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Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear?
    #23472314 - 07/24/16 01:06 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Part of the reason I'm interested in such things is to discover new things about myself and to perform mental changes in myself.

One weakness I have as a person is I'm too reserved and fear based. I've always been like this.

So which psychedelic is best for controlling fear/anxiety etc? I believe altered states can have lasting impacts if done correctly.

I've heard MDMA is good for this, any others?


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper] * 4
    #23472325 - 07/24/16 01:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For me, LSD and psilocybin have invoked fear, but not in a bad way necessarily. But I believe conventional wisdom is that MDMA and probably to a lesser degree mescaline are more "therapeutic".

I find mescaline serene.
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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Bozko]
    #23472336 - 07/24/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

MDMA if done responsibly.

Other psychs are pretty good at catalysing fear sometimes :wink:


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
    #23472396 - 07/24/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I could see using a small ammount of MDMA before and also maybe during a LSD or mushroom trip to help rid anxiety. I wouldnt do too much because id want to feel the LSD/mush and not have the fake empathy you get from rolling.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: SonicTitan]
    #23472489 - 07/24/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: MushroomAreTheKey]
    #23472598 - 07/24/16 03:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I think OP means he/she is trying to be more outgoing and open and less fearful.
If this is the case all psychedelics can help with this, but I think mescalin is a good one for this because you stay clear minded during it and its kind of euphoric yet still self reflective. I'm sure good shroom trips could also be beneficial in this respect.

I'm sure MDMA can be good too, thing is u can't take it often without possible damage to your brain(serotonin or something), also finding you run the risk of ur MDMA being not what its sold as.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23472662 - 07/24/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Hyper said:
Part of the reason I'm interested in such things is to discover new things about myself and to perform mental changes in myself.

One weakness I have as a person is I'm too reserved and fear based. I've always been like this.

So which psychedelic is best for controlling fear/anxiety etc? I believe altered states can have lasting impacts if done correctly.

I've heard MDMA is good for this, any others?




Do you mean that you have social anxiety? That you experience fear and anxiety in social situations?


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: healing]
    #23472679 - 07/24/16 03:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'd say it's more like, I'm too cautious, I always assume the worst will happen.

When I was little I was terrified of monsters and shit. Obviously I'm not anymore lol but fear definitely is a part of my inner psyche that I would like to address using psychedelics. I want to learn how to put my mind at peace.

As I got older, this manifested it's self In a  combative personality. But yes, various forms of anxiety have been things I've dealt with in my life. Including social anxiety. I have 75% of my anxiety under control now.

Regarding mescaline, how do you buy San Pedro online? The one site I like for stuff like this seems to be sold out


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23472800 - 07/24/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i think you should try shrooms+benzos combo


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23472808 - 07/24/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'd say it's more like, I'm too cautious, I always assume the worst will happen.

When I was little I was terrified of monsters and shit. Obviously I'm not anymore lol but fear definitely is a part of my inner psyche that I would like to address using psychedelics. I want to learn how to put my mind at peace.

As I got older, this manifested it's self In a  combative personality. But yes, various forms of anxiety have been things I've dealt with in my life. Including social anxiety. I have 75% of my anxiety under control now.

Regarding mescaline, how do you buy San Pedro online? The one site I like for stuff like this seems to be sold out




Do you have problems with trusting other people?

Check eBay for san pedro cuttings, you'll usually get the best prices there.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: healing]
    #23472932 - 07/24/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

For controlling fear and what not in general life I feel like DMT is a great way to reduce fear and anxieties in regular everyday life. A breakthrough experience is pretty amazing/terrifying experience when it first happens but afterwards its like you've gone through DMT hyperspace you can conquer anything at least in IMHO


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: CosmicCharlie420]
    #23472965 - 07/24/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

i feel like dmt is more for experienced psychedelic users, a long lasting psych is easier to integrate after and during the trip its easier to analyze oneself because it comes on slow and steady.
just do a bit of research its pretty easy to find online, and if u live in the right place u can find it in plant nurseries, i've tripped off of cactus from people's yards, from plant nursery cuts and etc.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23472966 - 07/24/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Welcome to the Shroomery :mushroom2:

As for controlling your fear I would have to say LSD. LSD allows you to inspect your thoughts and emotions, which then allows you to dive in deeper and confront the real reasons behind your apprehensions.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: healing]
    #23473203 - 07/24/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yea. I never open up. I'm OK with talking about stuff but when it comes to me? Forget it


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Sham87]
    #23473205 - 07/24/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you feel fear and conquer it on lsd, it can be very psychologically empowering. As I wrote that I feel that it is the same for all relatively safe classical psychedelics. Mdma is sweet with tripping to give it a very personalized focus. I feel it should be taken in a candy flip like 3- 4 hours into your lsd/shrooms/2cb/whatever to allow yourself a chance to see if there is any fear, and to see how you deal with it.

When u trip, having the option to take mdma, or a light benzo (never have) really made uncomfortable feeling seems way more manageable then just being off with nothing.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23473244 - 07/24/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Yea. I never open up. I'm OK with talking about stuff but when it comes to me? Forget it




I definitely think that psychedelics could help you, but I think you're going to need to do a lot more work than just taking a drug and hoping for the best. If that's all you do there's even a possibility that it could make things worse.

Maybe you could get some books on the psychology of interpersonal relationships and trust, and do a bit of studying before and after your trip.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Hyper]
    #23473442 - 07/24/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Part of the reason I'm interested in such things is to discover new things about myself and to perform mental changes in myself.

One weakness I have as a person is I'm too reserved and fear based. I've always been like this.

So which psychedelic is best for controlling fear/anxiety etc? I believe altered states can have lasting impacts if done correctly.

I've heard MDMA is good for this, any others?




LSD.  You need to face your fears, not avoid them.  If you don't, you will always have problems.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23473871 - 07/24/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Mushrooms have helped me grow and develop the most as a person. LSD has helped me as an artist more so. Mushrooms seemed to tell me what I need to know. They might be mean to you but they have made me overall more loving, understanding, brave, worry free. LSD has made me more goofy, strange, outrageous, tolerant, my true self. I think either one would show you the light just in different ways. LSD kind of washes me in the light and you just live within it, mushrooms have shown me the darkness within that is blocking the light while navigating me through the darkness while supplying me a map to the light in the long run. Overall I feel like the mushrooms would help you more, especially if you do them with someone who is willing to listen to you and not judge but provide rational reasoning.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23474158 - 07/25/16 12:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I definitely think that psychedelics could help you, but I think you're going to need to do a lot more work than just taking a drug and hoping for the best.




+1

i have exactly the same issue like as Hyper.
I thought that by just taking shrooms it would help me solve all my problems.
But It is not the case. They only showed me the source of my fear/anxiety but i have to resolve it myself.
It is getting better.


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Re: Which psychedelic is best for controlling fear? [Re: Bozko]
    #23474187 - 07/25/16 12:42 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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For me, LSD and psilocybin have invoked fear, but not in a bad way necessarily. But I believe conventional wisdom is that MDMA and probably to a lesser degree mescaline are more "therapeutic".

I find mescaline serene.
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yeah mescaline is the most forgiving IME very easy going, but everyone knows with these substances that everything is dosage related too much of any of these drugs can result in some Earth-shattering experiences. as We also know Set & Setting also play huge role with the way your trip is going to play out.:strokebeard:


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