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What would it take for you to be a racist?
#23473414 - 07/24/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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White people believed for centuries that black people were literally inferior. If you showed someone a random restaurant in New York City from today two hundred years ago, they would think it was a joke. If you were able to break through their imbecilic logic and explain to them why all races are equal it would completely blow their world apart. They would have no idea how to proceed.
But what if the opposite happened? What if we found unequivocal evidence that one race was inferior? I'll use a random group nobody cares about... Sri Lankans.
So what if Sri Lankans were literally dumber than every other race? Would it matter? Would racism be acceptable if there was proof they were worse? We obviously don't treat dogs or cats with as much care and "sacredness" as we do with human life. If a race were inferior, would they get some status in-between animals and humans? Should we make laws giving them special protections the way we do with disabled groups?
Discuss intelligently
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: bloodsheen] 1
#23473423 - 07/24/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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bloodsheen said: White people believed for centuries that black people were literally inferior. If you showed someone a random restaurant in New York City from today two hundred years ago, they would think it was a joke. If you were able to break through their imbecilic logic and explain to them why all races are equal it would completely blow their world apart. They would have no idea how to proceed.
But what if the opposite happened? What if we found unequivocal evidence that one race was inferior? I'll use a random group nobody cares about... Sri Lankans.
So what if Sri Lankans were literally dumber than every other race? Would it matter? Would racism be acceptable if there was proof they were worse? We obviously don't treat dogs or cats with as much care and "sacredness" as we do with human life. If a race were inferior, would they get some status in-between animals and humans? Should we make laws giving them special protections the way we do with disabled groups?
Discuss intelligently
Don't we already offer special programs like Affirmative Action and quotas for a specific race?
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: bloodsheen]
#23473429 - 07/24/16 08:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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This post makes me feel racist OP. Why must you invoke these feelings within me?
I mean, this post has me wandering if I should feverently now support Trump or join black lives matter...such confusion now...
My point being,racism is created when one talks about racial problems, either real or perceived , and typically by the accusing race.If it wasn't the color of our skin that people hated on, it would be something else...
Why can't we all just hit a bong?
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: qman]
#23473438 - 07/24/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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If arabic people were mosquitoes, sucking my blood and trying to slowly murder me, then yeah. Terrorists exist but fortunately people aren't that black and white.(pun intended) Basing your racial bias on intelligence then projecting that superiority complex to the point where you say they are all disabled seems Nazi-esque. Racism is an asshole's perspective. I am not an asshole, but fuck do I hate mosquitoes.
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: bloodsheen] 1
#23473456 - 07/24/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Race and culture are closely related. Discovering that one race is less advances than the rest wouldn't be too surprising actually depending on where they're from and how advanced the society in that particular area has gotten due to other factors such as resources, lack of information, etc.
I was jumped by a lot of black people but I still understand that not all 'black' people are like that and that there are many respectable and intelligent 'black' people that I can communicate with and relate to intellectually. I could call them niggers but that would just be another word for stupidity I suppose.
As far as giving cats and dogs special protections, I think we should focus on taking care of ourselves first which involves taking care of the planet which involves taking care of the animals (this is assuming we no longer deal with race and have a more open mind-set as a species). I feel that would be the "special" protection and even though we recognize them as equals, it's only common instinct to take care of the ones closest to you first.
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: qman]
#23473480 - 07/24/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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bloodsheen said: White people believed for centuries that black people were literally inferior. If you showed someone a random restaurant in New York City from today two hundred years ago, they would think it was a joke. If you were able to break through their imbecilic logic and explain to them why all races are equal it would completely blow their world apart. They would have no idea how to proceed.
But what if the opposite happened? What if we found unequivocal evidence that one race was inferior? I'll use a random group nobody cares about... Sri Lankans.
So what if Sri Lankans were literally dumber than every other race? Would it matter? Would racism be acceptable if there was proof they were worse? We obviously don't treat dogs or cats with as much care and "sacredness" as we do with human life. If a race were inferior, would they get some status in-between animals and humans? Should we make laws giving them special protections the way we do with disabled groups?
Discuss intelligently
Don't we already offer special programs like Affirmative Action and quotas for a specific race?
But my whole point is that isn't a fair comparison because all races are genetically equal, basically. Those were an attempt to fix a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place. But if there was actual truth in that inequality...?
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: bloodsheen] 2
#23473517 - 07/24/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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bloodsheen said: Discuss intelligently
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: bloodsheen]
#23473519 - 07/24/16 08:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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bloodsheen said:
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bloodsheen said: White people believed for centuries that black people were literally inferior. If you showed someone a random restaurant in New York City from today two hundred years ago, they would think it was a joke. If you were able to break through their imbecilic logic and explain to them why all races are equal it would completely blow their world apart. They would have no idea how to proceed.
But what if the opposite happened? What if we found unequivocal evidence that one race was inferior? I'll use a random group nobody cares about... Sri Lankans.
So what if Sri Lankans were literally dumber than every other race? Would it matter? Would racism be acceptable if there was proof they were worse? We obviously don't treat dogs or cats with as much care and "sacredness" as we do with human life. If a race were inferior, would they get some status in-between animals and humans? Should we make laws giving them special protections the way we do with disabled groups?
Discuss intelligently
Don't we already offer special programs like Affirmative Action and quotas for a specific race?
But my whole point is that isn't a fair comparison because all races are genetically equal, basically. Those were an attempt to fix a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place. But if there was actual truth in that inequality...?
"all races are genetically equal, basically."
No they are not "equal" because they are different genetically. It doesn't mean one race is superior, but it could mean one race is better at functioning in modern society than another race.
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: qman]
#23473523 - 07/24/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No they are not "equal" because they are different genetically. It doesn't mean one race is superior, but it could mean one race is better at functioning in modern society than another race.
Lets assume your premise is 100% correct. What then? What do we do with those that aren't as good at functioning in society?
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: qman]
#23473524 - 07/24/16 08:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Or more well adapted for particular climates or athletic functions. Superiority is often relative.
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: bloodsheen] 2
#23473527 - 07/24/16 08:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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growing up watching KKK rallies, men marching through town in full uniform wielding shotguns and signs of hate, i think it would take a lot for me to develop racist tendencies. racism is ignorance, through and through. i also grew up in a mixed neighborhood with lots of mexicans and kurds, and worked for 4+ years in an environment of white/black/asian/eastern european people (from teenagers to adults, some going on elderly)
i've seen the best and worst of all kinds of people. all people, as a whole, are equally good and shitty; it comes down to the specific person
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: bloodsheen]
#23473547 - 07/24/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No they are not "equal" because they are different genetically. It doesn't mean one race is superior, but it could mean one race is better at functioning in modern society than another race.
Lets assume your premise is 100% correct. What then? What do we do with those that aren't as good at functioning in society?
No other choice other than what we are doing, put them in prison if they commit crimes.
They could also be deported, it's better than genocide.
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: qman] 1
#23473585 - 07/24/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No they are not "equal" because they are different genetically. It doesn't mean one race is superior, but it could mean one race is better at functioning in modern society than another race.
Lets assume your premise is 100% correct. What then? What do we do with those that aren't as good at functioning in society?
No other choice other than what we are doing, put them in prison if they commit crimes.
They could also be deported, it's better than genocide.
...Im suddenly feeling like we aren't on the same page here...
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: bloodsheen]
#23473592 - 07/24/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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No they are not "equal" because they are different genetically. It doesn't mean one race is superior, but it could mean one race is better at functioning in modern society than another race.
Lets assume your premise is 100% correct. What then? What do we do with those that aren't as good at functioning in society?
No other choice other than what we are doing, put them in prison if they commit crimes.
They could also be deported, it's better than genocide.
...Im suddenly feeling like we aren't on the same page here...
Well, what alternatives do you see if the premise is correct?
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: qman]
#23473599 - 07/24/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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"No other choice other than what we are doing" kinda bothers me somehow. Fitting into society doesn't have to be just about crime, autistic people do a really shitty job at fitting into society but they rarely commit crimes
Idk man, I can't remember if I ever got racists vibes off of you before. I feel like you took it like 7 levels higher than I was thinking lol
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: demiu5] 1
#23473605 - 07/24/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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demiu5 said: racism is ignorance, through and through.
no, racism is a personal philosophy that could be based in a multitude of influencing factors such as friends, family and life experiences, to write it off as simply ignorance is in fact ignorance
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23473627 - 07/24/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah there's really no point in arguing that Pris. Telling me the bad man touched you isn't an excuse for misandry. That would be ignorance. People vary, and anyone who doesn't understand that, is ignorant of a blatant fact. Someone stereotyping me or you to the point of hate wouldn't be well recieved and I see no reason for you to argue that aside from you looking for something to argue about.
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: larry.fisherman]
#23473646 - 07/24/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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so everyone stereotyping cops is because those doing the stereotyping are ignorant
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23473654 - 07/24/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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bloodsheen said: "No other choice other than what we are doing" kinda bothers me somehow. Fitting into society doesn't have to be just about crime, autistic people do a really shitty job at fitting into society but they rarely commit crimes
Idk man, I can't remember if I ever got racists vibes off of you before. I feel like you took it like 7 levels higher than I was thinking lol
You asked what to do with people that don't function in a modern society, I think it goes beyond not "fitting into society" in many cases.
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Re: What would it take for you to be a racist? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#23473655 - 07/24/16 09:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: so everyone stereotyping cops is because those doing the stereotyping are ignorant
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