke. They are about as bad as crackheads hell bitches in the ghetto will suck you clean off for a pack of newport box 100s
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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I say let people do what they want
If people want to trash their bodies and potentially give themselves cancer and all that crap then who are you to deny them that right?
I just wish people wouldn't throw their butts all over the damn place
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You know how much tax money would be saved if we didnt have to keep them fucks alive while they are on chemo therapy with pneumonia while smoking two packs a day?
I think if you are a smoker and cant pay cash for your medical you should just pass away sorry for ya
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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cigarettes are the only thing in life that i derive any amount of pleasure from, please let me live
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Vaping dispensing copper? From what? Kanthal, stainless, nichrome?
Kanthal consists of iron (Fe – approx. 70%), chromium (Cr – 20-30%), and aluminium (Al – 4-7%). Upon heating, aluminium metal oxidises and the resulting aluminium oxide forms a protective layer on the surface.
Nichrome is an alloy of Cr (80%) and nickel (20%). When heated to so called red hot temperature an outer layer of chromium(III) oxide develops, which protects the heating element from further oxidation.
Recently stainless steel (SS) has been introduced to the vapers market. Steel itself is an alloy of iron and carbon (C). When at least 13% of chromium (Cr) is added to normal steel it becomes stainless, which means that it does not rust. The amount of Cr in that alloy is sufficient to form a protective layer of chromium oxide, just as in case of nichrome. Other metals present in SS depend on its type, eg. SS 316 contains also small amounts of molybdenum (Mo - 2.5%) and manganese (Mn – 2%).
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I need to quit. I have one cig left then I'm calling it.
I don't understand some of the hostility toward smokers. I see it a lot actually. I do understand not wanting to pay their med bills, you shouldn't have to pay for anyone but yourself anyway.
It seems like one of those "micro aggression" things
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: lokendoch]
#23475272 - 07/25/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I vape. Used to smoke, make my own liquid, it is propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine( both food grade ) and flavored with food grade flavoring. Its the same as breathing the vapor from a pan of candy cooking on your stove....... Except the nicotine, which gets less and less the more I make........
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: goop]
#23475307 - 07/25/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi, I'm the Marlboro martyr Would you mind setting me on fire, just so I can breathe?
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I just wish people wouldn't throw their butts all over the damn place
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: Adolin]
#23475335 - 07/25/16 12:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i stopped buying packs a while ago, much more economical and convenient to roll my own cigarettes. I like smoking the blue american spirit or some other "all natural tobacco" and yeah one of the thing that bugs me the most is discarded cigarette butts, pisses me off when people can't dispose of their trash correctly and think the sidewalk or the shrub is a good place to allocate their garbage this shit is even worse in places that have a beach because a single butt can contaminate many liters of water.
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It's just nasty it smells nasty, looks nasty I have to listen to them hacking all the time they make me smell like shit if I go to a smokers house. I have to look at cigarette butts all over the sidewalks and walking trails in the woods. I had to watch two grandfathers, an aunt and a great uncle die of lung cancer and that was pretty traumatizing seeing people i love look like skin and bone skeletons on their hospice bed wollering in shit and piss. And then when I hang out with friends that are broke all I hear couples bitching about none stop is who smoked the most cigarettes and how they are going to get another pack. Im trying to chill and hang out and discuss some real shit and they wont talk about shit but finding money for another pack its just dumb as fuuuuuck
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[quote]KristiMidocean said: Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Psychoslut said: It's just nasty it smells nasty, looks nasty I have to listen to them hacking all the time they make me smell like shit if I go to a smokers house. I have to look at cigarette butts all over the sidewalks and walking trails in the woods. I had to watch two grandfathers, an aunt and a great uncle die of lung cancer and that was pretty traumatizing seeing people i love look like skin and bone skeletons on their hospice bed wollering in shit and piss. And then when I hang out with friends that are broke all I hear couples bitching about none stop is who smoked the most cigarettes and how they are going to get another pack. Im trying to chill and hang out and discuss some real shit and they wont talk about shit but finding money for another pack its just dumb as fuuuuuck
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goop


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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: Aedium]
#23475526 - 07/25/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm hostile online about tobacco abuse because I'm selfish and wish to spend more time with my loved ones who smoke and I'll be bummed out that I can't hang with them anymore when they die before me.
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: goop]
#23475558 - 07/25/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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goop said: I'm hostile online about tobacco abuse because I'm selfish and wish to spend more time with my loved ones who smoke and I'll be bummed out that I can't hang with them anymore when they die before me.
Im just quoting because I agree. I have lost my grandma to lung cancer from smoking.
It is a disgusting habit. People think one day the damage just happens and that they can change. They have no concept of cellular damage and how you fuck up every subsequent generation of cells in your body.
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: goop]
#23475587 - 07/25/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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goop said: I'm hostile online about tobacco abuse because I'm selfish and wish to spend more time with my loved ones who smoke and I'll be bummed out that I can't hang with them anymore when they die before me.
So, your weak ass psyche/body can't tolerate a little second hand smoke -- even if it means you'll get to spend time with loved ones? I smoke in the privacy of my own home and have carbon filters and an industrial (meant for 10k sq ft house, in a 400sqft bedroom) air ionizer that clears out the smell immediately. It's not a matter of being able to quit, it's the pleasurable feeling of dopamine, serotonin, also nicotine interferes with gaba receptors inhibiting dopamine, to make the buzz last longer.
I know exactly how much I'm risking and smoke less than four-seven cigs a day (off work) with plastic filters that take out a significant amount of tar and carcinogens. I'm probably not going to live till 60 anyways as I'm an adrenaline junkie. I also vape if I want more nicotine.
I'm hostile about people who are hostile about tobacco use. It's my personal choice, I don't smoke near other people, so fuck your generalizations.
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Lol u mad, i bet your house still has a permanent tinge of stink that you can't notice cause you live in it.
I'm not worried about second hand smoke, my body produces anti bodies to all that shit.
Since you plan on dying before 60 from an accident: you're exempt from the hate.
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: goop]
#23475682 - 07/25/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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goop said: Lol u mad, i bet your house still has a permanent tinge of stink that you can't notice cause you live in it.
I'm not worried about second hand smoke, my body produces anti bodies to all that shit.
Since you plan on dying before 60 from an accident: you're exempt from the hate.
Not really mad, just don't agree with your mentality, and broad generalizations... btw O3 is highly effective in destroying the smell of smoke.
This is how it works:
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Stark and Stark-Zeeman transitions within single J states of ozone have been studied using molecular beam electric resonance spectroscopy. Results include dipole moment, μ; dipole moment of the first excited bending mode, μ (010); polarizability anisotropies, αaa-αbb and αaa-αcc; rotational magnetic moments, ga, gb, gc; magnetic susceptibility anisotropies, χaa-χbb and χaa-χcc; and quadrupole moment components, ϑaa, ϑbb, ϑcc. μ=0.5337(1) D, μ (010) =0.5261(1) D, αaa-αbb=2.82(1) Å3, αaa-αcc=2.63(4) Å3, gaa=2.98933(8), gbb=-0.22919(3), gcc=-0.07623(b), χaa-χbb=5.91(2) KHz/kg2, χaa -χcc=12.05(4) KHz/kg2, ϑaa=-1.4(2) ×10-26 esuṡcm2, ϑbb=-0.7(2) ×10-26 esuṡcm2, ϑcc=2.1(3) ×10-26 esuṡcm2.
Ozone literally destroys the molecules that smell on a molecular level.
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some cultures in the world use tobacco as part of their healing process. The stuff they use probably isn't grown with radioative fertilizer or crazy pesticides, and probably doesn't have a fuck load of added chemicals.
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There are many different types of curanderos. "Yerberos" are primarily herbalists. "Hueseros and Sobaderos" are bone/muscle therapists who emphasize physical ailments. "Parteras" are midwives. "Oracionistas" work primarily through the power of prayer.
Among these broader terms there are several sub specialties. For instance, Yerberos who work primarily with tobacco to heal patients are known as tabaqueros. Healers who work primarily with ayahuasca are known as ayahuasqueros. Healers who work with peyote are known as peyoteros.
Although many curanderos do have a specialty and may identify with it, that does not mean that these healing modalities are necessarily strict and do not overlap. As an example, an oracionista may also be a powerful yerbera and so on.
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: 404]
#23475730 - 07/25/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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404 said: some cultures in the world use tobacco as part of their healing process. The stuff they use probably isn't grown with radioative fertilizer or crazy pesticides, and probably doesn't have a fuck load of added chemicals.
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There are many different types of curanderos. "Yerberos" are primarily herbalists. "Hueseros and Sobaderos" are bone/muscle therapists who emphasize physical ailments. "Parteras" are midwives. "Oracionistas" work primarily through the power of prayer.
Among these broader terms there are several sub specialties. For instance, Yerberos who work primarily with tobacco to heal patients are known as tabaqueros. Healers who work primarily with ayahuasca are known as ayahuasqueros. Healers who work with peyote are known as peyoteros.
Although many curanderos do have a specialty and may identify with it, that does not mean that these healing modalities are necessarily strict and do not overlap. As an example, an oracionista may also be a powerful yerbera and so on.

so, ancient cultures did retarded things out of ignorance?
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i doubt naturally grown tobacco is as bad for you as store bought cigs
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: goop]
#23475745 - 07/25/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I vape vape vape. The immediate effects are better than the immediate effects of Cig smoking. The thing is tho your supposed to do it and keep lowering your nicotine level till you hit zero. Then keep vaping zero and just quit after that. Most, like me just keep vaping at 3mg. That's not what your supposed to do tho
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: 404]
#23475750 - 07/25/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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i doubt naturally grown tobacco is as bad for you as store bought cigs
You mean "big tobacco". You can but naturally grown additive free from local Indian stores in my area. They have the leaf un shredded. You can get it way cheaper online tho.
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I smoke because I enjoy it. Plus it makes me look cool. I get all the bitches leaning against the high school wall when the bell rings.
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: 404]
#23475771 - 07/25/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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that doesnt sound convincing
Maybe doing it as a habit makes it worse though. I doubt the Indians smoked constantly.
Are the additives really the problem? I've seen lists of scary sounding chemicals, and alot just naturally occur
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Kind of like how there are a lot of carcinogens in cannabis smoke, huh
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: 404]
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Im not sure why cannabis doesnt cause cancer. We would know if it did by now, sine the Nazis were the ones ho did some of the most important cigarette research on animals. I doubt there were a bunch of additives in that.
by the way, nice deflection onto a non problem.
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goop said: I'm hostile online about tobacco abuse because I'm selfish and wish to spend more time with my loved ones who smoke and I'll be bummed out that I can't hang with them anymore when they die before me.
So, your weak ass psyche/body can't tolerate a little second hand smoke -- even if it means you'll get to spend time with loved ones? I smoke in the privacy of my own home and have carbon filters and an industrial (meant for 10k sq ft house, in a 400sqft bedroom) air ionizer that clears out the smell immediately. It's not a matter of being able to quit, it's the pleasurable feeling of dopamine, serotonin, also nicotine interferes with gaba receptors inhibiting dopamine, to make the buzz last longer.
I know exactly how much I'm risking and smoke less than four-seven cigs a day (off work) with plastic filters that take out a significant amount of tar and carcinogens. I'm probably not going to live till 60 anyways as I'm an adrenaline junkie. I also vape if I want more nicotine.
I'm hostile about people who are hostile about tobacco use. It's my personal choice, I don't smoke near other people, so fuck your generalizations.
You are very much an exception, and not the rule with your filter rig.
Smoking alters the DNA of all those who come in contact with the smoke.
It's one of those things that would actually be banned in an instant if it were to come out now.
People moaning about governments and taxes, all the while keeping the government in pocket through taxation of radioactive substances that people actually into their lungs. How about not giving tobacco companies and the government your money so you can ruin your body and alter your genetics and your offsprings genetics forever.
It would be one thing if actual smoking wasn't the route administration and it was something that didn't invade others' privacy.
Waking a Sleeping Giant: The Tobacco Industry’s Response to the Polonium-210 Issue http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2509609/
Secondhand Tobacco Smoke: A Source of Lead Exposure in US Children and Adolescents http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3489360/
Gimme dat polonium 210 and lead. I can't enough.
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