|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
amonra
Stranger


Registered: 06/23/13
Posts: 234
Loc: USA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Lucis]
#23524412 - 08/09/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
when used in the form of quid is better to have fresh leaves, you could rehydrate dried leaves but I never tried it. I never had much success with the quid itself I don't know why, not chew enough not hold it long enough and so on but the tincture now that's different. It's really easy to make too. The experience although different, one must not forget that is still salvia and lasts considerably longer than the smoked experience. Tincture/quid is to Salvinorin what Ayahuasca is to Dmt. It is more gentle and more feminine but again depending on dose, I had some really powerful experiences with tincture only and it can deepen really fast. Also there is a whole reverse tolerance deal going on with this compound it seems. I also made an entry in my journal about the homemade tincture experience you can check it out. In my opinion using it sublingually it is the way to go. Rarely I smoke it now and when I do it's usually plain leaf, again reverse tolerance might be a factor. Not to say that "the gods get angry" or anything like that if you smoke it but I find that when used sublingually I can actually absorb the lessons and actually have some room to do some work on myself.
-------------------- ~Form is emptiness, emptiness is form~ My Trade List
Edited by amonra (08/09/16 12:00 PM)
|
GoodStrong
Happy to Be Here



Registered: 08/14/15
Posts: 527
Loc: Boston, MA
Last seen: 11 days, 13 hours
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23524460 - 08/09/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Follow this mans advice above. Salvia quid is bomb and reverse tolerance is real. Salvia tincture is a thing I've only had twice and the second time trying it I was blitzeddd! I visualized the matrix code going down my white board while. I was practicing converting binary and had a bunch of lines set to convert already written, my brain interpreted the writing in such a crazy way
-------------------- It will always be your time to shine!
|
amonra
Stranger


Registered: 06/23/13
Posts: 234
Loc: USA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: GoodStrong]
#23524762 - 08/09/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Yeah, I only started to use it sublingually fairly recent starting this year because honestly i never thought that would make much of a difference in the experience itself or it would only produce mild threshold effects. After much trial and error and reading about it i discovered the simples way to do it LOL grain alcohol extraction/tincture. Haven't looked back since. I believe all these teachers speak and salvia speaks beautifully to those who listen. I can only compare it to the goddess Kali the supreme Mother. Nurturing,loving and also destructive, because of course like Alan Watts noted at some point " it is by destruction that life is continuously renewed" . I can see now after the sublingual experience why they believe to be the manifestation/incarnation of Mary. I believe the whole marketing of salvia is out of control and will lead only to more and more legislation and bans. There is absolutely no need for 40-60-100x; might as well vaporize the pure compound then. Not to knock this off or put it down I am sure it has its purpose pros and cons. On the other hand if one has the patience to actually work with salvia and get "accepted" by the green Goddess in other words build that reverse tolerance and use it sublingually in a shamanic way it will be rewarded I dare say it like no extract will. Salvia is really like no other psychedelic and the shamanic way of using it is the way to go, imho...
-------------------- ~Form is emptiness, emptiness is form~ My Trade List
|
Dr. Delban
Incognito hippie in disguise


Registered: 09/29/12
Posts: 2,015
Loc: UK
Last seen: 1 month, 6 days
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23524800 - 08/09/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
How to build a reverse tolerance then?
Quote:
Rhizomorpheus said: Quid method is the way to go with this sacred plant. It is a great teacher and will give you the trip of your life if you do it right lol. I'm talking waking dream type visions

Ages ago, before I even tried salvia, I have read such trip reports and I expected it to give mainly such visionary trips. I never experienced such with amoked extracts nor leaf. I want to try different methods now. I also tried tincture in the past but it was bunk. It said dose a few drops. We dosed the whole vial between two of us and only felt some sedation etc.
-------------------- Experimenting with sobriety
|
Rhizomorpheus
PrototypE


Registered: 08/07/16
Posts: 135
Loc: Deep SpacE
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23524851 - 08/09/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
amonra said: Yeah, I only started to use it sublingually fairly recent starting this year because honestly i never thought that would make much of a difference in the experience itself or it would only produce mild threshold effects. After much trial and error and reading about it i discovered the simples way to do it LOL grain alcohol extraction/tincture. Haven't looked back since. I believe all these teachers speak and salvia speaks beautifully to those who listen. I can only compare it to the goddess Kali the supreme Mother. Nurturing,loving and also destructive, because of course like Alan Watts noted at some point " it is by destruction that life is continuously renewed" . I can see now after the sublingual experience why they believe to be the manifestation/incarnation of Mary. I believe the whole marketing of salvia is out of control and will lead only to more and more legislation and bans. There is absolutely no need for 40-60-100x; might as well vaporize the pure compound then. Not to knock this off or put it down I am sure it has its purpose pros and cons. On the other hand if one has the patience to actually work with salvia and get "accepted" by the green Goddess in other words build that reverse tolerance and use it sublingually in a shamanic way it will be rewarded I dare say it like no extract will. Salvia is really like no other psychedelic and the shamanic way of using it is the way to go, imho...
Awesome im glad you jumped on board. Sublingual is the best method in general for this one dude agrees with you brother. Stuff is more potent and vivid then deems at times. I believe the smokable way is a little disrespectful to the plant. The spirits show this through countless negative experiences in the realm for a vast majority of people who smoke it. The dude has never taken it in tincture form but may try sometime he said. Intention plays a big part as well. I mean if u sit down and say to yourself "I'm going to get really fucked up from this" then smoke a huge bowl of 20x out of a water pipe lol. You are bound to be bitch slapped and told what's up but you won't understand it. Anything above 20x becomes a waste as dosage becomes hard to gauge and most of the time results in black outs... who wants that? If you can acquire fresh or dried raw material get it in my friend. With dried leaves soak in a bowl of water. Roll up a small ball with the first leaf and carfullly wrap with more soaked leaves forming a large compact ball big enough for the dose but small enough to fit in your mouth. Then toss the thing in your side cheek like a squirrel in bliss. Lay down someplace dark. Listen to music or don't it does not really matter. You will be given the key to a dream. It's amazing as these entities dude has encountered seem to sync and re occur almost every trip with the same theme and biengs... Being idk yet. The only thing that seems to change is the dialogue or experience he takes from it. Stuff really is like a vivid dream happening in real time at moments. This is the place the dream warrior came from. Makes me wonder what the hell is happening with the kappa opioid receptors at this time maybe he fell asleep idk. But this plant will take you deeper then deep...... had some killer esp type phenomenon with group ceremonies... it's out there folkS Peace Love Light and Blessings
-------------------- =) All smiles, all equaL (= Anything I post to this forum came from a book. All of it is entirely based in fiction and is for amusement purposes only. The dude hopes you enjoy it as much as he has. It's all just a dreaM.
 
|
amonra
Stranger


Registered: 06/23/13
Posts: 234
Loc: USA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Rhizomorpheus]
#23524896 - 08/09/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
well, Dr. Delban reverse tolerance builds itself as you go. I have no experience with already made tincture. I make my own and I grow my own, I know I'm weird like that :P . the way I make it about 20 ml dose held for about 10 -15 minutes is strong enough for a level 2-3 trip . a few drops seem way too little regardless how strong the tincture is. I mean the amount of Salvinorin A that 1ml of alcohol can hold is limited. can't remember the exact numbers now but I don't think a few drops will do it regardless then again maybe was bunk, IDK.
Yes, I think many people have terrifying experiences because their first time stuff a bowl of 20-40-60x like it's weed they jump straight into a level 6 experience... you can see them clowns on Youtube they have no idea what are they getting themselves into and for the unprepared explorer it can be a straight up terrifying experience. I know, this crazy idea to measure the dose....but hey whatever floats your boat...
-------------------- ~Form is emptiness, emptiness is form~ My Trade List
|
amonra
Stranger


Registered: 06/23/13
Posts: 234
Loc: USA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Rhizomorpheus]
#23524917 - 08/09/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Rhizomorpheus said:
Quote:
amonra said: Yeah, I only started to use it sublingually fairly recent starting this year because honestly i never thought that would make much of a difference in the experience itself or it would only produce mild threshold effects. After much trial and error and reading about it i discovered the simples way to do it LOL grain alcohol extraction/tincture. Haven't looked back since. I believe all these teachers speak and salvia speaks beautifully to those who listen. I can only compare it to the goddess Kali the supreme Mother. Nurturing,loving and also destructive, because of course like Alan Watts noted at some point " it is by destruction that life is continuously renewed" . I can see now after the sublingual experience why they believe to be the manifestation/incarnation of Mary. I believe the whole marketing of salvia is out of control and will lead only to more and more legislation and bans. There is absolutely no need for 40-60-100x; might as well vaporize the pure compound then. Not to knock this off or put it down I am sure it has its purpose pros and cons. On the other hand if one has the patience to actually work with salvia and get "accepted" by the green Goddess in other words build that reverse tolerance and use it sublingually in a shamanic way it will be rewarded I dare say it like no extract will. Salvia is really like no other psychedelic and the shamanic way of using it is the way to go, imho...
Awesome im glad you jumped on board. Sublingual is the best method in general for this one dude agrees with you brother. Stuff is more potent and vivid then deems at times. I believe the smokable way is a little disrespectful to the plant. The spirits show this through countless negative experiences in the realm for a vast majority of people who smoke it. The dude has never taken it in tincture form but may try sometime he said. Intention plays a big part as well. I mean if u sit down and say to yourself "I'm going to get really fucked up from this" then smoke a huge bowl of 20x out of a water pipe lol. You are bound to be bitch slapped and told what's up but you won't understand it. Anything above 20x becomes a waste as dosage becomes hard to gauge and most of the time results in black outs... who wants that? If you can acquire fresh or dried raw material get it in my friend. With dried leaves soak in a bowl of water. Roll up a small ball with the first leaf and carfullly wrap with more soaked leaves forming a large compact ball big enough for the dose but small enough to fit in your mouth. Then toss the thing in your side cheek like a squirrel in bliss. Lay down someplace dark. Listen to music or don't it does not really matter. You will be given the key to a dream. It's amazing as these entities dude has encountered seem to sync and re occur almost every trip with the same theme and biengs... Being idk yet. The only thing that seems to change is the dialogue or experience he takes from it. Stuff really is like a vivid dream happening in real time at moments. This is the place the dream warrior came from. Makes me wonder what the hell is happening with the kappa opioid receptors at this time maybe he fell asleep idk. But this plant will take you deeper then deep...... had some killer esp type phenomenon with group ceremonies... it's out there folkS Peace Love Light and Blessings
The dude should give the tincture a try. The dude won't be disappointed. For those interested I have a journal entry about my own tincture experience and how I make it : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23452802
-------------------- ~Form is emptiness, emptiness is form~ My Trade List
|
Rhizomorpheus
PrototypE


Registered: 08/07/16
Posts: 135
Loc: Deep SpacE
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#23524946 - 08/09/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
Dr. Delban said: How to build a reverse tolerance then?
Quote:
Rhizomorpheus said: Quid method is the way to go with this sacred plant. It is a great teacher and will give you the trip of your life if you do it right lol. I'm talking waking dream type visions

Ages ago, before I even tried salvia, I have read such trip reports and I expected it to give mainly such visionary trips. I never experienced such with amoked extracts nor leaf. I want to try different methods now. I also tried tincture in the past but it was bunk. It said dose a few drops. We dosed the whole vial between two of us and only felt some sedation etc.
The reverser tolerance comes with the experimentation of it. Everyone's body chemistry will be different making it your quest to figure things out. The dude is a firm believer that you find the plants and herbs in nature that work well for you. Many different cultures have different sacred plants for them based off of demographic location. In my opinion it is safe to assume these plants also pick the shamans that use them. He seems to have that experience I guess lol. Maybe you like oranges maybe you like apples you decide through relation and experience. Mirrors of mirrors if I may. As for your experience with the tincture and extracts...the dude has met some people that just plain don't get off on it. Idk what that could be from... maybe receptor damage he could not tell you because the factors are widespread. But don't give up until you know it does not work for you. Ska Maria Pastora has so much to teach you.
-------------------- =) All smiles, all equaL (= Anything I post to this forum came from a book. All of it is entirely based in fiction and is for amusement purposes only. The dude hopes you enjoy it as much as he has. It's all just a dreaM.
 
|
Rhizomorpheus
PrototypE


Registered: 08/07/16
Posts: 135
Loc: Deep SpacE
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23524961 - 08/09/16 01:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
amonra said:
Quote:
Rhizomorpheus said:
Quote:
amonra said: Yeah, I only started to use it sublingually fairly recent starting this year because honestly i never thought that would make much of a difference in the experience itself or it would only produce mild threshold effects. After much trial and error and reading about it i discovered the simples way to do it LOL grain alcohol extraction/tincture. Haven't looked back since. I believe all these teachers speak and salvia speaks beautifully to those who listen. I can only compare it to the goddess Kali the supreme Mother. Nurturing,loving and also destructive, because of course like Alan Watts noted at some point " it is by destruction that life is continuously renewed" . I can see now after the sublingual experience why they believe to be the manifestation/incarnation of Mary. I believe the whole marketing of salvia is out of control and will lead only to more and more legislation and bans. There is absolutely no need for 40-60-100x; might as well vaporize the pure compound then. Not to knock this off or put it down I am sure it has its purpose pros and cons. On the other hand if one has the patience to actually work with salvia and get "accepted" by the green Goddess in other words build that reverse tolerance and use it sublingually in a shamanic way it will be rewarded I dare say it like no extract will. Salvia is really like no other psychedelic and the shamanic way of using it is the way to go, imho...
Awesome im glad you jumped on board. Sublingual is the best method in general for this one dude agrees with you brother. Stuff is more potent and vivid then deems at times. I believe the smokable way is a little disrespectful to the plant. The spirits show this through countless negative experiences in the realm for a vast majority of people who smoke it. The dude has never taken it in tincture form but may try sometime he said. Intention plays a big part as well. I mean if u sit down and say to yourself "I'm going to get really fucked up from this" then smoke a huge bowl of 20x out of a water pipe lol. You are bound to be bitch slapped and told what's up but you won't understand it. Anything above 20x becomes a waste as dosage becomes hard to gauge and most of the time results in black outs... who wants that? If you can acquire fresh or dried raw material get it in my friend. With dried leaves soak in a bowl of water. Roll up a small ball with the first leaf and carfullly wrap with more soaked leaves forming a large compact ball big enough for the dose but small enough to fit in your mouth. Then toss the thing in your side cheek like a squirrel in bliss. Lay down someplace dark. Listen to music or don't it does not really matter. You will be given the key to a dream. It's amazing as these entities dude has encountered seem to sync and re occur almost every trip with the same theme and biengs... Being idk yet. The only thing that seems to change is the dialogue or experience he takes from it. Stuff really is like a vivid dream happening in real time at moments. This is the place the dream warrior came from. Makes me wonder what the hell is happening with the kappa opioid receptors at this time maybe he fell asleep idk. But this plant will take you deeper then deep...... had some killer esp type phenomenon with group ceremonies... it's out there folkS Peace Love Light and Blessings
The dude should give the tincture a try. The dude won't be disappointed. For those interested I have a journal entry about my own tincture experience and how I make it : https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23452802
The dude will be trying this as soon as he can aquire more raw leaves. He has some 190 proof triple distilled moonshine a friend brought from Kentucky. Should do well as he has used it for other herbs and things amongst him. He is going to check your forum piece for the recipe. Always looking for new and exciting life experiences my friend ThankS
-------------------- =) All smiles, all equaL (= Anything I post to this forum came from a book. All of it is entirely based in fiction and is for amusement purposes only. The dude hopes you enjoy it as much as he has. It's all just a dreaM.
 
|
amonra
Stranger


Registered: 06/23/13
Posts: 234
Loc: USA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Rhizomorpheus]
#23525103 - 08/09/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
That 190 moonshine will work great!!! You might need to mix it with more water in this case before dosing as it burns your mouth pretty bad when held for 10 minutes or more. I usually mix the 151 tincture with equal part water, a 1:1 ratio and even like that it burns a bit. the 190 moonshine might need maybe a 1:2 ratio . last tincture came out quite strong 15 ml+20 ml water for a nice lvl 3 experience. Well, I mean you already know it seems the effects of the quid, the only advantage of the tincture is that you don't have to chew a mouthful of leaves and also the unholy bitter taste is not noticeable and of course the ability to take stronger doses depending on how strong your tincture is. It takes some trial and error to find your dose. I have read reports of some people not getting anything out of Salvia unless they use high extracts, I don't know it could be many factors at play here from reverse tolerance to poorly chewing technique definitely the oral use of Salvia takes a little patience and dedication but even extracts after all Salvia is not even supposed to be a feel good drug, it's a tool for self exploration. You (not you personally) wouldn't ask about a hammer if "anyone feels there is something creepy about it" would you? In other words "The only Zen you will find on top of mountains is the Zen you bring with you" ...so if there is something creepy about it then there must be something creepy about your Zen as well
-------------------- ~Form is emptiness, emptiness is form~ My Trade List
|
nooneman


Registered: 04/24/09
Posts: 14,568
Loc: Utah
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23525122 - 08/09/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Anyone else end up with INTENSE deja vu after salvia? Every time I would use salvia, I would have super intense deja vu all the time for a couple of months before the effect would gradually taper off.
|
amonra
Stranger


Registered: 06/23/13
Posts: 234
Loc: USA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: nooneman]
#23525228 - 08/09/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
This dude thinks that all these teachers stay with you for a long time after the experience and they whisper to those who listen...
|
Dr. Delban
Incognito hippie in disguise


Registered: 09/29/12
Posts: 2,015
Loc: UK
Last seen: 1 month, 6 days
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23525267 - 08/09/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
amonra said: This dude thinks that all these teachers stay with you for a long time after the experience and they whisper to those who listen... 
Who is "this dude" of yours?
I have smoked leaves and extracts so many times, and never noticed any reverse tolerance. Maybe it builds up more after oral method? How about smoking leaves or extract during a quidding/tincture trip?
When it comes to alcohol extraction, I recommend 70% concentration. I found that legal plant extracts (e.g. valerian root) are made using 70% ethanol. I tried this with mescaline extraction and it gave me best results to date. Previously I have experimented with stronger alcohol concentrations and the results were less satisfying.
-------------------- Experimenting with sobriety
|
impaired420
Everything Is Nothing



Registered: 11/10/14
Posts: 1,390
Loc: Somewhere
Last seen: 3 years, 3 months
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23525284 - 08/09/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
amonra said:
Quote:
impaired420 said: I just extracted 3.5g plain leaf in 105proof alcohol 10mL and put a small capfull maybe 2mL total in my mouth for fifteen minutes and had a very pleasant evening. Going to add more leaves to the same tincture in a week because it's still not as strong as I'd like but first impression of buccal administered salvia is a YES for me.
Although I still see myself smoking it as well. Like someone else said. I'm not sure why I keep getting drawn back to this terrifying substance.
yes try 151 next time at least, 190 would be ideal. I made an entry in my journal about the home made tincture experience. I usually use 151 and about 10 grams of leaf/100-150 ml alcohol. I end up with probably around 100 ml of tincture which is quite strong. my usual dose would be around 10-20ml for about 10-15 minutes and i get a very nice trip for about 1-2 hours. I am actually quite amazed how fast it hits and how fast it deepens. AT the 10 minute mark I am definitely tripping getting close to peak. I think many people find salvia disturbing or creepy and straight up terrifying because they jump straight into a level 5-6 experience using all this extracts 40x 60x... now I'm not saying they don;t have their use but subligual is where it's at in my opinion. It leaves you actually some room to do some work on yourself rather than just blow you to pieces across the universe .... I am sure the reverse tolerance is a factor in my experience...
Thanks for the reply, the highest proof I can get is 105% corn whiskey what liqoir do you use that is 151? Sorry I'm not an alcohol drinker usually so I was pretty lost in the store and didn't want to ask anyone lmao.
I also agree about that , I've never been in the upper levels of salviaspace but I do not feel that is the purpose of this teacher. I have extremely beneficial effects at 10x extract and even with plain leaf even, I believe there's a reason it's dysphoric to smoke a 60x+ extract it shouldn't be done lol. The maztec shamans said that smoking the plant is considered disrespectful, they would use the plant buccally themselves, it was the first entheogen the apprenticing shamans would be exposed to.
Don't overdose on salvia, a little goes a loooonnggg way, I mean it is active in MCG ranges just as LSD so yeah.
-------------------- "Our task must be to free ourselves... By widening our circle of compassion, To embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature and its beauty." -Albert Einstein Offering salvia divinorum clones, leaf, and extracts for trades legal states.
|
jds


Registered: 10/06/08
Posts: 3,083
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: impaired420]
#23525326 - 08/09/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
I agree with everyone here that quids are the way to go if you want a trip that is more than just a 4 minutes mindfuck.
The best way to do it is grow a plant or two at home and just harvest the leaves once in a while. They grow really fast, one plant gave me enough leaves to trip pretty much daily, and since salvinorin A doesn't induce tolerance, it is really up to you how often you want to trip.
With quids the trips are much slower, nicer, and will easily last 1-2h. Entity contact is less "brutal". You have more time to get used to the salvia headspace, things aren't as intense, though they very well can be if you overshoot your dose.
-------------------- “No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten.” ― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
|
amonra
Stranger


Registered: 06/23/13
Posts: 234
Loc: USA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: impaired420]
#23525365 - 08/09/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Impared420 you can use Bacardi 151. I have used it before and works great. you can find anywhere almost, here is even at grocery stores but a liquor store should definitely have it. Or you could order some everclear 151 or 190. I also find that anything below 75% ( 151 ) is not really worth the effort although not much effort is need it anyway to soak some leaves but you get my point. Indeed is active at mcg range. and just one gram of plain leaf can contain as much as 2.5 mg of Salvinorin A. so yeah my point exactly... Reverse tolerance is definitely a real factor otherwise we wouldn't have people breakthrough smoking plain leaf or chewing a few leaves, and yet it happens.Now I am not saying that there is such a huge reverse tolerance that one leaf will send you where a 60x would I mean this process has its limits I'm sure but then again if all you smoke is extract and strong extract the only way of knowing if you have a reverse tolerance would be to try half the dose. I mean if you don't really measure the dose how do you know? you might be surprised that it takes much less to breakthrough. Again how regularly are you smoking it? you can smoke it for years if you do it once every other month I don;t think it builds up. I am not an expert in pharmaceuticals and stuff I can only speak from my experience.
-------------------- ~Form is emptiness, emptiness is form~ My Trade List
|
mushpunx
Fungus Punk


Registered: 04/20/14
Posts: 13,394
Last seen: 11 days, 21 hours
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23525452 - 08/09/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Have you tried better pyschedelics like DMT or mushrooms? Not icky Amanitas
--------------------
 Amateur Mycologists United AMU Q&A
|
amonra
Stranger


Registered: 06/23/13
Posts: 234
Loc: USA
Last seen: 7 years, 1 month
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: mushpunx]
#23525515 - 08/09/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
This dude had tried a lot even the ones in your signature pics and while they do take the crown (so he says) they are not "better" in any way, no more than potatoes are better than apples . That's his opinion , what do I know... now if you want to eat apples obviously that apples will be better than potatoes in giving you what you are looking for... great!...I'm confused now  
-------------------- ~Form is emptiness, emptiness is form~ My Trade List
|
mushpunx
Fungus Punk


Registered: 04/20/14
Posts: 13,394
Last seen: 11 days, 21 hours
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23525703 - 08/09/16 06:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
amonra said: This dude had tried a lot even the ones in your signature pics and while they do take the crown (so he says) they are not "better" in any way, no more than potatoes are better than apples . That's his opinion , what do I know... now if you want to eat apples obviously that apples will be better than potatoes in giving you what you are looking for... great!...I'm confused now   
Haha
Just making sure, a lot of folks only try the legal stuff you can get online... HWBR, salvia, amanita etc
--------------------
 Amateur Mycologists United AMU Q&A
|
Rhizomorpheus
PrototypE


Registered: 08/07/16
Posts: 135
Loc: Deep SpacE
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
|
Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23525713 - 08/09/16 06:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
|
|
Quote:
mushpunx said: Have you tried better pyschedelics like DMT or mushrooms? Not icky Amanitas
Ibogaine is the only one left on his fuck it lisT for entheogenS
Quote:
amonra said: This dude had tried a lot even the ones in your signature pics and while they do take the crown (so he says) they are not "better" in any way, no more than potatoes are better than apples . That's his opinion , what do I know... now if you want to eat apples obviously that apples will be better than potatoes in giving you what you are looking for... great!...I'm confused now   
That makes him truffle shuffle saying its not as strong lol. He told me Sally D can produce visions more vivid then some he has ever experienced idk maybe that's just him. The dude is a member of The Peyote Way Church of God and has done tons of cactus and HCL mescalito. He has also done a lot of Ayahuasca as well freebase formula. Legit ass L the silver is flowing through me lol. All made from love and it's gravy train. The dude is justs saying its some potent ass shit lol. Amenra just relax in it all because you have a key.
-------------------- =) All smiles, all equaL (= Anything I post to this forum came from a book. All of it is entirely based in fiction and is for amusement purposes only. The dude hopes you enjoy it as much as he has. It's all just a dreaM.
 
|
|