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some cultures in the world use tobacco as part of their healing process. The stuff they use probably isn't grown with radioative fertilizer or crazy pesticides, and probably doesn't have a fuck load of added chemicals.
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There are many different types of curanderos. "Yerberos" are primarily herbalists. "Hueseros and Sobaderos" are bone/muscle therapists who emphasize physical ailments. "Parteras" are midwives. "Oracionistas" work primarily through the power of prayer.
Among these broader terms there are several sub specialties. For instance, Yerberos who work primarily with tobacco to heal patients are known as tabaqueros. Healers who work primarily with ayahuasca are known as ayahuasqueros. Healers who work with peyote are known as peyoteros.
Although many curanderos do have a specialty and may identify with it, that does not mean that these healing modalities are necessarily strict and do not overlap. As an example, an oracionista may also be a powerful yerbera and so on.
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: 404]
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404 said: some cultures in the world use tobacco as part of their healing process. The stuff they use probably isn't grown with radioative fertilizer or crazy pesticides, and probably doesn't have a fuck load of added chemicals.
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There are many different types of curanderos. "Yerberos" are primarily herbalists. "Hueseros and Sobaderos" are bone/muscle therapists who emphasize physical ailments. "Parteras" are midwives. "Oracionistas" work primarily through the power of prayer.
Among these broader terms there are several sub specialties. For instance, Yerberos who work primarily with tobacco to heal patients are known as tabaqueros. Healers who work primarily with ayahuasca are known as ayahuasqueros. Healers who work with peyote are known as peyoteros.
Although many curanderos do have a specialty and may identify with it, that does not mean that these healing modalities are necessarily strict and do not overlap. As an example, an oracionista may also be a powerful yerbera and so on.

so, ancient cultures did retarded things out of ignorance?
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i doubt naturally grown tobacco is as bad for you as store bought cigs
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: goop]
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I vape vape vape. The immediate effects are better than the immediate effects of Cig smoking. The thing is tho your supposed to do it and keep lowering your nicotine level till you hit zero. Then keep vaping zero and just quit after that. Most, like me just keep vaping at 3mg. That's not what your supposed to do tho
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: 404]
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i doubt naturally grown tobacco is as bad for you as store bought cigs
You mean "big tobacco". You can but naturally grown additive free from local Indian stores in my area. They have the leaf un shredded. You can get it way cheaper online tho.
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I smoke because I enjoy it. Plus it makes me look cool. I get all the bitches leaning against the high school wall when the bell rings.
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: 404]
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that doesnt sound convincing
Maybe doing it as a habit makes it worse though. I doubt the Indians smoked constantly.
Are the additives really the problem? I've seen lists of scary sounding chemicals, and alot just naturally occur
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Kind of like how there are a lot of carcinogens in cannabis smoke, huh
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Re: Cigarette smokers [Re: 404]
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Im not sure why cannabis doesnt cause cancer. We would know if it did by now, sine the Nazis were the ones ho did some of the most important cigarette research on animals. I doubt there were a bunch of additives in that.
by the way, nice deflection onto a non problem.
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goop said: I'm hostile online about tobacco abuse because I'm selfish and wish to spend more time with my loved ones who smoke and I'll be bummed out that I can't hang with them anymore when they die before me.
So, your weak ass psyche/body can't tolerate a little second hand smoke -- even if it means you'll get to spend time with loved ones? I smoke in the privacy of my own home and have carbon filters and an industrial (meant for 10k sq ft house, in a 400sqft bedroom) air ionizer that clears out the smell immediately. It's not a matter of being able to quit, it's the pleasurable feeling of dopamine, serotonin, also nicotine interferes with gaba receptors inhibiting dopamine, to make the buzz last longer.
I know exactly how much I'm risking and smoke less than four-seven cigs a day (off work) with plastic filters that take out a significant amount of tar and carcinogens. I'm probably not going to live till 60 anyways as I'm an adrenaline junkie. I also vape if I want more nicotine.
I'm hostile about people who are hostile about tobacco use. It's my personal choice, I don't smoke near other people, so fuck your generalizations.
You are very much an exception, and not the rule with your filter rig.
Smoking alters the DNA of all those who come in contact with the smoke.
It's one of those things that would actually be banned in an instant if it were to come out now.
People moaning about governments and taxes, all the while keeping the government in pocket through taxation of radioactive substances that people actually into their lungs. How about not giving tobacco companies and the government your money so you can ruin your body and alter your genetics and your offsprings genetics forever.
It would be one thing if actual smoking wasn't the route administration and it was something that didn't invade others' privacy.
Waking a Sleeping Giant: The Tobacco Industry’s Response to the Polonium-210 Issue http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2509609/
Secondhand Tobacco Smoke: A Source of Lead Exposure in US Children and Adolescents http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3489360/
Gimme dat polonium 210 and lead. I can't enough.
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