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Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this?
    #23474866 - 07/25/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Cake started having all these little tiny circles, are they mushrooms, mycelium or contamination (cobweb)?
can i save it? D:








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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23474871 - 07/25/16 09:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Litterally cant tell what im looking at wheres the colonisation how long has it been going


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23474875 - 07/25/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well, sorry if this is dumb but obviously im pretty new growing mushrooms.
This is the day4, yesterday it was clean (no white dots/circles) and today they suddenly appear, are they bad or sign of shrooms?


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23474877 - 07/25/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Those "spots" look like mycelium to me.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23474881 - 07/25/16 09:24 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's about to fruit. Don't throw it away.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23474888 - 07/25/16 09:25 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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well sorry if this is dumb but its obviously im pretty new growing mushrooms, just asking what is this? This is the day4, yesterday it was clean (no white dots) and tommorow they suddenly appear, are they bad or sign of mushrooms?



Right no mate its still a baby ages to wait yet its just starting colonising keep going


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23474902 - 07/25/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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well sorry if this is dumb but its obviously im pretty new growing mushrooms, just asking what is this? This is the day4, yesterday it was clean (no white dots) and today they suddenly appear, are they bad or sign of mushrooms?



Edit:I misread.

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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: impatientguy]
    #23474908 - 07/25/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah they all appear today when i checked, i will keep it to see how it goes..

edit: oh fuck i wish they are about to fruit! im so excited.
Im a little bit scarried because i didn't sterilize my room and it ain't super clean (cats) but i keep windows open 24/7 all these days ( its summer 90f-98f) i think cake dies at 106f? (risk for bacteria are higher with such temp)


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: impatientguy]
    #23474912 - 07/25/16 09:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Those are hyphal knots, are they knot?


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23474917 - 07/25/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23474933 - 07/25/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

They dont look like knots, more likely white circles, i wish they are pinheads


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23474936 - 07/25/16 09:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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They dont look like knots, more likely white circles




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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23474937 - 07/25/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That's what they look like to me. Of course, I am looking at a picture so...


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23474938 - 07/25/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Those are hyphal knots, are they knot?



Probably

I just misread the OP is all.


That mycelium structure looks very wispy and not very good/strong.  No offense to the Op.

I could still be wrong and even if I'm right it still could fruit.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: impatientguy]
    #23474950 - 07/25/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Is this a straight verm casing? That's why it looks wispy and weak. Those are knots, which coincidentally are white circles...


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23474958 - 07/25/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: impatientguy]
    #23474965 - 07/25/16 09:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

new pic if that help:






and one without flash




Seems like knots? Can i do anything about it now?
Fucking bacteria all over the place? D:


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23474969 - 07/25/16 09:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I would just put it in fruiting conditions if it isnt already

Knots are the starts of mushrooms they are good.

It doesn't stink does it? (this question excludes mycelium/mushroom smell).


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23474976 - 07/25/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:confused: where is this bacteria all over the place? In substrates bacteria is almost impossible to see. You know if there's bacteria if the myc goes all thick and rubbery, and when there's metabolites present fighting shit off, or if the mycelium doesn't even colonize in the first place. And yeah they're knots lol.. classic as fuck knots.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23474980 - 07/25/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

are they bad? what can i do about them? what caused them?  Thanks for the help btw guys pretty supportive community and fast responses u are gods


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    #23474982 - 07/25/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Is what bad? Knots? It's bad if you don't want to grow shrooms. Put that bitch in fruiting conditions if it isn't.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23474985 - 07/25/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:lol: they're good. You want them. Put it into fruiting conditions. If it's already in fruiting conditions, be patient.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: impatientguy]
    #23474994 - 07/25/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I would just put it in fruiting conditions if it isnt already

Knots are the starts of mushrooms they are good.

It doesn't stink does it? (this question excludes mycelium/mushroom smell).





no,it doesn't stink


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23474997 - 07/25/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Then your good
It looks fine:thumbup:

You'll see shrooms in just a few days as long as it's in fruiting conditions.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: impatientguy]
    #23475002 - 07/25/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I bet you'll be seeing some of those knots turn brown headed in 2ish days.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23475007 - 07/25/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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:lol: they're good. You want them. Put it into fruiting conditions. If it's already in fruiting conditions, be patient.



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I would just put it in fruiting conditions if it isnt already

Knots are the starts of mushrooms they are good.

It doesn't stink does it? (this question excludes mycelium/mushroom smell).





no,it doesn't stink







Thanks alot guys :-)
Sorry if i sound really dumb and such, i have no idea growing mushrooms, this is my first time and im learning, also what are fruiting conditions? Like more humidity and less temperature? Temperature here is always 90f-95f, if i want to make it less i have to open my aircondition which im scared because it may cause bacteria or something(its not really clean) What do you suggest?


edit: i think i have to go around 75-85 fahrenheit constantly, but its pretty hot here, air condition is not going to damage my precious cake?

Also if the temperatures goes from 70 to 90 and 70 again am i going to stress the shrooms? (if i let it open for some hours and close it again)


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23475014 - 07/25/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Run the AC, you'll have more problems in high temps than you would spewing contamination spores all over it at a low temp.

Fruiting conditions isn't exactly sterile, within a day your sub will be covered in contam spores anyways. Myc can fight it off, but high temperature will make them thrive and take over.


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    #23475022 - 07/25/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23475066 - 07/25/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah dude ,to put it plainly those white dots are ur mushrooms


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: professorFATTYCAP]
    #23477548 - 07/26/16 02:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Next day pictures,
Seems like they are knots, they got a little bit bigger (I thought knots was some kind of bacteria that's why I was paranoid lol)
Knots are actual pinheads and I'm really happy about this, anyway I'm running aircondition in bathroom (sterilized) with 1 window (small window) and there is not plenty fresh air exchange because the device is pushing hot air outside and cold inside, could this be an issue?
I'm thinking i have to close AC for some hours by night (where temperature is a little bit higher  77+) for some fresh air?
They are on about 70f+ right now
Shall I close it every night for some hours or not?









pics with no flash and no good lighting


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    #23477570 - 07/26/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Awe feels like so long ago I was figuring out what knots were too lol. Sometimes I take the knowledge for granted. Gotta remember to not assume people know everything about mushrooms lol


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23477583 - 07/26/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Seems like it lol, i am pretty impatient since its my first time and really excited to try them!
So, i am scaried if something wrong happens and how i can prevent,fix it.
Thanks for your help!! :smile:


Also what do i do here?


Fruiting phase:
Problem: No fresh air exchange, is it really important?

temp now: 95f

with air condition in bathroom: 70f+
night temp (without aircondition): 77f+

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I'm running aircondition in bathroom (sterilized) with 1 window (small window) and there is not plenty fresh air exchange because the device is pushing hot air outside and cold inside, could this be an issue?
I'm thinking i have to close AC for some hours by night (where temperature is a little bit higher  77+) for some fresh air?
They are on about 70f+ right now
Shall I close it every night for some hours or not?





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    #23477598 - 07/26/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Keep the room under 75. Run the AC as much as it needs to be ran. You don't need to be sterile when it's fruiting in unsterile conditions. Cough on it, fart on it, sneeze on it, and fuck on it. Doesn't matter dude. Mycelium has an immune system, and when growing indoors, expect it to constantly be using its immune system to stop molds from germinating. Keep it cool and keep the air exchange up and you should be good. Molds love lack of fresh air and high temps.

If you do see a mold NEVER blame it on your room. It's your weak ass myc shitting the bed that's the problem. Clean mycelium never shits the bed, so it's probably dirty af spawn if it does shit the bed.


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Mad Season]
    #23477604 - 07/26/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Keep the room under 75. Run the AC as much as it needs to be ran. You don't need to be sterile when it's fruiting in unsterile conditions. Cough on it, fart on it, sneeze on it, and fuck on it. Doesn't matter dude. Mycelium has an immune system, and when growing indoors, expect it to constantly be using its immune system to stop molds from germinating.

If you do see a mold NEVER blame it on your room. It's your weak ass myc shitting the bed that's the problem. Clean mycelium never shits the bed, so it's probably dirty af spawn if it does shit the bed.




ohh, i see. I can finally fuck with my wife around my mushrooms now LOL.

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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23478174 - 07/26/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Johnnys said:
Quote:

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Keep the room under 75. Run the AC as much as it needs to be ran. You don't need to be sterile when it's fruiting in unsterile conditions. Cough on it, fart on it, sneeze on it, and fuck on it. Doesn't matter dude. Mycelium has an immune system, and when growing indoors, expect it to constantly be using its immune system to stop molds from germinating.

If you do see a mold NEVER blame it on your room. It's your weak ass myc shitting the bed that's the problem. Clean mycelium never shits the bed, so it's probably dirty af spawn if it does shit the bed.




ohh, i see. I can finally fuck with my wife around my mushrooms now LOL.

Thanks alot dude :mushroom2: :laugh:



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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: professorFATTYCAP]
    #23478183 - 07/26/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Make the mushrooms fuck your wife


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Re: Tiny little white spots (pics include) what is this? [Re: Johnnys]
    #23478297 - 07/26/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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They dont look like knots, more likely white circles, i wish they are pinheads




they look like knots to me, knots should turn into pins if given good conditions

edit: little late to the party but still posted to reassure you its all good just let it grow, let it grow, let it grooooooooaawoooah.


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    #23484124 - 07/27/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ma little baby white dick boys are getting bigger with the time, patience is all but i can't stop checking them 5 times per day lol.

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How do you see them?

Temps here are around 90-95f per day and 80-73f night
I turn on aircondition in a small room during the day to keep temps 70-75 but FAE is a big issue  here because i have only 1 small window into that room (stealth reasons)
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    #23484132 - 07/27/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Looking alright :smile: just adjust the polyfil like a boss for the fae. 1 window is fine.


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Re: UPDATE - KNOTS TO PINS!! [Re: Mad Season]
    #23484206 - 07/27/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Okay mate thanks alot :laugh:

edit: is polyfil really beneficial?
I have to put it in the holes of my setup?
I can get some polyfil from my pillows, does it work?

And is FAE going to be increased (i think it decreases) or is it for temp/rh reasons?
Is it worth it?


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Got a pic of what the whole fruiting chamber looks like? Is it a monotub?


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    #23484261 - 07/28/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, it is a monotube
Is light really beneficial? I don't think its going to hurt for 12/12
I just put a 6500k fluorescent bulb above them and see how it goes.

But is it a debate if light is beneficial or not? I read somewhere it helps them to direct but this is not a big deal if only that.


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    #23484266 - 07/28/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If it's just a closed up box with taped holes definitely get some poly in there for fresh air, if the holes are open still a good idea to stuff some poly in to keep things from drying out unless you can keep up with some misting. 

Light is beneficial for more than direction, from what I understand they use it for the production of energy in the form of ATP.  A 6500 bulb a foot or so away is all you need though.


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Re: UPDATE - KNOTS TO PINS!! [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23484283 - 07/28/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Well what is polyfill doing anyway? Does it keep humidified the space?
If its that i dont really need it because i only spray the bag once every 24h, i think i have to do it more frequently because the first pins just started appearing today so they will need more rh the upcoming days

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    #23484292 - 07/28/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Also im thinking doing the second grow in another room with 80-90f which doesn't sound like a really good idea because of the contamns but if the first one is successful i dont really mind, i want to see how it goes with higher temp (less weight probably if successful)
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    #23484417 - 07/28/16 02:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Room smells like wet dog right now, i dont know if its contamn, it might be mushrooms smell and im too paranoid, do you guys know what it might is?
I turn off aircondition for about an hour for some fresh air
I mean it doesn't smell really bad but its fishy.

PIC UPDATE:
Cake seems clean



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Take pics of the whole chamber. Like the outside of the box. Polyfil is how you adjust fae and rH to make it all automated


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Day 8 [Re: Mad Season]
    #23488222 - 07/29/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Dem boys growing fast :laugh:
But why they dont grow the same all over the cake with multispore?
Does it depends of the genetics?
What am i doing wrong?





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    #23488233 - 07/29/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

First off looking good!
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But why they dont grow the same all over the cake with multispore?



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What am i doing wrong?




Freaking out over different pinning times... That's like what happens in 99% of grows. Shit comes up at different rates. Lots of times even with clones.


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Okay, thank you dude, its normal i guess :laugh:


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    #23488249 - 07/29/16 04:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

When their veil start to break (i guess 1 week maximum)
If there are any primordia left shall i remove them too?
I want to get the maximum out of the first grow, may i cold shock them for 12 hours (water+fridge) and start another grow?
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When their veil start to break (i guess 1 week maximum)
If there are any primordia left shall i remove them too?



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I want to get the maximum out of the first grow, may i cold shock them for 12 hours (water+fridge) and start another grow?
Strain is B+



Start a new one right now. The quicker you bang it out, the better. Don't ever cold shock a tropical species. Only cold shock edibles which fruit in fall in cool areas. Know your mushroom :wink:


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    #23488969 - 07/29/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Seems im going to harvest soon, this little boys growing extremely fast!
Seems like i found a new hobby, i love it.
Also are the white spots at the cap any sign? Low FAE or High humidity?
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Seems im going to harvest soon, this little boys growing extremely fast!
Seems like i found a new hobby, i love it.
Also are the white spots at the cap any sign? Low FAE or High humidity?
Or its just completely normal?






That's normal.  They all get the polka dot treatment while they're young.  I believe those are just veil remnants.  Looking good.  Looks like a few meals on wheels from that flush.  :grin:


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Re: Day 8 [Re: KenInVic]
    #23489001 - 07/29/16 11:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, thanks alot :laugh:
Also what about the white fuzzy base?
Seems like they need more fresh air, aircondition is a problem here because i have to keep it 1hour open at 70f every 2 or 3 hours, im trying to balance oxygen and temp, not sure if im doing it right because it might stress the mushrooms, outside is 95f(day) - 75f (night)

edit: one small window is open 24/7 at the small room.


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More fae won't hurt anything :smile:. In fact now you have pins increasing fae is recommended.


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Re: Day 8 [Re: Mad Season]
    #23489054 - 07/29/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'd love to, but how i do that?
Before 1 year i was planning to buy fan+exhaust for my cannabis plant, but i didn't because i had no money and i no longer grow cannabis, how can i increase FAE? Another option is CO2 tanks but they are pretty expensive.

The room is pretty small with one toilet and one window, the door is closed to keep temp low and contams away, i have put one small aircondition inside that pushes hot air outside the window(there is about 30cm space for the fresh air to come in while its off

Any options?

Edit: if i place a small fan like this (high speed) at my window is it going to make any difference?



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    #23489063 - 07/29/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Uh what fruiting chamber is this? When it comes to fae, you generally just work with the chamber. An open window, or the furnace kicking on every so often is like all you need for room fae.


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Re: Day 8 [Re: Mad Season]
    #23489152 - 07/29/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't use a chamber, i use a plastic bag really similiar to this

I dont have any problems with humidity, i'd say the opposite (i have to spray once or twice per day)
What do you mean by furnace kicking?
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I don't use a chamber, i use a plastic bag really similiar to this

I dont have any problems with humidity, i'd say the opposite (i have to spray once or twice per day)
What do you mean by furnace kicking?
Are there any other methods that comes to your mind to increase FAE while its hot outside?



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Re: Day 8 [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23489761 - 07/29/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

lol, its working fine tho :P

My only problem atm is FAE, how do i increase it?
Seems like turning on AC 4-5 times a day and close it for fresh air does the trick, but i have some temp swings , we will see the result.


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lol, its working fine tho :P

My only problem atm is FAE, how do i increase it?
Seems like turning on AC 4-5 times a day and close it for fresh air does the trick, but i have some temp swings , we will see the result.




More holes is the first thing that comes to mind.  I would think mainly at the bottom and top so you hopefully create an updraft in your environment.  You are probably better served if you find you need to do more misting than needing to do more fanning.


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UPDATE DAY 9
They look happy:





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    #23494978 - 07/31/16 09:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)






200g wet total, going to do my first trip ever with lemon tek!
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:vibin:

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    #23495147 - 07/31/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

By the way man, there's absolutely nothing wrong with what you did, but if you waited like a day longer then they would've broken their veils and got more weight added to them. That weight definitely adds up, trust me. Just for future reference, but like I said you didn't do anything wrong.


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    #23495151 - 07/31/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23495163 - 07/31/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

True, i was thinking the same, but everywhere i read people say that when veils break they lose some potency, and there was like 2 or 3 broke veils so i harvest, next time im going to leave them an extra day for some more weight, thanks for your help at this grow :laugh:


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    #23495166 - 07/31/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, ok going to do that. Second flush might be with higher temperatures to see how it goes (like 90f lol)   
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    #23495168 - 07/31/16 10:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you! :laugh:
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    #23495171 - 07/31/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No problem dude but I don't really think I did much to help, it looks like you did a pretty good job on your own.
And yeah, a lot f people say that it starts putting energy into creating spores after the veil breaks but from what I've read, the potency loss is insignificant and unnoticeable (that's what I remember anyways, it's been a while) especially if you catch it the day they all break.

What I usually do is wait for the majority to break the veil before I harvest. Even if a few break the veil sooner than others I just leave them until the majority follow suit.


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Day 10, Harvest [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23495173 - 07/31/16 10:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also, why crank the temp to 90?


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Day 10, Harvest [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #23495332 - 07/31/16 11:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i think the harvest was at the perfect time =]

i like mine to be just right as the veils are breaking. if there are a few that are younger, ill let it go a little longer, but i just enjoy how they look with the veils just starting to break.

good job: thumbup:

enjoy the trip.


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Second grow [Re: mupetmower]
    #23516148 - 08/06/16 02:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

We discussed about tiny white spots, lets talk about black now, lol

This is my second grow with bigger fruits as promised, i know its not worth it at all and the best thing is to pick them right before the veil break, but i left them an extra day, mycelium and bag have some black spots, i think they are spores and not contamn, but need confirm, what do you guys think?
LINK-SECOND GROW


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Re: Second grow [Re: Johnnys]
    #23516220 - 08/06/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

spores


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Re: Second grow [Re: mupetmower]
    #23516265 - 08/06/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: Second grow [Re: impatientguy]
    #23517290 - 08/06/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks alot, if spores drop does this means im going to get more mushrooms? (noob question i know)


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Re: Second grow [Re: Johnnys]
    #23517296 - 08/06/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not unless you use those spores to inoculate more cakes or grain.


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Re: Second grow [Re: Johnnys]
    #24720401 - 10/18/17 07:13 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

Gotta bump this to link another grow a year later :

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24713337


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