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morty422
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Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy
#23474929 - 07/25/16 09:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello All,
I experimented with some popcorn and (not to my surprise) - had a big issue with contamination. Needless to say, I won't be attempting popcorn again any time soon....hehe
Regardless, I had some pint jars of popcorn that made it through the contamination factory that I wanted to play around with.

-Substrate is Coir/Verm made with Damions coir tek -1/4 spawn/substrate ratio -1/4 in holes in all the right (or wrong) places stuffed with polyfil
I have absolutely no idea how this is going to go... I will probably end up taking off the lid after colonization and tossing it into a chamber.
Many have tried - many have failed. But if I realize there is a big chance that this won't work too well, I might find myself real happy when it does!
Let me know what you guys think about the "Mini-Mono-Tube-Thingy".
(Tube = Joke from past growers posting about their 'mono-tubes'... )
Here we go!
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Mycologist217
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23474978 - 07/25/16 09:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks good to me! I wonder if that tray is lined at all? If not you might get some side pinning going on because the substrate will shrink away from the sides, but the build looks fine.
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: Mycologist217]
#23474988 - 07/25/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldn't put it in a chamber if I were you. Although the shrooms might outgrow that thing height wise.
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: Bobabouy]
#23475609 - 07/25/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mycologist217 said: Looks good to me! I wonder if that tray is lined at all? If not you might get some side pinning going on because the substrate will shrink away from the sides, but the build looks fine.
It is lined with a black vinyl cutout made from the skins of freshly slaughtered African unicorns. So hopefully there will be no side pinning.
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Bobabouy said: I wouldn't put it in a chamber if I were you. Although the shrooms might outgrow that thing height wise.
I'm fairly new to indoor cubensis growing so I have to ask... Why would you be against putting the tray into a SGFC or a chamber with good FAE and High Humidity?
I'm a greenhouse guy so I am fairly new to a lot of these indoor ninja techniques.
Thanks!
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23475632 - 07/25/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not necessarily against it. It's just the chances of it drying out in a lager tub are increased. I mean, it has a lid on it already. If the shrooms outgrow the little tub, then you might want to transfer it to something larger.
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: Bobabouy]
#23475694 - 07/25/16 02:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bobabouy said: Not necessarily against it. It's just the chances of it drying out in a lager tub are increased. I mean, it has a lid on it already. If the shrooms outgrow the little tub, then you might want to transfer it to something larger.
Ahh. I see.
I have the supplies available to create a humidified terrarium with good FAE. If they start to shroom-splode I think I will attempt that route.
I'm wondering about the 1/4 inch holes and if I can dial in good conditions just like I've seen others do in a monotub...
I searched for miniature tubs to get a basic idea and didn't find any tried and true teks on how to position holes besides substrate level holes and holes up top to vent. I went overboard knowing that if necessary I could pull polyfil or tape holes, etc...
Also, for some reason, I couldn't find any search results when I typed in "mini-mono-tube-thingy"... . Hahaha
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23475702 - 07/25/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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search just Mini Mono instead.
Pasty has a good link in his sig about Mini Monos.
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: mupetmower]
#23475951 - 07/25/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: search just Mini Mono instead.
Pasty has a good link in his sig about Mini Monos.
Thanks!
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23482198 - 07/27/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So this is day two and I'm starting to see some life shine through!
I've been looking into how to dial in the tray when it comes time to fruit.
I've seen a lot of people say the tub is dialed in nice when you get the circles of "no-condensation" around your polyfil.
I'm still a little while away from fruiting-but I'd like to know if anyone has some tips on dialing in good conditions in a tub of this size.
I imagine it will be a lot easier than a larger tub to get the humidity and fae right.
Thanks everyone!
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23482209 - 07/27/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you're willing to mist more, loosen them all up, or even take them out, and keep the bitch glistening
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: Mad Season]
#23482309 - 07/27/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: If you're willing to mist more, loosen them all up, or even take them out, and keep the bitch glistening
The bitch shall glisten good sir... the bitch shall glisten.
It is my knowledge to keep the lid on until 100% colonized, aye?
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23492325 - 07/30/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello All,
This is day 5 on the mini-mono-tube-thingy...
It seems to be going well-lots of growth in the past 2 days. There is condensation on the inside of the tray and the mycelium has just about penetrated all of the top layer of coir/verm.
Can anyone give me some insight on what the conditions look like? I have not done any work to any of the polyfil as of yet as I don't want to disturb the colonizing mycelium.
The mycelium is definitely reaching out into the air a bit - not sure what that means in a miniature tub like this.
Let me know if you have any advice.
Thanks!
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Mycologist217
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23492417 - 07/30/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looks healthy to me! Got nice dry rings on your lid so I'm sure air is moving through....just let it set for the next week or so in fruiting conditions and you'll see some pins
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: Mycologist217]
#23492444 - 07/30/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mycologist217 said: Looks healthy to me! Got nice dry rings on your lid so I'm sure air is moving through....just let it set for the next week or so in fruiting conditions and you'll see some pins
In monotub grows, I see people taping the holes for colonization and then placing polyfil in to initiate the fruiting. I'm guessing this is so the colonizing mycelium gets it's dose of cO2... I did not make holes for colonization. I simply polyfilled the holes from the start and let it go.
In my opinion, in the wild, there is no one taping holes and no one to initiate pinning.
Is this a good school of thought or would this be something that needs to be done to larger substrates or maybe certain kinds of substrates?
Thanks
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23492537 - 07/30/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lots of people doing spawn run in fruiting conditions. It's not a good practice for some species but for cubes it's fine and seems to even speed up pin times.
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23492592 - 07/30/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Lots of people doing spawn run in fruiting conditions. It's not a good practice for some species but for cubes it's fine and seems to even speed up pin times.
Thanks a lot pasty.
I've got some of your plates in the mix right now as well...
Bout to be isolate'n dem genetics... Zing!
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: morty422]
#23493002 - 07/30/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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morty422 said: Hello All,
I experimented with some popcorn and (not to my surprise) - had a big issue with contamination. Needless to say, I won't be attempting popcorn again any time soon....hehe
I'm wanting to do popcorn soon. Why do you say its a contamination factory? Feeling like I missed that part.
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: JacobStorm]
#23493020 - 07/30/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The larger grain size and elevated endospore counts mean that in addition to have far less inoculation power and making spawn runs take longer with smaller yields, you also have to sterilize it longer or run the risk of the spawn going bacterial.
Popcorn can be made to work, I used it myself when starting. But it's the shittiest spawn there is no question. It's expensive and sub par from every possible aspect. If it's the only grain you can source then use it. Otherwise it's better to just eat it.
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23493055 - 07/30/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: The larger grain size and elevated endospore counts mean that in addition to have far less inoculation power and making spawn runs take longer with smaller yields, you also have to sterilize it longer or run the risk of the spawn going bacterial.
Popcorn can be made to work, I used it myself when starting. But it's the shittiest spawn there is no question. It's expensive and sub par from every possible aspect. If it's the only grain you can source then use it. Otherwise it's better to just eat it.
Oh wow thats a lot of cons... I'm glad I found that out before wasting a lot of work. Thanks Pasty.
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morty422
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Re: Experimental (for me) Grow - The mini-mono-tube-thingy [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23493755 - 07/30/16 08:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: The larger grain size and elevated endospore counts mean that in addition to have far less inoculation power and making spawn runs take longer with smaller yields, you also have to sterilize it longer or run the risk of the spawn going bacterial.
Popcorn can be made to work, I used it myself when starting. But it's the shittiest spawn there is no question. It's expensive and sub par from every possible aspect. If it's the only grain you can source then use it. Otherwise it's better to just eat it.
To add more emphasis on why I dislike popcorn. I PC'd for 110 minutes. .....110..... I escaped with 2 jars out of 12...
Wtf, you know?
But hey, I never tried it-had some laying around. Had some extra MS syrines of B+ and thought, why not try? Now I know why you shouldn't try...
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