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Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear?
    #23472314 - 07/24/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Part of the reason I'm interested in such things is to discover new things about myself and to perform mental changes in myself.

One weakness I have as a person is I'm too reserved and fear based. I've always been like this.

So which psychedelic is best for controlling fear/anxiety etc? I believe altered states can have lasting impacts if done correctly.

I've heard MDMA is good for this, any others?


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper] * 4
    #23472325 - 07/24/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For me, LSD and psilocybin have invoked fear, but not in a bad way necessarily. But I believe conventional wisdom is that MDMA and probably to a lesser degree mescaline are more "therapeutic".

I find mescaline serene.
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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Bozko]
    #23472336 - 07/24/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

MDMA if done responsibly.

Other psychs are pretty good at catalysing fear sometimes :wink:


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23472396 - 07/24/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I could see using a small ammount of MDMA before and also maybe during a LSD or mushroom trip to help rid anxiety. I wouldnt do too much because id want to feel the LSD/mush and not have the fake empathy you get from rolling.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23472489 - 07/24/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: MushroomAreTheKey]
    #23472598 - 07/24/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think OP means he/she is trying to be more outgoing and open and less fearful.
If this is the case all psychedelics can help with this, but I think mescalin is a good one for this because you stay clear minded during it and its kind of euphoric yet still self reflective. I'm sure good shroom trips could also be beneficial in this respect.

I'm sure MDMA can be good too, thing is u can't take it often without possible damage to your brain(serotonin or something), also finding you run the risk of ur MDMA being not what its sold as.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23472662 - 07/24/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Part of the reason I'm interested in such things is to discover new things about myself and to perform mental changes in myself.

One weakness I have as a person is I'm too reserved and fear based. I've always been like this.

So which psychedelic is best for controlling fear/anxiety etc? I believe altered states can have lasting impacts if done correctly.

I've heard MDMA is good for this, any others?




Do you mean that you have social anxiety? That you experience fear and anxiety in social situations?


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: healing]
    #23472679 - 07/24/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say it's more like, I'm too cautious, I always assume the worst will happen.

When I was little I was terrified of monsters and shit. Obviously I'm not anymore lol but fear definitely is a part of my inner psyche that I would like to address using psychedelics. I want to learn how to put my mind at peace.

As I got older, this manifested it's self In a  combative personality. But yes, various forms of anxiety have been things I've dealt with in my life. Including social anxiety. I have 75% of my anxiety under control now.

Regarding mescaline, how do you buy San Pedro online? The one site I like for stuff like this seems to be sold out


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23472800 - 07/24/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i think you should try shrooms+benzos combo


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23472808 - 07/24/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'd say it's more like, I'm too cautious, I always assume the worst will happen.

When I was little I was terrified of monsters and shit. Obviously I'm not anymore lol but fear definitely is a part of my inner psyche that I would like to address using psychedelics. I want to learn how to put my mind at peace.

As I got older, this manifested it's self In a  combative personality. But yes, various forms of anxiety have been things I've dealt with in my life. Including social anxiety. I have 75% of my anxiety under control now.

Regarding mescaline, how do you buy San Pedro online? The one site I like for stuff like this seems to be sold out




Do you have problems with trusting other people?

Check eBay for san pedro cuttings, you'll usually get the best prices there.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: healing]
    #23472932 - 07/24/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For controlling fear and what not in general life I feel like DMT is a great way to reduce fear and anxieties in regular everyday life. A breakthrough experience is pretty amazing/terrifying experience when it first happens but afterwards its like you've gone through DMT hyperspace you can conquer anything at least in IMHO


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: CosmicCharlie420]
    #23472965 - 07/24/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i feel like dmt is more for experienced psychedelic users, a long lasting psych is easier to integrate after and during the trip its easier to analyze oneself because it comes on slow and steady.
just do a bit of research its pretty easy to find online, and if u live in the right place u can find it in plant nurseries, i've tripped off of cactus from people's yards, from plant nursery cuts and etc.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23472966 - 07/24/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Welcome to the Shroomery :mushroom2:

As for controlling your fear I would have to say LSD. LSD allows you to inspect your thoughts and emotions, which then allows you to dive in deeper and confront the real reasons behind your apprehensions.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: healing]
    #23473203 - 07/24/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea. I never open up. I'm OK with talking about stuff but when it comes to me? Forget it


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Sham87]
    #23473205 - 07/24/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you feel fear and conquer it on lsd, it can be very psychologically empowering. As I wrote that I feel that it is the same for all relatively safe classical psychedelics. Mdma is sweet with tripping to give it a very personalized focus. I feel it should be taken in a candy flip like 3- 4 hours into your lsd/shrooms/2cb/whatever to allow yourself a chance to see if there is any fear, and to see how you deal with it.

When u trip, having the option to take mdma, or a light benzo (never have) really made uncomfortable feeling seems way more manageable then just being off with nothing.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23473244 - 07/24/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea. I never open up. I'm OK with talking about stuff but when it comes to me? Forget it




I definitely think that psychedelics could help you, but I think you're going to need to do a lot more work than just taking a drug and hoping for the best. If that's all you do there's even a possibility that it could make things worse.

Maybe you could get some books on the psychology of interpersonal relationships and trust, and do a bit of studying before and after your trip.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23473442 - 07/24/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Part of the reason I'm interested in such things is to discover new things about myself and to perform mental changes in myself.

One weakness I have as a person is I'm too reserved and fear based. I've always been like this.

So which psychedelic is best for controlling fear/anxiety etc? I believe altered states can have lasting impacts if done correctly.

I've heard MDMA is good for this, any others?




LSD.  You need to face your fears, not avoid them.  If you don't, you will always have problems.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23473871 - 07/24/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Mushrooms have helped me grow and develop the most as a person. LSD has helped me as an artist more so. Mushrooms seemed to tell me what I need to know. They might be mean to you but they have made me overall more loving, understanding, brave, worry free. LSD has made me more goofy, strange, outrageous, tolerant, my true self. I think either one would show you the light just in different ways. LSD kind of washes me in the light and you just live within it, mushrooms have shown me the darkness within that is blocking the light while navigating me through the darkness while supplying me a map to the light in the long run. Overall I feel like the mushrooms would help you more, especially if you do them with someone who is willing to listen to you and not judge but provide rational reasoning.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23474158 - 07/25/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I definitely think that psychedelics could help you, but I think you're going to need to do a lot more work than just taking a drug and hoping for the best.




+1

i have exactly the same issue like as Hyper.
I thought that by just taking shrooms it would help me solve all my problems.
But It is not the case. They only showed me the source of my fear/anxiety but i have to resolve it myself.
It is getting better.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Bozko]
    #23474187 - 07/25/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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For me, LSD and psilocybin have invoked fear, but not in a bad way necessarily. But I believe conventional wisdom is that MDMA and probably to a lesser degree mescaline are more "therapeutic".

I find mescaline serene.
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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: superbob57]
    #23474243 - 07/25/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The problem with MDMA is the short duration, toxic down down and forceful positive nature meaning it can be difficult to experience and release certain emotions because you feel so pushed into the articially happy state.

thats why I recommend using both mushrooms (or LSD) and MDMA. Not at the same time but back to back.

The mushrooms will help open you up, loosen your ego while the MDMA will help you face the emotional material that arises after the shrooms have opened your mind. I mean like use on of them one weekend and the other the next weekend.

When I took MDMA before I was experienced with mushrooms/LSD I blocked out all the negative emotional material and just enjoyed the buzz from MDMA. Taking mushrooms helped me learn not to supress so when I took MDMA again after that, I got a lot more out of it. Basically mushrooms taught me how to use the psychedelic state for healing and I was able to carry that over to MDMA.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23474266 - 07/25/16 01:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

IME it varies by fear.
Of death? Smoked DMT or really high dose mushrooms
Of people/socially related? MDMA or higher dose Syrian rue
Of speaking? Weed
Anything else: Ayahuasca


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: crissel]
    #23474568 - 07/25/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I definitely think that psychedelics could help you, but I think you're going to need to do a lot more work than just taking a drug and hoping for the best.




+1

i have exactly the same issue like as Hyper.
I thought that by just taking shrooms it would help me solve all my problems.
But It is not the case. They only showed me the source of my fear/anxiety but i have to resolve it myself.
It is getting better.




This is pretty much what I'm trying to do. I need to see the sources.

I'm also pretty good at meditation and visualization.

My plan is to use this skill combined with psychedelics to make it feel more real.

I have not really used psychedelics before. I am interested in them in a general way but this is one of my main intents with them, self discovery.

I think that by visualizing things with fear turned down, I may be able to "rewire" my brain to not use fear so much.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23474582 - 07/25/16 06:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Probably salvia. Pack a big bowl of it in a bong and rip that shit really really hard!
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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: SyzygisticSoul]
    #23474613 - 07/25/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Lol I'm joking; I def wouldn't recommend you doing salvia... Honestly, I don't know if i'd recommend anyone to do salvia, especially if the are looking for a nice smooth trip.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23477975 - 07/26/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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IME it varies by fear.
Of death? Smoked DMT or really high dose mushrooms
Of people/socially related? MDMA or higher dose Syrian rue
Of speaking? Weed
Anything else: Ayahuasca





I havent tried syrian rue and I wasnt aware it  helped with social fear, can you elaborate on this thanks you?


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #23478106 - 07/26/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Dont mean force with force, absorb it and use its power.  No drugs required.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23478124 - 07/26/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Psychedelics are not going to fix you, they might drop your guard long enough so that you can see what you have to work on, but you will have to put in the work to overcome your psychological issues, with a sober mind, this will forge lasting change within your psyche.

When we try to fix our problems by drowning it in experiences, we're only getting a temporary fix, like you might have a bad day and go to a concert to let off some steam, but those problems are still going to be there when the music fades.


Anyway, I think the major psychedelics are wonderful for growth, and for myself have found them to be wonderful when I trip alone, and am able to really look within myself without the outside stimuli of a trip buddy.  It was LSD that I was taking when I was in my early teen years, which showed me the dangers of many things in my life, mushrooms and mescaline were the two which have provided me with the most insight though.

My life was completely changed in 2009 from a mushrooms trip, then a couple years after that I had a mescaline trip which brought many things into focus, so those two hold a special place in my heart, plus I like the fact that they grow from the earth, no need to have man made junk involved in acquiring the sacraments from them.

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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Bozko]
    #23478222 - 07/26/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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For me, LSD and psilocybin have invoked fear, but not in a bad way necessarily. But I believe conventional wisdom is that MDMA and probably to a lesser degree mescaline are more "therapeutic".

I find mescaline serene.
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I've never met anyone who said MDMA was more "therapeutic" than LSD or mushrooms especially mushrooms. MDMA is nowhere near as therapeutic as psilocybin.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23478233 - 07/26/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'd say it's more like, I'm too cautious, I always assume the worst will happen.

When I was little I was terrified of monsters and shit. Obviously I'm not anymore lol but fear definitely is a part of my inner psyche that I would like to address using psychedelics. I want to learn how to put my mind at peace.




Yea I would hands down go with mushrooms.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23478250 - 07/26/16 10:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've never met anyone who said MDMA was more "therapeutic" than LSD or mushrooms especially mushrooms. MDMA is nowhere near as therapeutic as psilocybin.





That might be true for some, but not for everyone.

Look at soldiers who have received MDMA for PTSD, seems promising, now I don't think mushrooms would be good to give them because this could put them in a very negative mindset, cause a very awful bad trip.


http://www.maps.org/news/media/5056-ex-soldiers-are-being-given-mdma-to-help-them-manage-ptsd

Also, further reading on therapeutic use of psychedelics.

http://www.maps.org/research


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Lucis]
    #23478269 - 07/26/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

How does it curing soldiers of PTSD mean it's more therapeutic? Sure it's more "therapeutic" than most drugs but come on it's nowhere near psilocybin.
MDMA for the most part only works that way when it is assisted with therapy. Mushrooms however ARE the therapy. Taking MDMA on your own is probably not going to be that therapeutic.

Also I've had healing experiences on mushrooms that would blow any MDMA experience out of the water. That's like saying MDMA is more healing than ayahuasca. It's just BS and since MDMA feels good it's just easy for people to say.

Mushrooms and Ayahuasca actually have the ability to purge negative emotions and memories that are bottled up and I don't care what you say this does not happen on MDMA. I'm talking literally too, if you actually have the experience you would see how healing and amazing it is. Visually you are shown a painful memory and you have to accept it and after you accept it and relive it it is completely purged from your memory and you can no longer even remember it or picture it in your mind. It's like a magical process.

I bet if they used ayahuasca or mushrooms on the soldiers the results would have been even more successful.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23478575 - 07/26/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

SSRI is just an antidepressant.  Bandaid fix just like all medicine these days.


Psychedelics in combination with therapy will deal with the root cause.  Common knowledge 60 years ago. Govt had to ban it.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23478727 - 07/26/16 01:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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How does it curing soldiers of PTSD mean it's more therapeutic? Sure it's more "therapeutic" than most drugs but come on it's nowhere near psilocybin.




I disagree. MDMA can help people get in touch with a deep empathy that is real and therapeutic. Mushrooms can be abused just as easily as any "synthetic drug". It is super tempting to get caught up in the synthetic vs natural argument and have preconceived notions about what all these drugs do, but because of their very nature the experiences they cause are probably more subject to interpretation than anything else and can be warped by expectation.

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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Bozko]
    #23480392 - 07/26/16 09:51 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I disagree. MDMA can help people get in touch with a deep empathy that is real and therapeutic. Mushrooms can be abused just as easily as any "synthetic drug". It is super tempting to get caught up in the synthetic vs natural argument and have preconceived notions about what all these drugs do




Are you serious? No it's not because it's natural it's because ayahuasca and mushrooms are commonly known as very healing and therapeutic drugs. In fact they are probably the most therapeutic drugs on the planet. As I said before MDMA is therapeutic with therapy, mushrooms however are the therapy.

How can you realistically disagree with that? And how can you really bring up the synthetic vs natural argument and not see what I'm really saying?

Listen I'm not saying MDMA isn't therapeutic. It's more therapeutic than pot and that's natural. I'm just saying when you compare it to something like mushrooms which is arguably the most therapeutic substance on the planet I'm obviously gonna favor the mushrooms.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23480421 - 07/26/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I mean not the most therapeutic in the world but if not then pretty close. I haven't done things like ayahuasca but I'm pretty sure psilocybin is right up there with iboga, mescaline and ayahuasca in terms of therapeutic potential. They're all arguably the most therapeutic substances we as humans have.

My point is you're comparing something that is moderately therapeutic to something that I would call or consider "explicitly therapeutic"


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23480494 - 07/26/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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As I said before MDMA is therapeutic with therapy, mushrooms however are the therapy.





I think you would need to provide some sources on that.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: healing]
    #23480659 - 07/26/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's my opinion.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23480773 - 07/26/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Dude, among my group I am the one championing psychedelics and encouraging everyone to lay off of e, so I totally feel you on the "psychedelics provide real healing" thing. But at some point, I feel there is a machismo involved (with me) at having to have things the "hard" way. I've seen people experience transformation from e, and it has helped me understand the point of gentleness and empathy in this existence more than psychedelics have.

Sorry to bring up the natural vs synth thing falsely. Why would you pick mushrooms over LSD as more therapeutic?


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23480830 - 07/26/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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It's my opinion.




Then you should be able to understand when someone disagrees with you.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: healing]
    #23480880 - 07/27/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I try to avoid fear during any trips, shrooms in general are smooth though, lsd is out there and dmt can be way too much to fast, but be responsible and you might be surprised as everyones different. Etizolam can elimate some pre-trip anxiety.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Bozko]
    #23482777 - 07/27/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Sorry to bring up the natural vs synth thing falsely. Why would you pick mushrooms over LSD as more therapeutic?




Mushrooms. And not because they're natural but just because they feel healing to me. Same way things like iboga and ayahuasca are revered as "healing" and apparently san pedro as well so yes I would say mushrooms.

It's not because L is synthetic though. I actually find LSD better for nature than mushrooms.

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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23484305 - 07/28/16 12:50 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Referring to my first trip with Psilocybin, I was having the time of my life, so along with it I had a strong sense of fearlessness, but I guess its all up to individual preference, well graded MDMA in a therapeutic setting would be beneficial to anxiety issues, as long as you bring common sense along with you.

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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Rollin.n.Strollin]
    #23494345 - 07/31/16 01:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think all psychedelics will bring your fear to the surface, in my experience: mostly before doing them, and perhaps while tuning in... arm yourself with good observational/self-calming skills via meditation, make sure you can go with the flow, don't be careless... and you have nothing to fear :smile: (but fear itself!)

But you will fear (I do), every time, and each time you get through it you'll understand yourself better. You can't *control* fear (without becoming somewhat psychorigid) - but being able not to let it take you over/sweep you away - being able to keep it in its place - this happens through facing it.

So I say: all psychedelics will help you help yourself here. I agree with those who mentioned cactus as having a particular calming presence of mind, kind of grandfatherly - but it can be a long experience. Shrooms get more & more chill the more comfortable you are with yourself. But it takes work, the odd hard-time.

Also: heavy heavy metal (not necessarily when you're not tripping) :smile:


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: MushroomAreTheKey]
    #23494786 - 07/31/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Weed lol




This.

Probably the best drug for controlling fear is tobacco. But that isn't psychedelic. Weed stops me from neurotic/nervous fears.

Mushrooms took away my fear of death, which is arguably the basis of all fears.

MDMA helped me with fear of intimacy.

Mescaline took away fears relating to submission and depression.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: viktor]
    #23495417 - 07/31/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: dodmtdolsd]
    #23495500 - 07/31/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I can only quote one of my favorite films, The Empire Strikes Back.

Luke: What's in there?
Yoda: Only what you take with you...

That's how I feel about fear and psychedelics. If you bring the baggage with you, it will rise up to challenge your primitive, mortal, confused mind. The battle is unavoidable, there is no flight, only fight.

But when you emerge from the cave, you will be filled with light.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: LoneLobo]
    #23497610 - 08/01/16 05:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Luke: What's in there?
Yoda: Only what you take with you...

That's how I feel about fear and psychedelics. If you bring the baggage with you, it will rise up to challenge your primitive, mortal, confused mind. The battle is unavoidable, there is no flight, only fight.

But when you emerge from the cave, you will be filled with light.




that's fucking beautiful.


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