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impaired420
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: LuSiD9] 1
#23514456 - 08/05/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just extracted 3.5g plain leaf in 105proof alcohol 10mL and put a small capfull maybe 2mL total in my mouth for fifteen minutes and had a very pleasant evening. Going to add more leaves to the same tincture in a week because it's still not as strong as I'd like but first impression of buccal administered salvia is a YES for me.
Although I still see myself smoking it as well. Like someone else said. I'm not sure why I keep getting drawn back to this terrifying substance.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: impaired420]
#23514653 - 08/05/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Salvia is just too uncomfortable for me. I trip really really hard off of smoking it but it's not a pleasant trip like shrooms are. It always triggers an impulse to laugh my ass off but there's nothing funny about it. Good thing a smoked bowl only ever lasted 5 minutes for me.
To think that me and my friends actually had salvia smoking sessions back in the day... Bowl after bowl, it was nuts.
After so long without it, I think I am done with this plant. I'd like it if it was euphoric but it simply isn't.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Canadian Jesus]
#23514680 - 08/05/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's been about 10 years since I've last smoked salvia. I'm a lot experienced with psychedelics these days so I've been curious how I'd handle it now. Def wouldn't mind having a salvia plant around the house.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: gornyhuy]
#23514868 - 08/06/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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gornyhuy said: To anyone that gets mostly creepy fear and malvoleance from Salvia, I suggest you start with plain leaf instead of extracts, and go into it with a really positive calm attitude.
After building up some reverse tolerance I can get really intense breakthrough experiences from just a tiny amount of plainleaf now... I get more of a "jokester" cartoony vibe instead that scary dystopia, and I feel more of a nurturing green goddess presence mostly. However, I still get serious loss of reality, visiting totally other realms, or being torn across the middle with part of me in this realm and part of me in another. I get total amnesia about ever being a personality, a human, ever having a name, it is profound ego/memory loss almost every time.
Plus, if you keep it really lite, there is a definite anti-depressant effect that kicks in very quickly and lasts for days or even a week or more.
This right here is spot on.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: d0urd3n]
#23515050 - 08/06/16 03:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I did 40x with my friend in his car during my sophmore year of high school. I took a huge rip and held it in for the recommended 30 seconds or so. I was actually disappointed at first, I wondered "well...is it gonna kick in?"
All of a sudden my existence completely ceased, I don't know how else to explain it. All I saw, heard, experienced, was pitch black. Eventually 5 of my mouths(yes like my actual mouth that I use to talk IRL), were stacked on top of each other all upside down. They repeatedly uttered the phrase in a strangely distorted version of my own voice "This is *insert my first name*'s mouth right now, This is *insert my first name*'s mouth right now" Over and over and over and over...it felt like an eternity. This was all I was, the only knowledge or purpose my pitiful existence carried. This one visual/auditory hallucination that felt like a life long loop of hell.
I snapped out of it all at once and felt as if I had just awakened from an extended coma. I lost my shit in my friends car and started flailing my arms and legs everywhere. I opened up the door and fell onto the parking lot where we were, gasping for breath. It took a few minutes for me to regain my composure and process what exactly had happened to me. To this day I still don't really understand.
Although I've been offered the substance twice since then, I declined. Maybe it was just a particularly bad experience or I just took too much of too strong a concentrate, but I couldn't forsee myself learning from or enjoying the substance at all.
So yes, I definitely got a creepy vibe from Salvia =/
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: xThunder]
#23515723 - 08/06/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm loving salvias antidepressant effects. I have felt like a million bucks ever since smoking 10x on 1p-lsd 7 days ago. I've been using salvia more often this week, smoking plain leaf and I tried my tincture yesterday...
Love this plant.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: nooneman]
#23521827 - 08/08/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: I would describe it more as "disturbing." Existing as a couch or a conveyor belt or carpet or grass is a disturbing experience. The whole thing is just weird from start to finish.
I know this feeling. It happened to me a few times. I learned from it how potentially all objects that exist could potentially have some sort of self-awareness, or what it would feel like from their point of view if they did have it. Experiencing the world from a roof slate's point of view.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: d0urd3n]
#23521851 - 08/08/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Canadian Jesus said: Salvia is just too uncomfortable for me. I trip really really hard off of smoking it but it's not a pleasant trip like shrooms are. It always triggers an impulse to laugh my ass off but there's nothing funny about it. Good thing a smoked bowl only ever lasted 5 minutes for me.
To think that me and my friends actually had salvia smoking sessions back in the day... Bowl after bowl, it was nuts.
After so long without it, I think I am done with this plant. I'd like it if it was euphoric but it simply isn't.
Salvia trips are what I imagined psychedelics to be when I was a kid. Back in the days I didn't know that classic psychedelics are euphoric. I imagined trips to be wicked, cruel and uncontrollable - just like Salvia.
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gornyhuy said: I feel more of a nurturing green goddess presence mostly.
I saw a female version of a "Green man" once. Face to face. She appeared to be a human/plant hybrid. She was all covered with green bark beads. She wasn't evil, but wasn't there to entertain me either; looked very serious and vigilant. Gave me a lesson about everything that we know that exists, being one big thing. I understand it and can feel it.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#23521902 - 08/08/16 12:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Salvia is certainly strange, I have met lady Salvia and been shown wonders, I have existed as an old Mexican grandfather, a soccer ball, a steel roof, and been completely torn in half by the zipper that separates all. I have also worked in a zipper factory for 5 bizarre minutes. These experiences are stamped onto my conciousness with such clarity and that is in itself frightening.
However, I would go back. It is an uncomparable experience and very worth the terror and pain. (Yes pain, Salvia always made me feel as if my nerves were ablaze.)
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Faustoid]
#23521936 - 08/08/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Salvia definitely has a mild sinister vibe. Especially when used orally. IMO
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: impaired420]
#23521961 - 08/08/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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impaired420 said: I just extracted 3.5g plain leaf in 105proof alcohol 10mL and put a small capfull maybe 2mL total in my mouth for fifteen minutes and had a very pleasant evening. Going to add more leaves to the same tincture in a week because it's still not as strong as I'd like but first impression of buccal administered salvia is a YES for me.
Although I still see myself smoking it as well. Like someone else said. I'm not sure why I keep getting drawn back to this terrifying substance.
yes try 151 next time at least, 190 would be ideal. I made an entry in my journal about the home made tincture experience. I usually use 151 and about 10 grams of leaf/100-150 ml alcohol. I end up with probably around 100 ml of tincture which is quite strong. my usual dose would be around 10-20ml for about 10-15 minutes and i get a very nice trip for about 1-2 hours. I am actually quite amazed how fast it hits and how fast it deepens. AT the 10 minute mark I am definitely tripping getting close to peak. I think many people find salvia disturbing or creepy and straight up terrifying because they jump straight into a level 5-6 experience using all this extracts 40x 60x... now I'm not saying they don;t have their use but subligual is where it's at in my opinion. It leaves you actually some room to do some work on yourself rather than just blow you to pieces across the universe .... I am sure the reverse tolerance is a factor in my experience...
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: impaired420]
#23522041 - 08/08/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Although I will say that I adore salvia, it's the most obscure, hard to understand substance that I have taken yet.
It's very uncomfortable, moreso in body than in mind to me. It gives me this deep internal discomfort in my neck and upper back/shoulders. I've never taken it orally, but when I smoke it, it makes me feel like what I'd imagine going mad feels like. Not to mention, afterwards, I feel like I just crawled out of the insane asylum, eyes wide and hair tangled and on end.
The most peculiar thing about it in my opinion is how it distorts sound. While it's hard to pull up memories of the salvia trip, I have recalled every time how it makes it seem as though sound is all occurring simultaneously even after one has stopped, and every new sound introduced produces a sensation of a constant ringing afterwards that melds together with the rest of the sounds I hear until I finally come to.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: MythObscuro]
#23522166 - 08/08/16 02:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh yes while on salvia one has the most primordial responses to sound and music imho. You reach a very peculiar state where everything becomes one unified field, where music/sound/body/mind fuse together into a single stream flowing. It's really hard to explain salvia states to somebody that was never there. Like somebody mentioned at some point that it was a "piano key" or a "post in a fence" it is really hard to explain. No doubt the Salvia effects are unique( from being and object to immaterial existence and everything in between) and some of the hardest heads can't stomach it's visions sometime. These experiences can be very disturbing to the unprepared explorer...
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23522208 - 08/08/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I used to chainsmoke Salvia extract a few years back. I also did a lot of quids while lying around in the backyard at night. Great substance, but it will kick your ass if you aren't careful, and it will kick it even if you're careful.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: jds]
#23522295 - 08/08/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Haha true. It will kick your ass regardless.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Peyote Road]
#23523431 - 08/08/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have only smoked the extract, and that was a long time ago, I didn't like the feeling it gave me, so never indulged in it again.
I have read the plain leaves are better though, the extracts are to strong.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Lucis]
#23523742 - 08/09/16 12:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quid method is the way to go with this sacred plant. It is a great teacher and will give you the trip of your life if you do it right lol. I'm talking waking dream type visions
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Rhizomorpheus]
#23523858 - 08/09/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Rhizomorpheus said: Quid method is the way to go with this sacred plant. It is a great teacher and will give you the trip of your life if you do it right lol. I'm talking waking dream type visions

Interesting.
Obviously I could Google it, however, I will ask.
Onset? Length?
Mayhap an interesting tale of madness and mayhem related to your proofs of the marvelousness of this method of consumption?
(Not to derail the thread, but my curiosity is peaked)
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: Faustoid]
#23523867 - 08/09/16 01:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Faustoid said:
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Rhizomorpheus said: Quid method is the way to go with this sacred plant. It is a great teacher and will give you the trip of your life if you do it right lol. I'm talking waking dream type visions

Interesting.
Obviously I could Google it, however, I will ask.
Onset? Length?
Mayhap an interesting tale of madness and mayhem related to your proofs of the marvelousness of this method of consumption?
(Not to derail the thread, but my curiosity is peaked)
I concur. I don;t quid usually make my own tincture. but is the same experience. lasts considerably longer, around 1 hour and half. onset about 10-20 minutes depending on the dose and the strength. It has a lot to teach.
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Re: Anyone else think there is something a little creepy about salvia? [Re: amonra]
#23524206 - 08/09/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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amonra said: lasts considerably longer, around 1 hour and half. onset about 10-20 minutes depending on the dose and the strength. It has a lot to teach.
Oh wow, I had no idea it could last that long. I have always been fascinated with Mexican shaman, this all started with reading about Maria Sabina, then from there reading about the healers of Mexico harvesting Salvia, cool stuff. I think if I were to have leaves which were harvested properly, then it might be a different story.
I have never had any adverse reactions to any plant when consumed properly, which for me means blessing before consumption, and the least amount of processing before use. I feel like modern culture puts a bad feeling onto many sacred plants, and this corrupts their potential, this is why my experiences with Salvia extract were poor, because those extracts are made for one reason only, to get you as high as possible, as quickly as possible, which doesn't seem right to me.
The extract I had lasted 10-20 mins, with the first minutes being the strongest, and after that feeling like I took drugs which I didn't vibe well with, such a dirty feeling. But I read on shroomery that the leaves are the way to go, and it's a whole different experience to have when compared to the extracts. I think there's potential with Salvia, but I think it would be one of those plants where less of it, would be the proper dose, as apposed to taking large amounts at once, which is where people have bad experiences.
I never had a truly bad experience, just didn't like the way I felt, but I was with a kid who took a bong rip, held it in as long as possible, then upon exhaling starting to drool profusely, then have what can only be described as a mild seizure, which really freaked me out. When he came too, he said it was a very humbling experience, understandably so.
I have read some really beautiful trip reports here, and on other sites, regarding Salvia, and it having a mellow and pleasant effect on the psychonaut, that sounds nice.
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